michele goodwin joins us now.hancellor's professor at university of california, irvine school of law, founding director of the center for biotechnology and global health policy, and has written the book "policing the womb: invisible women and the criminalization of motherhood." professor goodwin, welcome back to democracnow! we appreciate you joining us again this week. can you start off by talking about why you chose to write that essay? >> amy, it's important that we all understand that the newspect of anti-abortion provisions includes an aspect that we would not have seen even five years ago. and that is that they make no exceptions for cases of rape or incest. now, these laws on their own are really qui chilling and horrific when we understand, just as a baseline, the importance of reproductive liberty and freedom and when we understand that a wom or girl is 14 times more likely to die by carrying a pregnancy to term than by an abortion in the united states. so that's just a baseline anyway. but then when we a

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also with us, michelle goodwin, professor of law at the university of california.bernard, let me begin with you, and of course, i don't want to go anywhere near patient privacy issues. what is it like for you to be in indiana with the windows suit closing there on the possibility of of abortion. but it's still possible. and to get a phone call from another state, like ohio, where you have a ten year old rape victim. she cannot get the services anymore in ohio. how does it feel on your end of that phone call? >> it's incredibly difficult, and at the same time, it's something that we feel very strongly about, that we need to provide this care for everybody. for every single person that we get a call about, in any state, all over the country. literally, people are working day and night to ensure that we have continued access to safe, legal abortion in every single state, for every single patient. >> you may soon be making some of those calls yourself. what do you expect to happen legally, in indiana in the future. >> the legislature has signaled that they are claiming

. >> michele goodwin as a professor of law at the university of irvine.is overturned, she published a piece in the new york times titled, i was raped by my father, and abortion saved my life. she joins me now. michelle, i want to hear from you and your academic expertise, but i also ask you, as a survivor, how are you prop processing what we are watching unfold in the case of this ten-year-old girl? >> you know, i think it's important that we not invest in the pornography of pain, but let's be clear that around the country, there are survivors who are men and women, and girls, boys, who've experienced histories of rape, including in the states of indiana and ohio, and religious organizations within families. and none of this should be a surprise to lawmakers. none of this should be a surprise to individuals who cover these stories and the media. they've been quite bronte. there had been investigations by the catholic church, by jewish organizations, so we know that child rape exists in the united states. it's been well reported on. they've been movies and

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michelle goodwin is professor of law at university of california, irvine, and has written extensivelynd the effects of criminalising it. professor goodwin, thank you very much for making the time for us. as we know, there are these states that have almost immediately brought in restrictions to abortion. is this a threat, or are prosecuted in the states fully prepared to start legal proceedings against women who seek out the procedure?- seek out the procedure? thank ou for seek out the procedure? thank you for having _ seek out the procedure? thank you for having me _ seek out the procedure? thank you for having me on _ seek out the procedure? thank you for having me on this - seek out the procedure? thank| you for having me on this show. it is more than a threat, it is a reality in many states, because we have only seen this. the profile has been black and brown women over the last 20, 30 years in the united states, but that has already laid the ground for what we will now see. interestingly enough, the type of policing and criminal evasion recently enrolled women who are pregnant, ma

michelle goodwin is professor of law at university of california, irvine and has written extensivelyt of legal proceedings against women seeking abortions: it is more than a threat. it is a reality in many states because we have already seen this. the profile has been black and brown women, over the last 20 or 30 years in the united states but that is already laid the grounds for what we will now see. interestingly enough, the type of policing and criminalisation previously involved women who are pregnant, many of whom wanted to maintain but were being prosecuted because they were not perfect and the pregnancy, threatened with arrest because they wanted a c—section or arrested because they attempted suicide while pregnant or fell down steps for pregnant or fell down steps for pregnant but now prosecutors who already see that as a president find it quite easy, i think, underthis president find it quite easy, i think, under this new regime, to go after women who are threatening to have an abortion i want to have an abortion or may want to leave and go to another state in order to termi

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my name is michelle goodwin, i am a professor at the university of california and a senior lecturer atarvard medical school. my comments today it will focus on the 13th and 14th amendment and the comments that have been shared go into greater detail across all of these periods. reproductive servitude and let was a critical part of the 13th and 14th amendment. if -- forced reproduction was clean. the overturning of roe v. wade reveals a supreme court rating of the amendments that abolished slavery, then guaranteed all people equal protection under the law. it leaves the erasure of black women from the constitution. mandated, forced, or me and say pregnancy actually contravene enumerated rights in the constitution. mainly the 13th amendment prohibition against involuntary servitude, and, protection of bodily autonomy. as well as the defense of privacy and freedom. the supreme court demonstrates the lack of opportunistic interpretation of this and the legal history, which ignores the 13th and 14th amendments. especially as related to black women's bodily autonomy, liberty, and privacy, wh

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michelle goodwin is also here. she is a professor of law at the university of california irvine.epublican congressman joe walsh is also with us. greetings to you all. so, i have to start with the breaking news we just heard about. police in akron, ohio, released the body cam footage of jayland walker being shot to death by officers. you can see in the video that appears to be a shot of the 25 year old's car as police were chasing him. you can't even count how many bullets were fired by the police officers. they are saying somewhat around 90 rounds. daniel, this really does come down to whether police responded in a way that they are trained to respond. what do you think? here >> i think, once again, it's another american tragedy. it's another tragedy of what we have been told, right, 90 rounds being let off for a traffic stop. i mean, tell me why there were eight police officers called for a traffic stop. for us to once again watch this over and over again in america is beyond disheartening. it's ridiculous. police reform needs to happen. and after eight months of negotiations in

wade, -- michelle goodwin.y were out here like, -- ♪ ♪ ♪ they were just killing them softly the whole time. it was great, it was enlivening, listening to black women, they know what they are talking about. >> and they were so patient. as people, like -- can the camera go through the stomach, through the uterus? no, senator, that's not possible. david corn, can you tell us, in your view, who won the week? >> i promise i won't saying and it's hard to get good news these days. i'm going with stephen airs, the trump fanatic who was arrested on january 6th. he believed the big lie and he testified this week, very moving testimony that he now sees that he was kind. he had no research, he took off the blinders, and saw that trump was lined him and everyone else and he regrets to having listened to donald trump. what's great about this is, it shows a maga extremist kim d. program himself and for himself from the trump cult. >> he did say he did not believe it as much. -- i'm going to give it to you, it's good to see hi

. >> professor michelle goodwin the chance, the professor of law at the university of california irvine. please note professor goodman has a hard stop at 11:00 at which time she willf be excused. then we will hear from the senior counsel for the alliance defending freedom. finally we will hear from sarah lopez, abortion storyteller as we testify into the youth program manager at james due process. the witnesses will be on you to do so we can swear that man. please raise your right hand. do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to givee is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? let the record to show that thee witnesses answered in the affirmative. thank you and without objection your written statements will be made a part of the record. withhe that, ms. graves, you are now recognized for your testimony. >> chairwoman maloney, ranking member and members of the committee,em thank you for the invitation too testify today. ied am president and ceo at the national women's law center and i'm here today because in a single day millions lost a right that