and michael zeldin, former federal prosecutor.d in this decision is it's essentially congress's role to decide whether the 14th amendment applies and whether somebody should or shouldn't be eligible on a federal ballot or for a federal position. so could congress later decide this decision on whether the 14th amendment applies to trump? >> absolutely. and they would do it according to this decision today through what they would call self-executing legislation. i'm sorry, not self-executing, remedial legislation that congress would pass legislation to basically enact section 3 of the 14th amendment. you may recall, ana, and i think it's lost on a lot of folks, that shortly after january 6th there was a push among congressional democrats to do exactly that, to pass a piece of legislation through the house first and then potentially through the senate that would disqualify donald trump under section 3. it never really caught fire in large part because folks felt that, a, the impeachment process would wrap itself up, right? and so the

nick joining me to talk more about this case and other trump legal matters is michael zeldin. he is a former federal prosecutor. so michael, do you think these attorneys for trump's co-defendants made the case that fani willis should be disqualified from this election subversion case? >> it's a great question and nic set it up perfectly to say, will the judge require an actual conflict or the appearance of a conflict if he's going to fall on the it's an appearance of a conflict conflict standard than i think they may have made their case for disqualification. if it's an actual conflict, i think that the evidence is still a bit soft on whether there was financial gain sufficient to say that fani willis's judgment or impartiality was compromised? >> yeah. and two-part question for you because obviously this is happening in an election year. this is happening not just in the state of georgia, but also in some ways, the court of public opinion, as far as confidence and what comes out of out of this case, if the judge allows willis to remain on the case from legal standpoint, do you

joining me right now to talk more about all of this, is michael zeldin. he is a former federal prosecutor, also with me as jeffrey jacoby of it's a white-collar criminal attorney and an adjunct law professor at american university. and we know you all are good friends too. >> a great to have both of you >> all right. so michael o'leary, begin with you as a former federal prosecutor and someone who worked at the doj is the department of justice, partly to blame for the lack of a trump trial potentially ahead of the election because doj waited too long to charge him or have trump's attorneys effectively found ways to delay things >> maybe fred a little of both in a big case like this, you normally work your way up from the bottom and i think they did that meticulously and when they brought the indictment says shifts said there was plenty of time. who are this case to go to trial? the problem was that the courts have taken a long time to resolve the principal issue of immunity. it's now pending before the court. argument is on april 25th. >> if the for it re