there's, like, so many examples of how, you know, i mean, look at even, like, someone like michelle alexander. she talks about how she was, like, kind of this, you know, lawyer, righting? >> yep. >> and she came across it. her husband's like a prosecutor, and she came to that. and i think there's different ways. i think, actually, that speaks to the power of movements when people who work for the system actually call that into question and what they're doing into question, right? that actually says something about what's happening outside of society, you know? but i think, you know, i'm like back in the day, but people, like, hold -- people read together, they study together, they go to things together. i think you don't really -- you could do that with a couple people, right? i don't think necessarily -- like, i agree with michelle, you do have to find that kind of community and build it, you know? i think most importantly build that also with folks that are not only in universities, right? always stay the connected to, you know, struggles. >> yeah, absolutely. >> law schools need people lik

there has been a very successful counter civil rights movement that has led to what michelle alexander calls new jim crow. it is not a linear process, to be sure. the most significant change comes from below. relationship building is key. we have studies. if you know someone of a different religion, you are much less likely to be prejudiced toward that community. if i have a personal relationship with someone who is jewish, i am less likely to be anti-semitic. there are caveats to that and that has to do with whether me being less anti-semitic translates into political action . how do you affect individual change when individuals are changing their opinions, but policies are not changing? has traveledho around the united states and abroad on this issue, the most successful instance since i have seen a pushing back against islamophobia in a political sense have come from coalitions that include muslims as significant partners and have been around not for a few years, but decades and have really established deep roots in the community and been doing this work long-term. few audience want

and ago michelle alexander talks ceration and the dangers. it does mean you can be outstside a prison for the m mo. liz mcalister, the wididow of pl berrrrigan, liz mcalister has bn gel f for almost a year now. she celebrated come if you could call it celebrity, her 79th birthday in jail. steve kelly turns 70 in jail. and there is mark colville. how did you all decide to leave jail and they decide to remain? talk about the decision you made. >> i think the time in jail, time in court is also part of the witness, just as much as going to kings bay. i had intended to stay in, but my health was deteriorating. that is really important that the camden county joe we were in for the first five weeks in time and in glenn county j jl. i got out in the middldle of ju. i have low blood pressure .sually and it went really high i thought, i'm getting blood clots. the food was -- - all jail f f o --was feeling, i want t to get t of jail 11. amy: are you communicating with the other prisoners at this time? >> we are. we had a sobering conversation with mark

1960s, a very successful counter civil rights movement that has existed that has led to what michelle alexander calls, a new jim crow and it is not a linear process to be sure. but i think the most significant change comes from the low. i definitely agree. relationship building is key. we do have studies on this, if you know someone of a different religion than your own, you're much less likely to be prejudiced toward that community. if i know someone, have a personal relationship with jewish, i'm less likely to be anti-semitic. there are caveats to those studies and theories and a lot of it has to do with me being less anti-semitic translates into significant political action, how do you effect political change, when individuals are changing their opinions about the communities but the policies are not changing. so it has to be plugged into, channeled into political movements. as someone who has traveled around the united states and abroad even on this topic, the most successful instances i've seen of pushing back against islam phobe yeah and very effectively in a political sense have come fro

this has become as michelle alexander calls it in her book, the new jim crow.se we all know when you have a conviction for doing things that two of the last three presidents admitted to doing, that now you can't get a job, you can't get a business license, you can't get a loan from a bank, you can't get public housing. in many states, you can't vote. and so this system is something i have been fighting against since i was in college. my time as mayor was trying to dismantle the system. my time -- when i ran for senate, my pollster told me, hey, this is not a popular issue, don't talk about it. and i said, leaders don't follow consensus, they mold it. so i've been to private prisons to visit them and see what they're doing. their rates of security for inmates as well as even for the prison guards is lower. nobody should profit off of the incarceration of other people. i am against private prisons. i will not only fight to lower their quota, i will fight to end them in our country, because that should not happen. and i will continue my fight to end mass incarcera

this has become as michelle alexander calls it in her book, the new jim crow because if you continue doing what the last presidents have been doing , you can't get a job, you can't get a loan from the bank or housing. in many states you can't vote. and so this system is something i have been fighting against since i was in college. my time as mayor was trying to dismantle the system. the time when i ran for senate, my pollsters told me this isn't something to talk about. so i have been to private prisons to visit them and see what they are doing, the reign of the i want mates as well as prison guards is lower that, nobody could -- incarceration of other people. i will fight to end them in our country because that should not happen and i will continue my fight to end that incarceration in america, which is a waste of taxpayer dollars. our infrastructure is tumbling and all we are doing is building prisons and jails to warehouse human defendants. >> thank you, senator. a concrete solution. next up we have nanette, a leader and add vogue cat for immigrant rights. she is a colombian immi

michel bands. let me thank james alexander for his remarks. and let me thank sarah trongone for introducing me.nd most of all, thank you very much for coming out this afternoon to complete the political revolution and transform this country. >>[cheers and applause] and i want to emphasize that what this campaign is about is not just winning the democratic nomination. it is not just defeating donald trump, the most dangerous president in modern american history, but it is about all of us, transforming this country that is what this is about. >>[cheers and applause] this weekend, i will be not only here in wisconsin, but in indiana, ohio, michigan, and pennsylvania. four years ago, despite losing the popular vote by three million votes, donald trump carried all of those states and won enough electoral votes to be elected president. >>[jeers] together, we are going to make sure that that does not happen again. >>[cheers and applause] we're going to win here in wisconsin. >>[cheers and applause] we're going to win in indiana. we're going to win in ohio. we're going to win in michigan. >>[cheers and

michelle, thanks very much. >> labor secretary alexander acosta is facing a barrage of questions overade more than a decade ago as a federal prosecutor. he was serving as the u.s. attorney of southern florida when he signed off on a deal for billionaire alleged pedophile jeffrey epstein. >> despite a federal investigation identifying 36 alleged underaged victims, all underaged, epstein was allowed to plead guilty to two state felony solicitation charges. he served just 13 months, and that of an 18-month sentence. yesterday, house democrats expressed frustration with acosta over that deal at a budget hearing. >> my community is still very upset about this. and i hope there will be another opportunity to really flesh this out and give you an opportunity to answer all these allegations, because i think we can all agree that a very vile, disgusting man who molested underaged girls, lots and lots of them, really got off the hook. >> massachusetts congresswoman there catherine clark challenged acosta on the deal and questioned his ability to lead the department at all. >> how as secretary o