then you had michelle brockman, who early on seemed really prepared for getting hit. she was ready for these attacks by tim. she seemed to get tired. frankly, at the end, i think she came up with a position on the debt ceiling. when she came up on the debt ceiling and said, we never should have raised it under any circumstances, that is a minority view even inside the house republican conference. that is not going to go over well with the business community. that makes it hard for her to take this leak from being a tea party favorite and making the leap to a possibility of becoming a mainstream republican candidate that the business community can get behind because they are acting like that answer. hindemith was able to stay on the side and above the fray. he took a couple of hits but did not fire back. again, he was more effective this afternoon against his hecklers than he was tonight. >> let's bring in the rest of the debate analysis team. we have ed schultz. thank you for joining us. we also have "washington post" columnist, eugene robinson and bloomberg view colu