in our san francisco commissioners including joe marshall, michelle davis, and susan christian from her human rights commission. who you later here this evening, and also of course, again, don to zia and jennifer to peter for their great work. one of the highlights i have in my own personal history is that moment where i was serving as the director of the human rights commission, and i went to mayor willie brown at the time. it again i indicated to him that, yes, i've had many years of advocacy on behalf of people but i really wanted to do something more direct. so he asked me what was that. i want to get into the real business

in our san francisco commissioners including joe marshall, michelle davis, and susan christian from her human rights commission. who you later here this evening, and also of course, again, don to zia and jennifer to peter for their great work. one of the highlights i have in my own personal history is that moment where i was serving as the director of the human rights commission, and i went to mayor willie brown at the time. it again i indicated to him that, yes, i've had many years of advocacy on behalf of people but i really wanted to do something more direct. so he asked me what was that. i want to get into the real business of the city where people get hired, contracts get awarded, the real business of the city. he said, why do you want to do that could i said because i believe we'll civil rights movement is an economic justice. and i felt women-owned and minority owned businesses could be key to that and that as i grew in these positions there was something else that i wanted to do. something that i had learned from the civil rights movement. something that ms. obama says consulate

davis. thank you very much. fair and balanced now we have michelle bachman just back from egypt and she does see remarkable similaritiesmes to who's side we are on. it is difficult to decide that? >> it is unfortunate the the president's sense of the wrong signals we do want to see positive change in the middle east but what is on it the president throws his lot in with the wrong side time after time after time. when i was speaking of leaders in the middle east they say to us is america still with us with a global war on terror? 1 meter said his people ask him why aid to american support terrorist? the others say how dare we forget those that attacked us on 9/11 now we are not only defend the those same people by promoting those same people. we do want to see freedom come to the middle east but that is what people are worried about with syria. talk about the leadership they are afraid those that off the deep end with terrorism may come into a position of power in syria to spill across there borders to hurt their country that they try to stabilize. neil: it is not as if the egyptian government with its cracked down on t

davis, chief economist at vanguard. always nice to have you on the program. >> likewise. thank you, susie. >> i will pick up where michelle just left off. she says the 3% rate is saying that the u.s. economy is doing better. is it really? looking at today's jobs numbers, is that reflective of how the economy's really doing, or are the other numbers that we get like on housing or auto sales that seem to be a lot stronger, how we doing? >> well, we're certainly doing better in our just a moment, where the u.s. economy was, say, two years ago. housing, as you mentioned, is a clear example, has clearly rebounded. consumer balance sheets are stronger, business investment is higher today than it was two years ago. so despite the disappointing news today in the jobs report, it wasn't dismal, and i think the higher interest rates that we're seeing are reflective of a somewhat firmer economy. >> but joe, do you expect rates to continue to rise? is 3% a cap on the upside, or are you looking for significantly higher rates down the road? >> well, i think if we're bold enough to look out for at least a year, i think it's tough to envi

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