we're joined now by michelle norman, the executive director and founder of partners and promise. 's a group that advocates for military families with special needs. michelle, thank you so much for joining us to talk about what's really this is a critical issue to the military and keeping people in it you started this group after dealing with a gap and assistance firsthand you're seeing less than half a families surveyed are satisfied. i suspect you were not surprised by that number absolutely so a little bit of background about me. >> i have been a navy spouse for over 29 years and i am a mother of a beautiful adult young adult daughter who has spent her entire life within this military system in within the efm p program that the survey was made for and i was fortunate to testify a little over 4.5 years ago in front of congress to talk about the issues that our military families with disabilities face and our families are struggling. they're struggling for that to have some continuity of care of their loved ones as we move so very often within this highly mobile lifestyle, we move

michel barnier in disguise. and joining me now is the former liberal democrat mp norman baker. norman always a pleasure.ret that ed davey wants to rejoin the european union, but he wants an all inclusive, fully open border policy with every european union member state for everybody under 30 immediately. that's precisely what we voted to stop in 2016. >> well, hang on, martin. good evening to you. first of all, i apologise for the ghoulish backdrop here. i'm in a hotel, look, i think listening to ed's comments there, he was talking about getting back in the single market over a period of time and having the same access for under 30s as we presently offer to people from other parts of the world. so it doesn't seem to me to be terribly revolutionary. and let's go back to the brexit vote. 5248 was the margin very narrow, and many of those who voted for brexit voted for a softer brexit for us to continue in the single market, which, after all, was margaret thatcher's crowning achievement in terms of european policy. so i don't think he's been particularly radical in saying that. and you have to bear in mind,