and i will say i mean in jest is the host at the end of the show actually ends it with a really michael torpey finishes every episode by saying call your representatives right now and tell them you need a better solution than this. which is if you're we're at the point where it really this isn't really a game show to answer to answer about stuff so you know you're saying there's one point four trillion dollars in student loan debt in the united states spread out over forty four million borrowers with everybody. kind of owing about thirty two thirty three thousand ish. the around there is a sumo and that is now the second highest consumer debt category only behind mortgages but it's higher than both credit card and auto discretion this is yet rushing the very soul of america yes and. while it does i'm sorry to be a grown adult. to be in the situation if you don't understand why it's so hard to pay these things off just the numbers i gave you it's because there's a lot of shady practices in the student loan area and there's a lot of they out a lot of fees and a lot of interest to the point in th