wallace when he was running for president. i think it's complicated, but in the end, they make the journey. to me, that's what is interesting to watch the change over time. >> michaeln mississippi. you're on the air next. caller: good evening. two months ago marked the carter's involvement in the 30th anniversary of the habitat for humanity. i was wanted to know how did they become involved in the organization initially? >> well, habitat, as you may know, was founded in georgia and it's only seven miles from plains. the people who founded habitat were friends of the carters and the carters really liked the idea. so, what they agreed to in the early years was that their name could be used for the organization for fundraising and things like that and then they spent one week a year working habitat projects. these are not photo ops. they go out and they're quite good with tools. they go back with habitat and they spend 51 weeks a year working at the center but they made a major contribution to habitat. >> before we get into the white house we have to add one more person to the story and that's the birth of amy carter born in 1967 so the carters arrived at the white ho