michelle's daughter is now seven years old and being raised by her grandmother and the o'connell familyto get florida's governor to order this case to a grand jury because in the end, michelle's family is not giving up. >> michelle, of all people, loved life, would have fought her way to live. there was no suicide in that child. >> michelle did not take her own life. michelle was on a path to better her life. she was not leaving life. she was leaving jeremy banks. >> jeremy banks, after some months on administrative leave, is now back in uniform with the st. john's county sheriff's department. and he has a new lease on life. he is married and seems resigned to the o'connells feeling about him however they feel. >> i spent a year with michelle. they spent 24 years with michelle. they didn't lose a girlfriend. they lost a best friend. they lost a daughter. they lost a sister. somebody lost their mother. i don't blame them for looking at me and pointing the finger. i don't blame them for their anger. i don't blame them for their hatred of me. i can almost come to a point where i understand

michelle masters said pelosi could do worse than listen to the money masters. ford o'connell as well. what do you make of that? gibbs saying look, rethink the mandate thing and nancy pelosi will have none of that thing? >> well, look i think that it's not a crazy suggestion. the administration has already delayed the mandate twice. so that in of itself an admission they know it doesn't work. for pelosi to try to suggest that perhaps he is making this and criticizing the obamacare because of his clients or because he is being paid to, it just shows how out of touch she is with america and how americans feel about obamacare because a lot of americans know this mandate will be bad for business. neil: hello hath no fury, think about it, ford, a democrat slightly wandering off the reservation. i guess you have to apply to republicans sometimes. the fact of the matter they were all singing from that same choir, both on the mandate, saying forced coverage thing. you better, suck up a penalty if you don't go along with this thing. now you have someone prominent like gibbs who says, w