joining me to discuss all that is michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for "the new york times." michelle, thank you for being here. just for some context here, i mean hillary clinton, yes, former secretary of state, yes. former senator, former presidential candidate. she has been teaching at columbia university. she started i think at the institute of global politics there. today she spent three hours as part of a panel talking about the future of ukraine. this is someone who's grappling with this campus free speech concerns in and around the war in gaza quite literally on her front doorstep. i wonder what you make of her sort of delineation, that some conversations can happen but they have to happen in an orderly fashion when you're talking about something about when there's genocide. >> i would say it doesn't surprise me someone who's a professor or administrator is not a fan of disruptive protests especially when she's the one being disrupted. i kind of expect it's too much to her to cheer it on when it comes to these thorny questions. i think she's right whether israel's acti

joining me now is michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for "the new york times." u for being here. it kind of feels like mcconnell's leaving the scene of a car accident that he helped create. >> that he caused. >> yeah, is that fair? >> i think it's -- yes. i think that the only thing, the only kind of maybe sliver of a grim irony is that he -- is that he has sort of laid the foundation for the destruction of the party that he so deeply loved, right? so he -- he's enabled -- i think he makes no secret of his total disdain for donald trump, even though i would imagine he'll endorse him and bend a knee like everybody else does. but you saw after january 6th that he clearly -- he was clearly angry -- he wasn't angry enough to actually atake the step and show the leadership that would put an end to donald trump, but he thought someone else would do it for him, and the reason, the one reason that we're unlikely to see any sort of serious criminal accountability before the election is because of the very supreme court that mitch mcconnell, you know, kind of used these re

joining meth now are tim miller writer at large at the bulwark, and michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for "the new york times." thank you both for being here. so, michelle. >> ergod. >> i will say, i'm not one to say mike pence is cassandra. not even a cassandra because he wasn'tsa predicting doom. that 2020 interview is so ilustrative of the bind republicans find themselves in if not completely of their making. what are your expectations of this issue and the 2024 election? could it be inwhole ball game? >> i think on this very narrow issue of ivf my guess is they try to do something to clarify it. in alabama you see there's a republican senator who's saying, well, maybe we'll say life doesn't begin at conception, it begins at implantation in the uterus, they're a running up against theth totally foreseeab limits of lldefining a baby or defining person hood the way they haveho chosen to do so, right?ch and this is something everybody -- all pro-choice people have been warning about for years, that personhood language, language about life beginning at aconception. itbe impacts abortio

turning me now are tim miller, writer-at-large with the bulwark, and michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times. thank you both for being here. so, michelle, [laughter] , i am not one to say mike pence is a cassandra, not even a cassandra because he wasn't predicting doom, that 2022 interview was so illustrative of the bind republicans find themselves in, and one largely of their own making, if not completely of their own making. what are your expectations for this issue and the 2024 election? could it be the whole ball game? >> i think on this very narrow issue of ivf my guess is that they tried to do something to clarify it. in alabama you see there is a republican senator who is saying maybe we will say that life doesn't begin at conception, it begins at implantation in the uterus, because they are basically running up against that only foreseeable limits of defining a baby or defining personhood the way that they have chosen to do so. this is something that all pro- choice people have been warning about for years, that that person who had language, language about left

joining me to talk about all that is michelle goldberg, columnist for the new york times. , thank you for being here. so just for some context here, i mean, hillary clinton, yes, former secretary of state, yes, former senator, former presidential candidate. she is -- she has been teaching at columbia university. she started, i think, the institute of global politics there. today she spent three hours as part of a panel talking about the future of ukraine. this is someone who is grappling with this kind of campus free speech concerns in and around the war on gaza, quite literally on our front doorstep. i wonder what you make of her sort of delineation that some conversations can happen, but they have to happen in an orderly fashion when you're talking about something like whether genocide is being committed? >> i would say, it doesn't surprise me that somebody who's a professor or administrator is not a fan of disruptive protests. i mean, especially when often she is the one being disrupted. i kind of feel like it's too much to expect her to cheer that on, even if you do sym

and michelle goldberg, new york times columnist and msnbc political analyst -- i'm going to turn to myist trend here, michelle, and ask if you understand who -- the and who is the entity that needs more kids? who is louis, and why do they need more kids? >> well, i think that there is a great deal of concern on the right about -- falling birth rates among some very specific populations, right. and this is a true globally. and it's interesting to hear him say that, in the context of talking about the end of roe v. wade. >> which populations? because who is the we? >> right. i mean, i think, i think that this is obviously, he is talking about white people. although i have a feeling if you confronted him on it, and he wasn't stumbling too much, he would say something like america. >> okay, but they also mean more kids. but then when immigrant kids come, we don't have space, and we don't need more kids when it's immigrant kids. we're going to figure that out. let me go to you amanda, because you are in this situation of ivf, using ivf really as a result of what was done to you physically,

michelle goldberg is in opinion columnist for the new york times and she joins me now. chelle, you have written about this. you and i talked about it so much. i was so amazed by the republican party putting out the statement last night, after they got their butts kicked. they lost badly. being like, we're just going to do this again. i mean, run this exact same race in nine months, and if the shoe was on the other foot, you know we would have 100 op-eds this morning about tom suozzi was too woke. >> well, i actually want to say that there's one reason why, look, i don't think it's going to go any different in november, but i do think that there is something specific about special elections, that this democratic coalition. there is a lot of reasons that the republican candidate lost here. the district had just kind of been humiliated by the george santos debacle and along comes this untested person who is not a kind of george santos level, hadn't really been a paratrooper, was a democrat, wouldn't say whether or not he voted for donald trump, wouldn't wasn't straightforwa

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joining me is amanda, the lead plaintiff in the texas abortion lawsuit and michelle goldberg, msnbc politicalst. i'm going it turn to my journalist friend, michelle, and ask if you understand who the we is and who is the entity who needs more kids? >> i think there is a great deal of concern on the right about falling birth rates among some very specific populations. and this is true globally. and it's interesting to kind of hear him say that in the context of talking about the end of roe v. wade, because -- >> which populations? who is the we? >> right. well, i think -- i think this is obviously he's talking about white people, although i have a feeling if you confronted him on it and he wasn't stumbling too much, he would say something like america. >> okay, but they also need more kids, but when immigrant kids come, we don't have space and don't need more kids. let me go to you, amanda. you are in this situation of ivf, using ivf really as a result of what was done to you physically by the inability to have an abortion, to have normal health care. this placed you in a position of needing i

michelle goldberg, thank you for your time tonight, my friend. that is our show for this evening. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. >>> i understand this, in this building and in the 202 area code that is washington, d.c., border security is a political issue. but if we leave the 202 area code, everywhere else in the country, this is not a political issue, it's a national security issue. and when you actually go to border patrol counsel, those that see the chaos day to day, they're saying send us some help. >> yet it appears that help won't be coming from congress anytime soon. the bipartisan border bill that republican senator james lankford and others worked on for months is now dead. wal go through the republican-led chaos on capitol hill. >>> plus, we'll take a look at a possible plan b on border security from the white house as president biden considers taking executive actions to address illegal migration. and also ahead we're going to break down the monumental case going before the supreme court later this morning that could determine whether donald tr

joining me to discuss all that is michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times. eing here. just for context here, hillary clinton, former secretary of state, former presidential candidate, she has been teaching and columbia university. she is starting the institute of global politics there. today, she did three hours as part of the panel talking about the future of ukraine. this is somebody that is grappling with this campus free speech concerns in and around the war in gaza quite literally on her front doorstep. i wonder what you make of her delineation, of severe conversations can happen, but they can have in an orderly fashion, when we talk about something like whether genocide is thunder not? >> it does not surprise me that somebody who is a professor or administrator is not a fan of disrupting protests, especially when, often, she is the one being disrupted. i think it's too much to expect her to cheer that on, even if you do sympathize with the concerns that the protesters, and i think she is right that some of these thorny questions, like whether israel's a

michelle goldberg, thank you for your time tonight, my friend. that is our show for this evening, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening, lawrence. o'donnell, good evening, lawrence. >>> good evening, alex, we will be joined by a yale law professor who won't be elaborating on what hillary told you, what the supreme court might be doing, exactly about hillary clinton's idea in detail. it's of course on the supreme court argument. we have senator sheldon whitehouse but also, we have senator jon tester, and, alex, we know him as the mild mannered and, of course, toughest person in the united states senate, because he's an actual farmer. >> he has a majorly huge tractor, yes. >> he sent out an email today that begins with, i am sick of this bs. . so, i don't know. we might be getting gloves off. >> sounds testy. >> we'll find out what bs he's exactly into. that's coming up. >> keep it a family program tonight, lawrence, we'll be watching. >> thank you, alex. >> have a good show. >> thanks. >> donald trump has been admin

. >> michelle goldberg, thank you for helping me ride the chairimate tonight. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. >>> a surprising decision from the supreme court could have a massive impact on the 2024 presidential election. the justices will hear arguments on donald trump's immunity claim, which will delay his federal election interference trial. we'll have expert legal analysis for you on that in just a moment. also ahead, the end of an era for senate republicans. the party's longest serving leader in the upper chamber is stepping down at the end of the year. we'll take a look at mitch mcconnell legacy and who could replace him. and that comes as congressional leaders now have a deal to fund part of the government for a few more weeks, giving lawmakers a little more time to get a lot done. o get a lot done >>> good morning, and welcome to "way too early" on this thursday, february 29th, a weekday, just what we needed this year to be a little longer. i'm jonathan lemire, thanks for starting your day with us. and we begin with some massive

michelle goldberg, thank you so much for your time tonight, my friend. that is our show for this evening. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, alex. we are gonna be joined by a yale law school professor who's actually going to elaborate on what hillary clinton was telling you about what the supreme court might do, and elaborate on exactly hillary clinton's idea in detail. and it's a two senator night course of the eve of the supreme court argument, we have senator sheldon whitehouse. but we have senator jon tester. and alex, i don't know, we know him as the mild mannered and of course toughest person in the united states senate, because he's an actual working farmer. >> yes, he has a major, majorly huge tractor, which, yes. >> he sent out an email today that begins with i am sick of this bs. >> mm. >> so, i don't know. >> sounds -- >> we might be getting calls off, jon tester, in the next hour. >> sounds testy. >> we are gonna find out what bs exactly he's -- keep it up. >> keep it a family pr

michelle goldberg, thank you for helping me ride the chariot into darkness tonight. i appreciate your time, my friend. that's our show for tonight. now it's time for the last world with don lawrence o'donnell. good evening on this big newsnight. >> good evening, alex. and of course we have our supreme court experts with us, neal katyal and laurence tribe. they've got a lot to say. and i'm gonna get straight to it. >> do it. >> thank you, alex. thank you. >>> lost in the fog of today's supreme court news is the hard fact that donald trump is still scheduled to go to trial in manhattan on march 25th to face criminal charges in his first criminal trial, charges that he tried to effect the results of the 2016 presidential election by making hush money payments to porn star stormy daniels, who will likely become one of the star witnesses against donald trump in that trial, a witness who even donald trump's followers will have no problem understanding when she describes donald trump did with her alone in a hotel room while his wife was pregnant and when she describes how d