michelle bachman and senator burnie sanders had a debate on the minimum wage increase. bachman represents everything that's wrong with the house of republicans. >> do you believe in raising the minimum wage? >> i believe in economic opportunity. >> do you believe -- >> the minimum wage in australia is $20. they're losing the ford plant. they're losing the gm plant. they're losing manufacturing. i want people's wages to go up. >> we all do. >> excuse me. >> people's wages have gone down 8% in seven years. >> do you believe that the minimum wage should be increased? >> what i think is we need to create jobs and we need to look at the example of australia. >> it's a major issue in the president's speech tomorrow night. >> do you think it should be raised to $20? >> i'm just asking $10.10. do you believe there should be an increase in the minimum wage? >> no, i don't. >> so that's what the president is up against. that mind-set. senator sanders was advocating from a position of 71% of americans. bachman finally admitted she has no problem blocking the president's agenda. thi

i would think tea party members right now, michele bachman, incredibly nervous about this. >> i don'tnervous if you are in the tea party. tea party independents, these are all messages that the republican party hasn't -- cheryl: a good thing for the tea party. >> whether it is democrat or republican, these parties shouldn't take their voters for granted, they should allow and win them but i think the message is not that people are moving left, use the republican birdie numbers go down, mitt romney wasn't a big conservative so for republicans the message is the way you win those is by sticking to the message of work, the issue, free-market. cheryl: what does this mean for the midterms? >> not sure there is an impact on the midterms. the issue in the midterms is obamacare, the problems to this point, a premium spikes later in the year, whatever party, it happens to be the democratic party that embrace that and those are especially senate candidates in swing states have to live with their votes. for them whatever people registered as, obamacare is a problem. cheryl: you need to talk abou

bachmans. you went to michele bachmanns and she and her husband cooked a dinner and you were talking about it atross the aisle. what kind of conversation is that. >> we are going down to new orleans where they do things right. i love new orleans. >> you love nola. do you know the name of the team? >> the new orleans saints. >> basketball? you can't yell at me. you signed the contract. >> the hornets. i will take you down. >> what's a new orleans basketball team? the pelicans. >> the pelicans? >> there is no arguing. it's the time you lot of jeopardy to cheech mare in. >> i love new orleans and ti loe the saints. >> we're ring out 2013. we will take a quick break. we'll be right back. there's no secondhand smoke in here... ...and no cigarette advertising around here. there's a reason we know this is really bad... ...and this is really good. there's a reason 2 in 3 people are surviving cancer. and we cannot be silent until it's 3 out of 3. this shout-out is for everything the american cancer society has done in the last 100 years. make your tax-deductible donation by december 31st and help finish