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that interview tomorrow on "poir lunwer lunch" 1:00 brian will be on "closing bell" tomorrow with michael wirth bob dudley write all of that down that's a deep tease. >> new ceo >> let's bring in bill smeed and ian weiner are you going to buy shares of saudi aramco when it ipos? >> i'm not going to buy shares mostly because i have no idea exactly what the numbers are, exactly what things look like. i know it's a country that just jailed a bunch of people that had a lot of mope. so any time i see things like that, i tend to question whether or not i really need to be involved i'd rather try to play stuff that i think i know. i have a hard enough time making money in the stuff i think i know so i'll try to avoid is that one >> all that focus on rule of law. what do you think, bill? >> the oil market is now in its second big rally after the peak of $145 a barrel in 08 so, this is the second bear market rally and we're completely convinced it's a bear market rally because virtually no one on cnbc calls it a bear market rally michelle, you and bill remember really well in '09 and '10, '11, every com