demo and michael wolff -- dan loeb and michael wolff -- he said, what you need is a tech company like yahoo!. the product isn't necessarily like a product for it -- which is a thing that comes off of a -- off of an sme line. you need a technical leader, someone who has an understanding of how products are made. that is how places like amazon or google or facebook or other companies. they need to go find someone like a larry page or mark zuckerberg, someone who understands what products have a native understanding of the web in a way that yahoo!'s prior ceo has not. it was a pretty all-star list. at the top of the list was marissa mayer, the executive from google. gmail, google maps, obviously google search, is that people use every day. google products need to be something you use as often as your toothbrush. it is difficult to come up with a product used that much. meyer was instrumental in making it pass that test. that was top of the list. they hired a recruiter who reached out to her. they were stunned to learn that meyer was interested in the job because loeb successfully turned

media expert michael wolff says don't expect it to happen any time soon. in his new book it's called "television is the new television." he joins us now to explain why tv is still king. and michael, thanks for being here this morning. >> becky, thank you for having me. and in fact, it is that -- it's not that we're just waiting for television to die at some further point, but i think television is the disrupter of digital media. >> which is so unusual. it's what the opposite of what every other pundit is thinking right thousannow. tell us how you got to that conclusion. i love your theory. >> it's literally just looking at television and our behavior around it and realizing this is what we do. we watch television. we watch more television now than ever before. >> are you talking about even when we watch it on our computer screens? >> absolutely. i'm drawing a distinction between television as a distribution channel and television as a business model. so this is television as a business model. literally it's the programming made by the television industry wh

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michael wolff, thanks for being here. >> thank you for having me. television is the new television.in. how is that true? >> what do you do all day? what are we doing now? what does everybody -- i think i can fairly say everybody watching now how do they spend most of their -- a good part of their day? certainly more time than they do on the internet. they watch television. i think you can go further. what are the most cultural moments in this day and age? it's watching television whether mad men game of thrones, or whatever. television is this centerpiece of our lives. now, the interesting thing is that we have been told for rather a long time now that that isn't true that it isn't true and that it would be ever less true that the internet social media mobile applications, this was the future, this was media, this was transforming how we thought about media and how we thought about ourselves. i thought to myself, well think a minute, is this really true? i think it turns out not to be true on an actual, practical basis. we watch television. but on the other side it turns -- it's not

his name was michael wolff, who really led the search for the ceo, he told andreessen told these twoat you need is when you have a tech company like yahoo!, the product isn't necessarily like a product for a car company which is just, you know, a thing that comes off an assembly line. the thing that you make is innovation, and you really need a technical leader someone who has an understanding of how products are made in this environment, and that's how places like amazon and google and facebook are such great companies and apple, for example, as well. and so wolfe and loeb got it in their head was that what they needed was someone like larry page or mark zuckerberg, someone who has a real, like, native understanding of the web in a way that in a way that yahoo!'s prior ceos did not and that, you know, on their list -- and it was a pretty all-star list -- but on their list was marissa mayer who's this famous executive from google who had been instrumental in launching many of google's products over the years gmail, google maps google search, thicks people -- things people use every d

, your president, cornell brookes, i want to thank your governor tom wolff who was outstanding work and who's here. the mayor michaela great friend and ally. governor dan malloy of connecticut is here today. and some outstanding members of congress bhorwho are here. thank you to all of you for your love support. but most importantly for the work that you are doing in your communities all across the country every single day. it is not always received with a lot of fanfare. sometimes it is lonely work. sometimes it is hard work. sometimes it is frustrating work. but it is necessary work. and it builds on a tradition of this organization that reshaped the nation. for 106 years the naacp has worked to close the gaps between the words of our found inging, that we are all created equal. and by our creator endowed with certain unalienable rights. trying to match those words with the realities we live each and every day. in your first century this organization stood up to lynching and jim crowe and segregation. helped to shepherd a civil rights act and a voting rights act. i would not be here and so many others would not be