have to ask michael cohen.es tv? robert mueller. because today on a tip from mueller, the fbi raided cohen's office, seizing records related to several tops including payments to a pornographic film actress. >> stephen colbert gets tonight's last word. stormy daniels' lawyer will respond to the news that stormy daniels is cooperating with federal investigators. michael avenatti is in "the 11th hour" with brian williams, and that starts now. >>> breaking tonight, is the president starting to make his public case to fire robert mueller? the white house press secretary claims for the very first time today that the president has mueller? the white house press secretary claims for the very first time today that the president has been advised that he has the authority to do so. also breaking tonight, a new york times reveals that donald trump wanted mueller out back in december. it's the second time that we know of that the president sought to shut down the investigation. one of the reporters who proek that sto -- br

michael's my attorney and you have to ask michael. >> you'll have to ask michael cohen. well, it sounds like the fbi and the justice department got that message loud and clear. steven ryan, a lawyer representing michael cohen today issued a written statement saying, quote, today the u.s. attorney's office for the southern district of new york executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, michael cohen and his clients. i have been advised by federal prosecutors that the new york action is in part a referral by the office of special counsel rachel maddow. the decision by the u.s. attorney's office in new york to conduct their investigation using search warrants is completely inappropriate and unnecessary. it resulted in the seizure of protected attorney client communications between an attorney and his clients. these are also wrong because mr. cohen has cooperated with all governmental entities, including providing documents to the congress and sitting for depositions under oath. nbc has confirmed something reported by the

michael avenatti has once again legally corn erred donald trump and michael cohen and forced michael cohen to make a dramatic admission tonight. the first big admission michael avenatti legally forced out of donald trump is that donald trump is, indeed, david dennison, the president of the united states actually used the alias david dennison. when president trump's lawyer first went into federal court in los angeles to move the stormy daniels case out of state court, that was the first time that the president officially admitted in a court filing that he is david dennison, the name that appears in a confidentiality agreement with stormy daniels. that was a huge thing for the president of the united states to formally admit that he used an alias in a confidentiality agreement with an actress and director who calls herself a porn star. and he was forced to admit that because of the legal steps taken by michael avenatti on behalf of stormy daniels and then because michael avenatti continued to press his case in court and in the court of public opinion, michael avenatti forced donald tru

michael says he may have dozed off.n he went back inside the house sometime after 2:00 a.m., there was kathleen at the bottom of the stairs. a ghastly sight. >> and i saw her lying in the back staircase. her feet out. and there was blood. there was just blood everywhere. >> my wife's had an accident. she's still breathing. >> what kind of accident? >> she fell down the stairs. >> reporter: was she breathing? >> she was at the time. >> reporter: she was? >> yeah. >> is she conscious? >> what? >> is she conscious? >> no, she's not conscious. >> i knew she was dying. i mean, i'd seen enough of that in vietnam. i mean, i knew she was dying. >> please, get somebody here right away. please! >> okay, somebody's dispatching the ambulance. >> send the ems right away, right away, right away. called them again. how -- but apparently it's only, like, two minutes later. but it seemed like forever. >> reporter: a long few minutes, but nothing compared to the many, many years of questions that would follow. what had happened on that b

michael cohen -- sean hannity says of michael cohen, we have been friend a long time. i have sought legal advice from michael. possibly the shortest two sentences sean hannity has ever uttered. katy phthang. several questions. first is, does the fact that michael cohen represented three people in 2017, one of which is sean hannity, is that significant? >> other than it being mind blowing, and unexpected. i mean, the lawyers for cohen were trying to fight the disclosure pretty harshly in court with the judge. and the judge made a decision right there on the bench to say you have got to disclose it now. she astute autoly said ali that the legal standard was not meant to hide the identity of that client. so she said disclose it. so they did. now it makes you wonder why, right? why would sean hannity need legal advice from the fixer known as michael cohen, especially knowing what he has done for not only donald trump but for elliot bradentony. >> tom, the judge didn't cause michael cohen to explain why he had sean hannity as client? >> no. i mean, there was no -- and micha

i know that you know michael and you like michael. and again there is such a disconnect from what we see on tv and for people who know michael cohen personally. most people really like the guy in person. talk about that story and what could only be called an abusive professional relationship. >> what i've seen up close over the last 11 years with michael -- i've not seen any of that play out. clearly, when you have a guy like trump and you are working by his side, probably whether you're his kids or michael or anybody else, there are going to be those moments, that's the guy you're working for, this is not a sweet, loving, nurturing guy to any of his employees. i do know michael loved donald and in some twisted way, he does. he was affected when he wasn't brought to washington. donald said look, i need you watching the store. i need you watching the kids, kind of that's where i need you. and michael understood that and took that at face value. i think personally he was disappointed. he, you know i don't think he necessarily would come

michael knows real estate. >> despite knowing michael cohen for years and the raid on michael cohen's office and home he never disclosed a connection with the president's attorney. that connection to cohen remained murky until to court hearing where hannity was revealed to be cohen's third client. then "the guardian" published a bombshell. >> new tonight sean hannity trying to fight back after a report saying he's related to a series of shell companies to buy nearly 900 homes across the country. >> dozens of the properties were purchased in 2013 at a discount caused by foreclosures. at the time hannity repeatedly criticized former president barack obama about foreclosure rate. >> and the dream of owning your own home has been made a nightmare under obama for many americans. >> some of hannity's properties were reportedly paid for with mortgages backed by housing and development something he didn't disclose when he had ben carson on his show in 2017. with each passing day the trump orbit grows larger. stormy daniels, karen mcdougal, keith davidson, elliott broidy, and now sean hannity

>> no. >> why did michael cohen make it? >> you'll have to ask michael cohen. michael's my attorney and you have to ask michael. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> i don't know. >> did you have ever set up -- >> i'm sorry i couldn't hear your response earlier about scott pruitt. >> about who? >> the president answers three quick questions about stormy daniels before he finds his way back to the safer grounds of refusing to answer any more questions about stormy daniels. to question one he says no, i didn't know michael cohen made a deal with stormy daniels, question two, why did he make the payment, i don't know the president says you have to ask michael question. to question three, do you know where he got the money to make the payment? the president says, i don't know. imagine, imagine how stunned donald trump was by that first stormy daniels question. so stunned that he gave a one word answered. so flattened by it that he didn't overwhelm the question with a barrage of words and immediately change the subject. he was so stunned th

let's listin. >> so i've known michael a long, long time and let me be clear to the media, michael never represented me in any matter, i never retained him in the traditional sense as retaining a lawyer, i never received an invoice from michael, i never paid legal fees to michael. but i have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which i wanted his input and perspective. and i assume that those conversations were attorney-client confidential. but -- and the other thing i need to point out to the media that is apparently going insane over this, not one of any issue i dealt with michael cohen on ever, ever involved a matter between me and any third party. >> so daniel goldman has just been seated. he joins our chorus of smart voices and former u.s. attorney. and in the words of sean hannity, this is no big deal and i called him up for advice, why were they so funny about disclosing his name. >> because hannity didn't want to be revealed he is the client and now turning into a whole side show circus. about what is interesting about what he said is that he's

michael's my attorney, and you'll have to ask michael. >> michael avenatti wasn't the only lawyer who bounced. in a letter delivered to federal judge wood today just about the hearing of the evidence of michael cohen, federal prosecutors quoted donald trump on "fox & friends" this morning as supporting the prosecutor's claim that there is very little material in what they seized from michael cohen that is protected by michael cohen's attorney/client privilege with donald trump. the letter says, quote, president trump reportedly said on cable television this morning that cohen performances a tiny, tiny little fraction of his overall legal work. in the hearing today in the cohen case with the agreement of both sides the judge appointed a special master, a referee, who will help decide what evidence, if any, is protected by attorney/client privilege. the master is barbara jones who was chosen for her judgeship -- she has been in a private practice the last five years. and prior to her career as a judge, she was an assistant u.s. attorney and worked under republicans and democrats. michae

maybe inside track conversations with michael cohen perhaps already on tape as we heard because michaelpe his conversations evidencing the fact that trump knew about payments made. trump knew that there were going to be payments made by michael cohen to circumstance up vent campaign finance laws. if davidson has that type of tell-all information than davidson is going to be a key witness in that southern district of new york investigation and criminal indictment which we all expect to come against michael cohen. >> a federal judge has told the lawyers for michael cohen he needs to file a fifth amendment cla declaration. >> it's due by next week, wednesday. the judge said i will not rule on your motion to stay mr. coen and mr. trump until i have that declaration. once you invoke fifth amendment all bets are off. i can ask you questions during your deposition, and each time, if you can invoek your fifth amendment right against self incrime nays that could be used against new a trial. meaning i could get up in front of a judge and a jury and say if you invoked your fifth amendment right yo

that is something that michael cohen apparently did very well. >> before michael cohen became entangled in a presidential scandal, he was the kid from the suburbs who revered donald trump. >> michael was drawn to him, his personality, his brashness, his approach to life. >> i think they both defined they wi themselves by what they wear, drive, what they can buy and sell. >> will that admiration and loyalty be enough to protect the president? >> i just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, good man. >> attorney client privilege is not a magic wind. if he is helping you commit a crime. >> if he flips, you are in trouble. >> he said he would take a bullet for the president. when he said it, he sounded like he meant it. >>> hello. welcome to a special edition of "headliners." in a political landscape full of colorful characters michael cohen stands out. he leapt to the front page with plot twists worthy of a legal thriller. how did he get here? >> breaking news. it's a bombshell. >> tonight, a dramatic fbi raid at the new york office and hotel room of michae

i never received an invoice from michael. i never paid legal fees to michael. but i have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which i wanted his input and perspective. >> jill wine-banks if what sean hannity just said was true, was he a client of michael cohen's? >> it's really a side show to debate whether he was or wasn't a client, because the only relevance is if there is a document that has some legal advice that he gave -- that michael cohen gave to sean hannity whether that would be attorney/client privilege. otherwise it doesn't matter. normally you wouldn't even reveal the name of your client, the fact that you represent someone is part of attorney/client privilege. so the fact it's public is already a violation of attorney-client privilege although under these circumstances it was inevitable. he was probably a client in the sense he might have given him $10 to get advice under attorney/client. that would create it, it's an unusual circumstance but that would make him enough of a client for attorney/client privilege. u

i never received an invoice from michael. i never paid legal fees to michael. but i have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which i wanted his input and perspective. >> jeffrey toobin, your response? >> well, there seems to be some disagreement between michael cohen and sean hannity about whether they ever had a legal relationship. and that is potentially significant because if sean hannity is telling the truth there, then their conversations would not be privileged. and any relationship between them would not be privileged. certainly if sean hannity did retain michael cohen he should have disclosed that because he's been a big advocate of michael cohen on his television and radio show. that is a matter of journalistic ethics and not a legal issue. but there does seem to be a difference of opinion here about whether there ever was an attorney-client relationship between the two of them. >> and laura, one of the things that sean hannity made clear to say was that michael cohen never represented him with any third party matter

michael: he would. steve: let's look at this, which is a familiar theme in the 21st century, throwing the bums out. the hoped for puck was that people of the democratic whoy and republican party had been treated to bad policies that puck didn't like would be shifted -- had been attributed to bad policies that puck didn't like would be shifted. speaker,plain why the in this case, mr. reid, became such a target. time the speaker of the house decided who would be on the committee's. this is an illustration of the fact that speaker reid runs the congress, but he is in fact the congress. were a whole series of speakers that were very powerful. steve: i mentioned the budget deficit, because that became an issue in 1897. billion debt growing today. michael: in 1892, the democrats run -- democrats won. in 96.ublicans came back the terrorist did not have the effect they wanted -- the tariff did not have the effect they wanted. all of a sudden congress is faced with a huge deficit. the deficit was $44 million, ma

including the fbi raid on michael cohen last week, without ever disclosing that michael cohen is his lawyer. again, don't even ask me. i have no idea. this is like, every day you get up, take a shower, get dressed, you go out to the driveway to start the car. every day's the same, you do this every day of your life except today you got in the car, you put the key into the -- to start the engine -- you put the key into the dashboard, you went to turn it to start the engine like you do every day, and today this time the engine didn't start and instead terrifying circus music started playing and the hood flew up and clowns and monkeys and elephants flew out instead. like, what? it's who? you know, sure, go ahead, make sense of that, why don't you. the news has gone weird. when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. but the law is still pretty orderly. and i have to tell you, we just got the transcript of what happened in this insane court hearing today. there's no cameras. there's no recordings of what happens in federal court. but we've got the transcript here. and in a way it's sor

michael is my attorney. >> you'll have to ask michael. it's c-o-h-e-n. call michael. when it comes to questions about the president's alleged relationship with adult film actress stormy daniels and the $130,000 payment michael cohen says he made to her right before the election, the white house response, the president's response personally has been to tell reporters they need to talk to the president's lawyer, call michael cohen. we're not answering, ask him. well, today as cohen's office and hotel room were raided by the fbi, carol leonnig, tom hamburger, and devlin barrett at the "washington post" were first to report that what the fbi did today, seize records related to that payment to stormy daniels, what the fbi was after appears to be much broader than that. "michael cohen, the long-time attorney of president trump, is under federal investigation for possible bank fraud, wire fraud, and campaign finance violations. fbi agents today raided cohen's manhattan office home and hotel room as part of the investigation, seizing records about cohen's clients and personal

michael is my attorney. you'll have to ask michael. >> reporter: so certainly downplaying the relationship today, john. of course, now this raises a fresh new set of questions including that the president, as he said this morning, said michael cohen only did a tiny bit of business for him. it raises questions about what information and what conversations they this is truly privileged, of course. we know that is something that is going on now after the fbi agents raided michael cohen's home, office and hotel and got a whole bunch of information. now we're going to see how that complicates this and what the president said today. >> kaitlan collins at the white house, thank you for explaining that. >>> joining me now, ileana johnson, two separate things here, all within that one piece of sound we just heard. on the one hand, a slight contradiction or movement on what michael cohen's relationship was vis-a-vis stormy daniels and the case there and the fact he was representing the president on that case. on the o

i never received an invoice from michael. i never paid legal fees to michael. but, i have occasionally have had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which i wanted his input and perspective. and i assume that those conversations were attorney client confidential. now regards of the exact nature of their relationship, even if it is as hannity states almost exclusive about real estate. >> it is a fox news alert. president trump's long-term attorney michael cohen just had his office, his home and hotel room he was staying in was raided by the fbi. now a run away train careening off the tracks. >> no mention of disclosure. shaean hannity talks about it o his legal show. >> this opens up the area where it seems no limit at all into the fishing expedition that mueller is now engaged in and if he has access, i can only imagine where that is going to lead. >> he can definitely imagine at least one place, his own name. not disclosing a business or relationship with someone you report on and has had on as your guest, that doesn't sound fair nor balance.

michael rothfeld has written, boss, i michigan yss you so muc exile of michael cohen. we spoke earlier tonight. >> this piece is fascinating. the relationship between donald trump as president and donald trump as a citizen and michael cohen, it's certainly i guess complicated would be the easiest way to explain it. the president seems to have insulted michael cohen for years, publicly and privately. >> right. we reported that back in 2012 when michael cohen's son was having his bar mitzvah, trump said he was going to come and didn't show up. everyone was waiting for him, they even delayed the blessings. cohen was calling him and asking him to come up and trump gives an insulting speech like michael was begging me to come here, he wanted me to come but you know him, he never lets up. >> and what -- i mean it does seem to -- the relationship basically seems very one-sided. i mean i don't quite understand michael cohen's motivation for -- i mean what does he need from donald trump? i don't know -- one can't get in somebody else's head. but it seems like with donald trump,

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legal fees to michael. but i have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which i wanted his input and perspective. and i assume that those conversations were attorney/client confidential. >> and he also tweeted that the conversations he said, quote, were exclusively about real estate. so what was the reaction to that explanation from sean hannity that in all of the legal discussions there was no payment, no legal fees, but he did assume they were discussing real estate. >> reporter: so the attorneys for michael cohen did not specify as to really why they didn't want to release his name. they did say that there was concern about whether some embarrassment issues and they consulted with this client who we learn is sean hannity and spoke with him over the weekend. he did not want his name revealed in connection to the search warrant. and it seemed they were more arguing that this was going to be embarrassing for sean hannity over any privileges because the judge kept saying, yo

which michael cohen obviously is knee deep in.ording to sources who gloria and others are talking to, the stormy daniels -- either information about it or how the money got to her and perhaps others were part of this dragnet. so the question is how is this -- what does this mean for not just the mueller investigation, but for perhaps other investigations that we didn't know about or didn't even occur until mueller found whatever it was that allowed the -- or encouraged the judge and others to do this raid. >> authorized the raid. >> everybody stick around. there is more we're following on the breaking news. we'll have much more on the target of today's fbi raid. the man known as the president's fixer. psoriasis does that. it was tough getting out there on stage. i wanted to be clear. i wanted it to last. so i kept on fighting. i found something that worked. and keeps on working. now? they see me. see me. see if cosentyx could make a difference for you- cosentyx is proven to help people with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... .

what michael says. >> yeah. look, lawrence, the one heartening thing about this is jay goldberg represents the notion at some point in his life, donald trump hired actual lawyers who had actual brains in their heads and could make basic legal and strategic assumptions before hiring clowns like michael cohen who don't qualify as lawyers in any meaningful way. jay goldberg is making the obvious observation. it's the same observation that michael avenatti, who i've been spending a lot of time with this week, i've been with him for the last three days, he's convinced, as goldberg is, that michael cohen who donald trump did not take him to washington d.c. when michael cohen wanted to go, that michael cohen, who's going to be looking at significant jail time in michael avenatti's view and apparently in goldberg's view, that this man is going to stare down jail time and stand up for donald trump and say i'm going to go to prison rather than roll over on donald trump who has not treated me particularly well, has not sto

ago and said michael cohen is my lawyer. the highest level of justice has just signed off on an fbi announced raid on the president's personal lawyer -- >> why was it -- we don't know everything. >> we don't know. >> but it doesn't stop from opining in the thousands -- >> i'm saying that i suspect -- to say this is not a big deal strikes me -- >> i do want josh as a former special agent, you are saying it is not true that the no-knock midnight raids are only done on bad guy drug dealers with guns. go ahead. >> that is right. and this isn't any disrespect for mr. urban, points for creativity. i understand the position he's in. but fur a law enforcement officer and focusing on a crime it doesn't involve those that are dangerous but those destroying evidence but the fact is the point that was made has nothing to do with what i just said a moment ago. >> josh -- normal for the fbi -- >> -- and the department of just. >> it is normal for the fbi to no knock and guns drawn on a matter like mr. manafort? that is a normal procedure.

client. >> i have known michael a long, long time and let me be very clear to the media, michael never represented me in any matter. i never retained him in the traditional sense as retaining a lawyer. i never received an invoice from michael. i never paid legal fees to michael but i have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which i wanted his input and perspective. i assumed that those conversations were attorney/client confidential. >> he seems to be saying i am not really a client of cohen. now regardless of the exact nature of their attorney/client relationship even if it is as hannity says on twitter exclusively about real estate. >> hannity reported as if he had no connection to the story on fox news. >> this is a fox news alert, michael cohen just had his office and home and hotel that he was staying in raided by the fbi early morning. what it means that mueller's witch huaunt investigation is a run away train without clear tracks. >> oh yeah this guy also represented me, no mention of that and he passes along legal advices. sean hannity also t

pardon michael cohen for what? pardons are granted for specific crimes, usually specific crimes that the person has been convicted of. that's what president trump did in his practice pardon of sheriff joe arpaio who had been convicted on the federal charge of contempt of court. that's what president trump did in his spring training pardon of scooter libby who was convicted of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators while working in the bush/cheney white house. but michael cohen hasn't been convicted of anything. hasn't even been charged with anything. so pardon him for what? president trump issued the scooter libby patterned days after michael cohen and president trump were shocked by the fbi raid on michael cohen's home, his office, his hotel room, and his safety deposit box in manhattan. several observers have noted that the sudden patterned of scooter libby in the same week as the michael cohen raid was probably intended to show michael cohen how ready the president is to use his patterned power for hi

cohen, the office of michael cohen, and the hotel room occupied by michael cohen. and since the evidence at issue in today's court proceeding overlaps with evidence sought by stormy daniels' lawsuit, the judge invited stormy daniels' lawyer, michael avenatti to be present in court today. and he is present here at the last word tonight. this time, when michael avenatti went to court, he brought stormy daniels with him. >> for years mr. cohen has contacted like he is above the law, he has considered himself -- referred to himself as mr. trump's fixer. he's played by a different set of rules or should we say no rules at all. he has never thought that the little man, or especially women, even more women like me, matter. that ends now. my attorney and i are committed to making sure that everyone finds out the truth and the facts of what happened, and i give my word that we will not rest until that happens. >> leading off our discussion now, michael avenatti, the attorney for stormy daniels, and jill wine-banks former assistant watergate special prosecutor and msnbc cont

the president and michael cohen. mostly from michael cohen.ve or six weeks ago, joe, is that weapon sent a mental and the message was this. my turn. it's my turn. enough of the nonsense and the lies to the american people about what happened in connection with this payment. and we're going to continue to control the narrative and the microphone until somebody rips it from our hands. >> michael, i said during the republican primary to the republican candidates, and i have said to democrats now, that the only way beat donald trump is you say in his face, you smo smother him, keep on him, keep hitting him. i was critical, i have been critical from time to time, but as john and i were discussing last night, it seems that you have outplayed donald trump at his own game time and time again. so, i mean, there is the legal side of it, but when you're going after donald trump, obviously, there's also public relations is very important. and i will say, on this score, has anybody, have we seen anybody since donald trump who has become a public figure, 2

. >>> my first guest tonight michael avenatti, stormy daniels's lawyer, says that trump lawyer, michael cohen plans to take the fifth amendment in the lawsuit stormy daniels has brought against michael cohen and donald trump. and that is a huge turning point in the stormy daniels lawsuit. i mean huge. but there was a much more important legal turning point in the investigation of the president of the united states today. it has been a day of constantly cascading news about the special prosecutor's investigation of the president of the united states. today was the day the doorman speaks. the doorman. who says that he heard a rumor about donald trump fathering a child with a woman he had an affair with. today is the day that james comey speaks or his book begins to speak for the first time. excerpts leaking out and the "new york times" review is out and it says former fbi director james comey calls the trump presidency a forest fire. into that forest fire tonight a late breaking story from "the washington post" says that trump associate michael cohen has recorded many of his phone convers

or a different michael cohen. he had a passport. it's possible to have a second or third poassport. if you have his travel documents, financial records, you can answer the question which michael cohen it was who made that trip that was mentioned in the dossier. >> all right. so, let me -- you just stacked like three plates on top of each other. let me try to unpack them for my little brain. there have been a whole bunch of people whose crime for the crimes that they've been charged with and they pleaded guilty to was lying to the fbi. are you suggesting that it's possible that he simply got caught lying? and because it's outside the purview of russian collusion, that that maybe was referred to the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district to be dealt with as a separate case? >> that's possibly a fourth plate, nicolle. >> fourth plate. >> in the process of doing these interviews that there may be a separate investigation here by the fbi into michael cohen who is involved in a bunch of interesting transactions

michael is my attorney, and you'll have to ask michael. >> you'll have to ask michael. those words were heard around the world, and certainly in the legal community last night. michael cohen has of course been fielding these questions about stormy daniels because he facilitated this payment. but also bob mueller asking questions about this. a trump associate involved in business with the trump organization and oversees business deals is now caught up in this. and the questions focus on interactions involving, yes, michael cohen. this report comes, of course, after "the washington post" has already documented that mueller was probing cohen's negotiations for a potential trump tower building in moscow. that building never built. but what exactly does bob mueller want to know about michael cohen, and how would cohen explain those preparations for any potential moscow deal? well, we know how he describes trump. >> the words the media should be using to describe mr. trump are "generous, compassionate, principled, empathetic, kind, humble, honest, and genuine." >> empathetic

i never received an invoice from michael. i never paid legal fees to michael. but i have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which i wanted his input and perspective. and i assume that those conversations were attorney/client confidential. >> so, wolf, it's not entirely clear. did not say the nature of the work that sean hannity and michael cohen were involved in but the fact is that the attorneys did say that sean hannity did not want his name associated with this case, he did not want his name out there but despite all that, the judge ordered it released. >> and in a subsequent tweet sean hannity said those conversations with michael cohen dealt almost exclusively about real estate. i'm sure we'll learn a lot more about this. amidst all of this, stormy daniels was at the hearing as well. what was she doing there? >> she came purely as a spectat spectator. michael avenatti floated this idea that she would appear and did just after 2:00 right before the hearing started. she sat in the back of the courtroom with her attorney.

how much trouble is michael cohen in? if you read the testimony the first sentence was a federal judge found probable cause to believe the premises and devices searched contained evidence and fruit and instructionality of conduct for which cohen is under criminal investigation. >> the answer is' whole lot of trouble. and as shimmon alluded to, some of the trouble that he's in is because of things that he has said and that the president has they are making their own case worse off for themselves. and in the court papers that were filed today, government mentioned this video from the president essentially telling reporters that he had no -- no information from michael cohen and there is nothing about this $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, that essentially he was not consulted about this. and so what -- the importance of that is that it is not core -- not covered by attorney/client privilege and that means michael cohen and his lawyers could not protect that information from the government's eyes. so i think they'll end up

>> michael cohen.nd don't forget, these payments were red-flagged, the payment to stormy daniels was red-flagged by the bank. and he has apparently set up llcs in a number of cases. i don't know if he did it in the karen mcdougal case. i think that is of interest to the banks. and also don't forget, we have the president on the record denying that he had had an affair. now, i don't know if there's nothing illegal about lying to the media, but you do have that out there. one more thing i want to add to what michael is saying is that i was told by a source, look, michael cohen has represented the president in dozens and dozens of legal cases over the years. not just stormy daniels and not just karen mcdougal, but a whole host of things, and that potentially opens up the president as well. >> julie, which raises the question whether there were other hush agreements that michael cohen worked out with other women over the years. >> well, it raises that question. it also raises a whole host of other question

and every time he opens his mouth about michael cohen, he causes more problems for michael cohen. it must have chilled michael cohen to say, those are my business dealings. >> everybody hold their thoughts for a moment. there is a lot more breaking news we're following, including, as you just saw, michael cohen. he's back in court right now. i have some live pictures from the federal courthouse in new york as this so-called special master has been named to review documents seized in the fbi. his hotel room, his safe deposit box, his electronic equipment, cell phones, computers, a whole bunch of stuff. plus a cabinet in chaos as the va secretary battles it out with scott pruitt. he directly contradicts what he said just a few weeks ago. >>> and credit president trump for bringing kim jong-un to the negotiating table. that's the message we're hearing today from seoul. . and the president and kim jong-un in a demilitarized zone. from the very beginning ... it was always our singular focus. to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. to fight cancer. and never lose sight of

cohen and i want to get to michael cohen. stormy daniels thing is kuf the way in which that seemed to have triggered the michael cohen story and now we are in the middle of this michael cohen story. over the course of this weak wu week what used to be a controversial position, what's happening with michael cohen in the southern district might be as much of a threat as the bob mueller investigation. that conventional wisdom is now firmly cemented, that it is now more threatening what's happening with michael cohen than the mueller investigation, all in the space of about a week. this "new york times" story talks about michael cohen. the headline is, michael cohen has said he would take a bullet for mr. trump, maybe not anymore. for years, mr. trump treated mr. cohen poorly with at least twice threats of being fired kooraccog to interviews with at least half a dozen people familiar with their relationship. rev, i want to ask you. being "the new yorker" you are, you probably know michael cohen. maybe he's not an intimate of your

her attorney, michael avenatti is already there and so is michael con, as well. dr.t me come back to you. i think joyce made a point here that's worth making. every day multiple times a day that these are not normal times in which we are living. >> by no stretch of the imagination. we're witnessing every day, craig -- every single day -- the executive branch, the presidency, diminished in some sort of way. here we are spending our time with stephanie clifford, with stormy daniels, kind of paying attention to the salacious dimensions of that story. and also trying to wrap our minds around perhaps a level of corruption we haven't seen in the modern era of this country. i still think that we have two things lurking in the background here. we have the michael wolf book which we kind of threw away for a while after that hullabaloo around his publication. he talked about michakchael cohs the fixer. it is not just stormy daniels. there are all sorts of ndas out there. there is the steel dossier. there is a reporting out there that michael cohen was in prague. the intrigue o

this ultimately going, michael? >> i think this is going to end very, very badly for michael cohen. but i think it's going the eneven worse for trump. that's my position. i think this has taken on a momentum that cannot be stopped. we pushed this boulder down the hill five or six weeks ago. a lot of people doubt us at the time. this is no stopping it now. >> badly how for the president? >> i think very badly. i think it could ultimately result in either his impeach men or resignation from the white house. >> michael avenatti thank you, i appreciate it. >>> when we come back, why all the accuracy about sean hannity? and just how dangerous is the michael cohen investigation for president trump? (male #1) it's a little something i've done every night since i was a kid, empty my pocket change into this old jar. it's never much, just what's left after i break a dollar. and i never thought i could get quality life insurance with my spare change. neither did i. until i saw a commercial for the colonial penn program. imagin

i'm not going to say michael is going to lie. i'm worried about michael. michael cohen got screwed the most i ever saw by anyone, by donald trump. and what i worry about is what michael's going to say when he's called in by someone like andrew wiseman about the banks. >> krystal, you have worked in politics. it is a nonpartisan fact that loyalty is prized in politics. the difference is whether you have ethical and legal lines around how you pursue loyalty. because there's also loyalty to the country. >> right. >> your view of these people and their view of loyalty -- you mentioned the bullet -- is michael cohen in a place where as the fbi goes through this material, as he's under this heat, his loyalty remains only to donald trump, not to his higher obligation as a lawyer or a citizen? >> well, up to this point, what we've seen is exclusive loyalty to donald trump. so if past is an indication of what we expect to continue to see, you know, that loyalty has been second to nothing else including claiming to pay his own personal funds to stormy daniels in the