. >> rose: michaelangelo was a celebrity. (laughs) >> yeah, absolutely.ed under that at the same time. i think he also maintained his integrity as he did his work and so he was blind in many ways. he both... look, he lived off much of it, julius ii was his patron but at the same time i think he put his head down and did his work as best he could and realized that it was his love of sculpture that would drive him every single day. and i think that's what billie is saying most of us do. this issue of architecture will come and go but it's... we're saying that the light shines and the light burns and then the light turns off but we keep on going. >> rose: there's a magic here between the two of you, you know that, because you spend so much time together. yet there's a sense of wonder about each other from each other that really is... it makes someone like me who is in love with love and the idea of... even the thing you saw me do, the relationship between those two people, i'm just fascinated by that. and in the presence of the two of you it's like this is m