joe was the ceo of deloitte to north america and michelle coleman mays is the general counsel of the new york city public library and allstate general counsel and a number of other fortune 500 companies for a number of years and ryan britain who when he started on the commission, i may get the title slightly wrong but he was the guy who ran theme parks for disney because if you are going to mess around with lines you have to have a guy who does that i should say that brian's best line of the whole commission was after we were talking about long lines at the polling places he just kind of shakes his head and goes you don't even have a concession stand when you are done? >> so we sort of got to mix both traditional expertise and a bit of humor with this. so where we came at the commission from is bob and i have a somewhat checkered history for a lot of years and beating each other about the head and shoulders from opposite sides of various political wars. not least among them recounts and recounts are particularly instructed to me and i think to bob in this process because when you go

michelle coleman mays's currently the general concert in new york public library and allstate generalounselor in another -- number of fortune 500 companies for a number of years and brian britten who when he started on the commission, and going to get the title slightly wrong but he was the guy who ran theme parks for disney because if you are going to mess around with lines you ought to have a guy from disney. i should say that brian's best line of the whole commission was after we were talking about long lines at the polling places he just kind of shakes his head and goes you mean they don't even have a concession stand when you are done in? [laughter] so we sort of got to mix both professional expertise and a bit of humor in this. so where we came at the commission from is bob and i have a somewhat checkered history for a lot of years in beating each other about the head and shoulders from opposite sides of various political, political wars. not least among them recounts and recounts are particularly instructive to see that the election system has some real flaws in it beneath the