let's get more now from michael stephens. he is a researcher at the royal united services institute. welcome once again. >> hi. >> and thank you for coming in to speak to us. this is unpress debited, isn't it? iran acknowledging that chemical weapons have been used and also russia weighing in saying the syrian government should allow u.n. inspectors to decide if that alleged attack near damascus is the tide changing. >> well, i think it is very obvious that there were some chemical agents used. if you look at iranian, they are very sensitive to the chemical issue. and eit would not suit them to sit silent, when they know this amount of deaths had happened. but obviously the russians and the iranians are speaking with one voice on this particular usage of weapons. they confirm it, it is not a debate. the question is the culpability. now the iranians are not going to sit there and start fingering a shad as the person. and the russians will call for the u.n. inspectors to go in. at that point, at least they can fid with the mand

michael: i don't know, you tell me. >> steve king. here steve king. not stepheng the author, because he understands it very well because he is very descriptive in all those flasher books he wrote. but he, that guy, he's ridiculous. >> michael: he is, also most likely to clear a press conference. >> absolutely. >> michael: eight people at his thousands of, you know, capacity press conference. >> we were very excited to see that he would just keep piling it on toward the end. most likely to run for president 17 times despite not having any chance to win, donald trump. he wins that. he has less of a chance to win than donald duck, and we remember that donaldy daisy mini, mickey sex scandal from the 40s. >> michael: that's what stopped that donald from running. that's all, better chance of. >> better chance to win. also donald-- >> michael: i had a vowel not--w of not putting donald trump once on this show. >> sorry. >> michael: we almost made it, and now you ruined it. >> he gets two, of course, best hair. i had to get that in there. >> michael: really? the best hai

>> you know, michael, i'm holding up a photo of our son, harrison stephen kowiak.nestly when harrison went to lenore rrine university, harrison said i'm thinking about pledging to beta kai fraternity. we said why, he said to experience the full university experience. if we had known what he would go through we would not have let our son go through. the timing of your program is spot on with school right around the corner and hell week coming uup in november, i'm here for al the hazing victims and for families across america to let them know that hazing is still going on. sadly after we lost our son to hazing so many more deaths have happened. there are individuals who have gone through hazing, and sadly do not have the physical capability to walk around on their own because they were beaten or because they had endured this hazing. >> michael: yes, and reporting of it is--you're a pledge, and you're trying to get into a club, so reporting it and being a leaker and whistle blower about this is an intimidating idea. tell me why you reached out to representative freder

stephen himself why he really made it. looks like he was having fun right there. >> there is a good backstory to it. >>> also ahead, the mother of michael two oldest children, with dramatic testimony about the superstar's biggest fears. and who she says was to blame for his drug use. >>> and the woman who came face-to-face with her ex who tried to kill her. and her new life now with the first responder who rescued her. >> this is an incredible story. >>> also, dan abrams had the exclusive interview with tameka raymond, usher's ex-wife. it got so much reaction from our viewers. we'll show much more of it today. and she's going to reveal why she believes she lost custody of her children. >>> but we begin this morning with that emotional testimony in the michael jackson wrongful death suit. debbie rowe, the mother of michael's two oldest children, was very emotional, giving insight into her life with michael and her struggle to keep him off drugs. abc's abbie boudreau is covering it all for us in los angeles. good morning to you, abbie. >> reporter: good morning, lara. debbie rowe tearfully took the witness stand wednesday, painting a pict

michael steele discusses his party's stance on issues including syria , health care, immigration, and calls to impeach president obama. security issues. the man-to-man loss, state and federal governments use. our guest is stephen sigell, professor george mason university law school. washington journal is live every morning a 7:00 eastern on c-span. >> our special book tv program and continues. he talks about his book high price, and our scientists journey of self discovery that challenges every thing you know about drugs in society. over the next hour he is interviewed by fox news contributor juan williams. >> host: welcome to "after words." our guest, carl hart. his book "high price: a neuroscientist's journey of self-discovery that challenges everything you know about drugs and society". a member of the national advisory council on drug abuse. also an associate professor of psychology and psychiatry at columbia diversity. he's a board member of the college on problems of drug dependency and has conducted 22 years of research and narrow psychopharmacology. the science of drug addiction. welcome to the "after words." >> guest: thank you for having me. >> host: a fascinating book. it is your personal story as w

stephen, frank, thanks to you both. >> thank you. i want to talk to you about dell. we haven't hit on that the way we had the news earlier today, their shipments are down. did michaelany? >> absolutely now. >> absolutely not? >> no, this has been one of the most complete processes i've ever seen in terms of the price being tested, the process being tested, every opportunity for others to -- >> i think board has gone out of its what i to try and make sure that they were being separate from michael dell. >> absolutely. this special committee outperformed. >> were they really? >> again, how do you feel about that? >> look what shareholders want directors for the do is to use their rights to get more money. okay. so if you ask a shareholder would i rather have this extra right or would i rather have an incremental value uplift? most sure holders will take the value uplift, andrew t. rule we are talking about is a pretty technical part of the rule. you are still having the majority of the minority vote. it's what you do with non-votes. what happened was they changed the rule from shareholders who were not voting. those were counted as nos to count as yess. they would no

michael steele discusses his party's opinion on syria, healthcare, and president obama. discussn dorgan will cyber security issues and a recent book. then later, a look at eminent domain laws, by our guest stephenle -- steven eagle. now a conversation with former vice president dick cheney and liz cheney. >> well, we are delighted to be here tonight. i have watched the development of bill andization tony thompson. i probably would not have gotten ifcted to congress in 1978 they'll and tony had not helped me get cheyenne. not agree with the outcome, but it was all liberal. to haveeen a privilege the opportunity to spend time with my daughter. the finished up my time in white house, i decided to write a book, and it is nice to have your oldest child interested stories.ld war i notice she has the book in her lap. i have no idea what is planned. i am not sure where this is going. what it is all good, all good. i'm delighted to be here tonight and have the opportunity to spend the time with all of you, and with that, i will introduce my daughter, liz cheney, who is seeking political office, but this is not a political event, all right? not working. >> is there a way to turn off their? all right. i a