michelle goldberg joins me now. michelle, thanks for being here.f not now, when, moderates? if not now, when? is this the moment? are you optimistic? >> no, i'm not optimistic. and the reason i wrote the column was not because i actually think that this is likely to happen, but because a, it's what should happen, and it's actually, i think, a more reasonable ask than what we heard from both republicans and a lot of pundits in the last -- which is, why didn't democrats save kevin mccarthy? a lot of hand wringing, that the democrats did not step up and save the speakership in exchange for a very explicit guarantee of nothing whatsoever. republicans -- moderate republicans -- which is a relative term, would not even have to vote for jeffries. i think that if you had moderate republicans come up with some sort of relatively moderate candidate, they could make a deal with democrats. and they would sort of be in the catbird seat, right? all they need to do -- they don't have to vote for someone from another party, they don't have to vote for someone who

we are going to unpack that right now with michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york timeselle, first of all, republicans speaking out against belize is slightly cold comfort, given who the titular, the sort of nominal head of the party is. >> right. although i guess it's impressive in that the moderate kind of quote unquote moderate wing -- will pass for moderate republicans -- have been so incredibly spineless that, i think, most people expected him to fold. they thought that they would fold on the first vote and now it seems like, increasingly, like the attempts to threaten them and -- >> death threats! >> right. and the thing is, death threats, in the past, has been very effective in, again, getting the republicans to do the will of the trump base. we saw that, for example, in mckay coppins talking to mitt romney, and mitt romney saying that his colleagues were saying that they wanted to vote to impeach, but they could not afford the -- i can't remember -- millions of dollars the -- in personal security. and they were worried about people going after them. and so that h

this story, a top columnist, michelle goldberg from the center left new york times now says democratsialist are an embarrassment for applying hamas terror attacks and witchery in israel and we have the messenger joe concha joe concha unlike demand refunds like schools like harvard for academic malpractice not teaching the truth about hamas terrorists and israel and how israel is a tiny beacon of democracy, freedom of 10 million in a sea 22 arab league nations with 420 million, we'll talk about this next on "the evening edit". ♪ the war against hamas terrorists reveals just how far off the deep end college campuses have gone nationwide. pro-hamas students again clashing with pro- israeli students at colleges. we got fox news tv cotton live in new york city with more. good to see you. >> good evening, college campuses including here are hotbeds of across the entire country. the protest happened this afternoon follows several across the city and across the entire nation. this afternoon we saw about 100 pro- palestinian supporters demonstrating here, approaching people with flyers and got

we're going to unpack that right now with michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for "the new york times michelle, first of all, republicans speaking out against bullies is a slightly cold comfort given who the sort of nominal head of the party is. >> right. although i guess it's impressive in that, you know, ump the moderate -- quote-unquote moderate ring, what passes for republicans, has been so incredibly spineless that i think most people exec them to fold. they thought they would fold on the first vote and seems increasingly the attempts to threaten them -- >> death threats. >> right. and the thing is death threats in the past have been very effective in getting republicans to do the will of the base. we saw that with mitt romney. they couldn't afford the millions of dollars a year in personal security and they were worried about people going after them. so that has been the sort of m.o. of far-right republican party. not to make these threats themselves, but when they say they're going to unleash the base, they know very well what that entails. release the kraken and sydney powell.

michelle goldberg is here. in the washington post, jennifer reuben is with us.s, i really want to talk to you both, this is such a critical moment. yet, the greatest deliberative body in the world, and i'm using quotes, which consists of part of the house of representatives, cannot do its job. despite that, jennifer, you wrote earlier this week, president biden's response to the terrorist attack in israel, that rose to the challenge. can you break down a little bit of your op-ed for our audience? >> sure, you have this remarkable split screen, simone, just as you explained. on one hand, the president has given a address from the oval office, that was very well received. he went into a war zone, met with israelis, he helped broker the humanitarian relief that is now first going into gaza. he has cautioned the israeli government about abiding by the laws of war. on the other hand, you have a completely dysfunctional, frozen, crazy house of representatives. we should always caution, it's not the house of representatives, it's the republicans in the house of represe

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the massacre in israel and the need for decent left, in the piece michelle goldberg calls those celebratinged, anti-imperialists. that's really strong stuff. what do you think, kenny? >> i'm completely disgusted, and i can't even begin to fathom the kind of -- what's even been going on. it's very, very difficult to process that the world has witnessed what we've seen this week. and so where this hatred comes from is beyond me. i didn't -- i'm not jewish, so i wasn't that sensitive to it, but this week has opened my eyes to point where i'm going i can't even understand what some of these colleges and schools are teaching these kids, why they have this issue. hamas is different from palestine. hamas is actually taking the palestinian people and saying, huh-uh, you don't go anywhere, you stay right there, so when the rockets come in, they're going to turn the story around and say look what the jews did. >> it's a propaganda machine. >> it's revolting to me. stuart: we just told you about the rise in anti-semitism in new york. this city has gone from one disaster to another. it has been an awfu

. >> michelle goldberg, thank you for joining me tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> that is a show for this evening. and now it is time for the last word >> at least you're with ali velshi, who not tempting fate by is in for lawrence. saying you should always get worse right, because all we have to say is can go worse than this. considering that politics are becoming so predictable in somewhat numbing these days, in the worst way, ruth marcus's suggestion that donald trump as speaker would at least keep it interesting. i don't need house to be more interesting than it is. >> you live in interesting times. >> somebody else, right. >> you live in interesting trey times, the rest of us can live here. have a good time, see you next week. >> right now in america there are two dame trumps, not literally, perish the thought, but there is no trump the leader of the republican party, who is busy, as you just heard, endorsing candidates for house speaker after the congressional wing of the republican conference that is in thrall to him through

. >> let's bring in "new york times" opinion columnist michelle goldberg. eally spanned the idealogical divide on this issue. i was particularly moved by yours talking about mistakes that many people made, many networks made and newspapers. and you talked about the misinformation. it is impossible to know what to believe in this hideous war. talk about that. >> i should say it's not always impossible to know, but it is often impossible to know immediately. we have both malicious propaganda, trollish propaganda, misinformation. i think what we saw with this hospital bombing, have many, many people, myself includes, initially assumed this was the result of an israeli air strike. it's important to note that in the past when israel has accidentally killed civilians, it has blamed it on an errant islamic jihad missile and it's turned out to be an israeli air strike. so it's understandable why people believe that. but the rush to judgment in this case has had devastating consequences that can't be rolled back by a correction, because that's not how the flow of inf

goldberg polling family is in agony and you can see why. it's just the unknow isn is really damag what is so damaging them, of course. michele, great to have you on, as always. thanink you. well, coming up, college campuses divided over the war, sparking walkouts and violence.h and what if i told you that we are keeping track of the trlleges holding anti-israel protests and that numberac is nw well past 50? we'll show you those schoolswe' nextsh. >> it's time for a new shower. but you don't want the hassle. you just want it done. re bath from start to stunning.r call us or visit rebecca comei to schedule your free and home consultation. >> this isn't just for eight.e'' these aren't just shipments. they're promisesve. promises of all shapes and sizes. each with a time and a place they've been promised to be a promises everything to old dominion because it means everything to you. >> did you ever dream of seeing the wonders of the world? breathtaking landscapes, historic ruins and treasures, incredible creatures. >> look no further than the florida keys. there is no place on earth as magical as or as unforgettable as florida w