and michael stumo is the father of samya stumo, who tragically was killed in the ethiopian airlines crashonths after the indonesian flight. michael, i want to begin with you and i want to start off by sharing all of our condolences on the death of samya, who i had gotten a chance to meet when she was alive. beautiful young activist committed to social change. i wanted to give my condolences to your family. we had spoken with ralph nader, her grand uncle at the time, but i have not spoken to you and your wife. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for letting me be here. amy: michael, you just met with merrick garland, the attorney general. before we talk about this really stunning documentary, i wanted to ask about this latest news, what you're calling for. >> the criminal settlement, the deferred prosecution agreement with boeing in the latter days of the trump administration after attorney general barr had left, caused surprise, anger, and grief among all the crash families are connected in a what that group globally just erupted in anger. they never talked to us despite me and my wife

just this year the michael stumo the father of one of the victims on the ethiopian crash got a note from an engineer at the faa. who who said that recently managers have been saying, you know that they can expect not much to change as a result of those rules and that one of these managers called it, you know quote posing for the cameras. i've heard some of that too. although i've also been impressed somewhat with with some of the changes we see publicly. you know just just before the first crash our local center to maria cantwell, actually. helped write some clauses in in the faa reauthorization bill a month before the crash. increasing the amount of delegation that would be done to boeing but cantrell then reversed completely after the crashes and so last december she helped pass this reform act. and then since then the faa does seem to be getting tougher. they've delayed certification of the triple 7x quite a lot. it's going to take four years it took one year from first light to certification of the triple seven. in fact, 10 months. and now it's going to be 44 months for the for the n