as always, we are joined by our resident co-presenter michelle gillernew. michelle is the current mp for fermana south toront. she has served in the northern ireland assembly as a former minister for agriculture and rural development and chairperson of the health committee amongst other things. michelle has been a shinfian activist since her teams and has been elected almost continuously since 1998. and today's guest is lawrence mcyong. he is a former ira prisoner, author and screenwriter. after sir. life sentence in prison, dr. lawrence mckung obtained a phd in sociology at queens university, belfast. he's also co-founder of the belfast film festival in the mid-1990s. lawrence mcyong, welcome to the show. so lawrence, tell us a bit about your child who grown up? well, i grew up outside rondlestown, um, which is about 20 minutes from here, very mixteria religion wise, and often is odd that i never see the conflict, here is about. religion, it's been politics, but religion has been used as the empire is used, tribal difference or skin color or whatever else,

as always, we are joined by our resident co-presenenter michelle gillernew. michelle is the current mp for fermana south toront. she has served in the northern ireland assembly as a former minister for agriculture and rural development and chairperson of the health committee amongst other things. michelle has been a shinfian activist since her teams and has been elected almost continuously since 1998. and today's guest is lawrence mcyong. he is a former ira prisoner, author and screenwriter. after serving a life sentence in prison, dr. lawrence mckung obtained a phd in sociology at queens university, belfast. he's also co-founder of the belfast film festival in the mid-1990s. lawrence mckung, welcome to the show. so lawrence, tell us a bit about your child grown up. well, i grew up at randlstone, um, which 20. made from here very mixture religion wise and often his ad that i never see the conflict here is about religion, it's been politics, but religion has been used as the empire is used tribal difference or skin color or whatever else, so it's a very ideal s