micheline maynard, director of the reynolds national center for business journalism at arizona state "national journal." i'm going to start with reverend overton. give me a sense of how your religious community sees this debate right now. >> well, there's a huge concern in the religious community after the hobby lobby case where the government basically wanted to tell that christian-owned company that you need to buy medicine that causes abortion for your employees or the subpoenaing of the pastor's sermons in houston that, as society is changing, we may be losing some of our religious liberties and so we were supportive of this law to set a high bar for government to interfere in the private practice of religion and the original bill we were pleased with. >> ifill: yet one of the most remarkable parts unfolding in this day bait this week have been the series of companies who have lined up against the argument not what we saw with the supreme court case. why? >> that's right. we got a preview of this a year ago in arizona where the arizona legislature approved something very similar

i do not think that position can stand. >> ifill: ron brownstein, micheline maynard, tim overton, thankjor developments of the day: the united states and five other nations announced a framework for a final nuclear deal with iran. and 147 people died when islamist gunmen from somalia attacked a college in neighboring kenya. >> ifill: on the newshour online, new research shows that your baby might be a tiny scientist. it's well-established that when infants see something surprising, they look longer. now we know why: they're exploring and generating hypotheses, just like a real scientist. so don't be alarmed when your child bangs toys against the coffee table-- she's just testing its properties. see the full story on our home page, pbs.org/newshour. >> woodruff: tune in later this evening on charlie rose, former chairman of the joint chiefs michael mullen on the iran nuclear deal. and that's the newshour for tonight. on friday, we'll look at diversity in baseball. how america's pastime is reflecting changes in the country. i'm judy woodruff. >> ifill: and i'm gwen ifill. we'll see you on