this evening's program will address the leadership and legacy of first lady michelle obama. tonight, we will hear about the role that the first lady played in supporting president obama's election campaign. advising him during his time in the white house and how she continues to influence american politics today. i want to thank the women in leadership advisory board of hofstra university for co-sponsoring this event, and many of them are with us today. my role this evening is to moderate a panel discussion about with mr. tina tchen, who served as chief of staff to the first lady. from 2011 to 2017. and in conversation with several members of the house, two faculty. so i'll begin with brief introductions. tina tchen currently serves as the executive vice president and chief strategy and impact officer for the obama foundation. she served for eight years in the obama white house, first as the inaugural director of the white house office of public engagement and then as chief of staff to mrs. obama. chen also served as the executive director of the white house council on women

and in that book, she analyzes how the public received michelle obama. you know, she should checked she checked smokes most, boxes, video motherhood. she's then she adheres to traditional beauty standards. she's in a heterosexual marriage, but she's black and motherhood in america has really been defined by whiteness for hundreds years. and karissa in her book, points to the massive of the movie the help, which came out when michelle obama was first lady and really posits that, you know, many americans, white americans, you know, because of racism, uncomfortable with the idea of a black first lady reigning over the domestic sphere and in the help. of course, the you know the black women in that movie are upholding a white woman's domestic space. so she really posited that because of this racist discomfort with a black woman in our nation's most visible domestic space, the the help a sort of release valve that racist you backlash against michelle obama. so that's all her analysis and just included it in the book. yeah i just thought it was really interest

and covered emigration and presidential politics and motion -- michelle obama and her role in the white house. she is the author of american tapestry, the story of the black, white and multiracial ancestors of michelle obama and the coauthors unseen, from the new york times photo archives. swarns will be joined in conversation today with michelle martin. the host of morning edition. previously she was the weekend host of all things considered and host of the consider this saturday podcast where she drew on her deep reporting and intervening experience to dig into the news. she has been a journalist for more than 25 years and honored by numerous organizations. please join me in welcoming rachel swarns and michelle martin. >> thank you, there are four of us on the morning edition, do not get in trouble, welcome. and welcome home.>> it's nice to have you back in d.c. quite a journey. you know, how many of you read her original new york times piece in 2016, do you remember? so, do you ever wonder when somebody writes what is particularly a deeply reported article, and a book comes out, if t

remembered the michelle obama ancestors, tracing them back to the 1800s. she forwarded the email to me. immediately i knew it was a story. my reporting about michelle obama ancestors had allowed me to ask or how slavery shaped american families. i thought this would be the next step, to look at how slavery shaped one of our elite institutions. what i did not know was who were the 272? that is what i needed to find out, what i wanted to find out. >> can i just tell you? i was so moved by every aspect of that story. i did not understand the back story until i read the books. think about this. can we just marinate in that for a minute? this white guy who has not not very much about slavery or enslavement, didn't have any connection to it and understands that an institution that he cares deeply about is deeply enmeshed in it and he digs into his pocket, does some work and reaches out to you and your colleague reaches out to you and there we have it. you know, first of all, that is reporting 101, folks, and this is why i always tell my interns answer the mail,

michelle obama's ancestors had allowed me to explore how slavery shaped american families and. i thought that this would be the next step to look at how slavery shaped one of our elite institutions. so but what i didn't know was, you know, who who were the 272. and that's that's what i needed to find out what i wanted to find out. can i just tell you, i, i, i, i was so moved by every aspect of that story, which is i didn't understand the back story until i read the book that think about this. let's, can we just marinate in that for a minute. this white guy who had not thought very much about slavery or enslavement didn't have any connection to it and understands that an institution that he cares deeply is deeply enmeshed in it, and he digs into his pocket, does some work, and then reaches out to you and your colleague reaches out to you and. there we have it. and i just think that, you know, it's first of all, that's reporting one on one, folks. for those of you who really do just what i always tell my interns, answer the mail, please, please, please, please don't read your ema

first book was american tapestry story of the black, white and multiracial ancestors of michelle obama, and she is a coauthor of unseen, unpublished black history from the new york times, her most book is the 272, which we'll hear about in a moment. kidada williams is like me, a professor of history. she teaches at wayne state in detroit. she is the author of two amazing books. i death coming, which she will be talking about today. and they left great marks me her she is a coauthor of the charleston syllabus, which was a collection of writings, was put out after the massacre in charleston. that was an amazing thing. kidada and she is the creator of a podcast seizing freedom, which is really a pretty amazing project. kidada williams has been interviewed on npr's morning edition on point. her essays have appeared the new york times, slate and multiple scholarly journals. nick tabor is a freelance journalist whose work has appeared in new york magazine the new republic. the post oxford american, the paris review and elsewhere. africa town, which she's going to be talking to us about today

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first of all i want to say michelle obama was the dumbest first lady we ever had. and i want to say that matt baker is due bit and a liar. he would not even vote for the conservative bill that kevin brought up. he voted against it. nothing pleases him. he -- he is -- is hurting the republican party. i think the republicans need to oust him. and i think mccarthy is doing a good job and i agree with the last color. about the --caller. about the democrats. it is my way or the highway, that is the way they are area host: ok democrat line. this is simon in kentucky. caller: hello? host: you are on. caller: i have one comment about gates going after mccarthy. it is sad to see the republicans have splintered from what, from the -- basically you have two parts of the republican party the so-called freedom caucus republicans and then you also have the traditional conservatives. they are going at each other's throats. and i, if i am a democrat challenging one of the seat in 2023 or 2024, this would be the perfect goldmine to take seats back in the house. that is all i have f

outside of and i was to see a very smattering of the gifts were given to president obama and michelle obama while they were in and i know president obama was a big sports fan so he got a lot of sports jerseys that were signed. i grew up in pittsburgh, so it was really heartwarming to see that the pittsburgh steelers had a football for obama. each of them, including coach tomlin and was able to see that gift. have you traveled much around the country to see different sites? i have. i have been on the road a lot since. taking office in may, and that's because a lot of people don't this. but we have 42 facilities all across the united states including the building that sitting in here in washington, d.c. so i have been traveling to visit those facilities. understand what they do and also meet with staff. you talked about in your hearing veterans records and how that was going to be one of your top priorities. can you explain backlog, how it happened and does it stand today? yes, there was a large backlog that had accumulated the pandemic because many of our requests for, veteran's records, whe

outside of and i was to see a very smattering of the gifts were given to president obama and michelle obama while they were in and i know president obama was a big sports fan so he got a lot of sports jerseys that were signed. i grew up in pittsburgh, so it was really heartwarming to see that the pittsburgh steelers had a football for obama. each of them, including coach tomlin and was able to see that gift. have you traveled much around the country to see different sites? i have. i have been on the road a lot since. taking office in may, and that's because a lot of people don't this. but we have 42 facilities all across the united states including the building that sitting in here in washington, d.c. so i have been traveling to visit those facilities. understand what they do and also meet with staff. you talked about in your hearing veterans records and how that was going to be one of your top priorities. can you explain backlog, how it happened and does it stand today? yes, there was a large backlog that had accumulated the pandemic because many of our requests for, veteran's records, whe

who could he, this issue of michel obama is still being discussed, no, i’m generally sure that we will who, who who will replace him, now, you know, maybe, to be honest, a situation will arise where, in general, the problem will be so acute that... all these internal things, internal factors, will fade into the background, the sixties and the seventies, because well, yes, because because in america, well, usually, because now for the americans, for the american establishment, in principle, it is necessary to solve the problem, they got themselves into everything they could, you know, also now seriously add north korea, the fifties, here you have a conflict with two, no, with two powers, major ones, the third is not a power, a third country, i wouldn’t know , because if we are talking about military potential, if we are talking about the military-industrial complex, about the army about the degree of preparedness and determination, then we have a very conventional idea that maybe north korea, there may be an army there at least, north korea alone cannot leave the united states, but we a

>> it's pretty hard to imagine who that person would be at this moment if they could recruit michelle obama to win, then i think they'd have a real fighting chance. but i think the odds of that happening are quite low and so i think that folks that they are approaching are taking a really hard look at it because the likelihood is not that they're going to go down in history as the first person to win, but that they're likely to be seen as jill stein 2.0 and somebody who helped divide the pro-democracy coalition that democrats need to keep trump away from a second term. and i think that there's a lot of folks that would be really uneasy about being part of that. >> so if i hear you correctly, you're you're good with the grass roots or slow nurture of a party that rises up and then eventually has enough supporters, if you will, or people to become an actual viable party. i mean, we don't have power sharing in this country. so i just wonder, you know, what needs to happen for there to truly be a good third choice that's viable for the people of this country? >> well, i think options like ranke

yeah. >> british do you country's michelle obama.eah. >> that british do you country's michelle obama. yeah. >> that there's3ritish do you country's michelle obama. yeah. >> that there's going do you country's michelle obama. yeah. >> that there's going do yoa think that there's going to be a landslide for labour? >> i'm. i don't know. so in scotland, which is i'm scotland, which is where i'm from, was from, i'm they had the it was rutherglen and hamilton and typhoid margaret typhoid mary margaret ferrier that with . do you that was that woman with. do you know something. right. even a woman above that. she went on a train with covid. why would you dye that she dye your hair that dark? she just she just looked so hellish like she really did need to focus on the question. well, no, no. question. well, no, no, no, no. i labour got i am. but then. so labour got in, but it wasn't a huge aim. i think it was like about 30,000 of the electorate. so where massive are they labour really. >> no, i think they're on the rise, to be quite honest

yeah. >> british do you country's michelle obama.eah. >> that british do you country's michelle obama. yeah. >> that there's3ritish do you country's michelle obama. yeah. >> that there's going do you country's michelle obama. yeah. >> that there's going do yoa think that there's going to be a landslide for labour? >> i'm. i don't know. so in scotland, which is i'm scotland, which is where i'm from, was from, i'm they had the it was rutherglen and hamilton and typhoid margaret typhoid mary margaret ferrier that with . do you that was that woman with. do you know something. right. even a woman above that. she went on a train with covid. why would you dye that she dye your hair that dark? she just she just looked so hellish like she really did need to focus on the question. well, no, no. question. well, no, no, no, no. i labour got i am. but then. so labour got in, but it wasn't a huge aim. i think it was like about 30,000 of the electorate. so where massive are they labour really. >> no, i think they're on the rise, to be quite honest

alive, and joe biden also alive, he’s just kind of alive, yes, but the point is that gavin nusom, michelle obaman be pulled out as surrogates for his presidential campaign. make them the personification of all this, and biden himself will be relaxing somewhere on the beach at this time, that is , theoretically this can be done, but another thing is that of course voters may not like this, so joe biden will lose the election, so, but again, at the moment he is collecting a record number donations, that is, no one else is collecting from him, well, donald trump is trying to compare with him, of course, that’s why i really wouldn’t rule it out, and even moreover, i consider it quite likely that the scenario of repeating the elections of the twentieth year, that is, a clash between biden and trump, let's see, we don't have long left, in fact , yes, that is, we shouldn't discount either of them either , we don't need to discount him, but there will be others, i think so, i think so, okay, well, yes, but i want to go back to the main events from my point of view with everything importance and despite

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it was $3.6 million for the michelle obama trail in georgia and $5 million for the hip-hop museum from senator schumer in new york. >> if you have a rock 'n roll museum that can't raise a million dollars and led zeppelin, you got the stones, you don't think any of those guys could pony up a couple of dollars? or hip-hop. run dnc can't throw down 50? ll can't throw down 50? you can't raise that money by the guys in the hall of fame? >> exactly. look. here's how it works. in the senate you had the retiring senator leahy chairman of appropriations earmarks $30 million to university of vermont. once he retires they rename the honors college where it went after him. he did it again $34 million earmark into the burlington international airport in the spring they renamed the airport after him. >> the whole state is going to be named leahy. just new hampshire and leahy right there. we are going to keep tracking this. pelosi $5 million for an elevator? take the stairs. how high could this thing go. it's a train station. it's not a monorail. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> so you know the

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they have to wait to convention then, of course, all talk is about bringing someone in, like michelle obama ready-made fund-raising apparatus very popular that would be very, very difficult for republicans, it could happen. yeah, it could happen, but, you know,, i mean, from the beginning i have been saying, not a shot that he is going to be the nominee only because of mental capacity where i was going with it lastly several months you are seeing democrats acknowledge when you see you know bill maher, maureen dowd david ignatius media encouraging joe biden to step aside i think the plan in place i don't know if gavin newsom but kelly going to be hard, to actually get kamala to say i don't want this they have to make it her idea because not going to fly to have gavin newsom, in california replace what could be first, woman president or black woman, running. liz: that is right. >> that would be a have heard one to sell to american public, that being said has been making rounds, i commend him coming on fox news, sharing what he might do that being said, we have, a gallon in places in los angel

they have a bad candidate, i don't want him to be replaced by gavin newsom or parachute michelle obamappy to watch them make this happen. >> emily: levity is fine, most americans are suffering deeply and 8-10 dipping into savings to pay for school supplies. lack of tone deafness and something like on hashtag mean girls day, talk about anti-bullying efforts and tell us what you accomplished. don't tell us what your 23-year-old intern brain iac idea showed. >> harris: that movie was made the year that intern was born, 2004. making reference to that is why he looks cool. that does take a million dollars. they call robert f. kennedy jr. the one who is outside the norms. how is this normal? go to r.f.k. jr.'s twitter feed right now and you see him talking about issues, talking about people who are about to find out what their mortgages are going to be like if they try to buy a dream home after working and saving. who is talking about the stuff that matters and who is trying to be cool with a movie made 19 years ago? anybody? >> emily: great point. 99% of homeownership is inaccessible toern

. >> sardonic kaylee mcghee white on remember michelle obama and her girlfriend holding up the sideswhere are the celebrities saying release the hostages? we dig into that and get ready to get fired up top of pr.styl ♪ you want to be able to provide your child with the tools or resources they need. with reliable internet at home, through the internet essentials program, the world opened up. fellas, fellas. that's how my son was able to find the hidden genius project. we wanted to give y'all the necessary skills to compete with the future. kevin's now part of this next generation of young people who feel they can thrive. ♪ ♪ nice footwork. man, you're lucky, watching live sports never used to be this easy. now you can stream all your games like it's nothing. yes! [ cheers ] yeah! woho! running up and down that field looks tough. it's a pitch. get way more into what you're into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. here's why you should switch fo to duckduckgo on all your devie duckduckgo comes with a built-n engine like google, but it's pi and doesn't spy on your searchs and duc

as ben points out a lot of people suspect that it's former president obama, michelle obama, the entirew so many throughout his administration that they're really the ones running the country and this agenda. you can always discern a president's priorities by how they spend their time and this president, with the world aflame, with the country in collapse has decided to spend his time on barbecues like he did sunday afternoon, junk fees, illegal student loan scheme, bidenomics an epic catastrophe for everyone, that is how he is spending his time plowing through. when you look at the agenda and you see this presidency as an historic catastrophe. you realize any normal politician would have changed course by now say on the border or on the inflationary economic policies. this president has not changed course at all. and that tells you that no matter what is happening around him, no matter what is falling apart around him, he is plowing through because that is what he has been told to do to achieve an ultimate objective which is what president obama once called the fundamental transformati

different strokes and uses that catchphrase so i think first ladies can be an important part and michelle obama had the let's move campaign. and i think the first ladies can have a big deal. laura bush started the reading festival. and that continues to this day. i think first ladies have a great capacity to advance culture. they usually aim for elevated types of culture and they are trying to convey messages that try to make us better as a nation. >> i think many of the ladies appeared on sesame street. dr. biden only appeared so you see them popping up. and usually they get better as a nation. hopefully things we can all agree on. >> first ladies for the most part are less partisan. >> thank you so much for this conversation. >> if you are enjoying american history tv sign up for our newsletter using the qr code on your screen to receive the weekly schedule of upcoming programs like lectures in history, the presidency and more. sign up for the american history tv newsletter and be sure to watch american history tv every saturday or every time online at cspan.org/history. >>>

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the other piece that as we know and especially michelle obama, the first lady was extraordinarily articulatethat disconnection a socioeconomic educational perspective of young people coming from the south side of chicago and then being expected to go into the workforce of a larger more highly educated venue and not necessarily having the background of those social cultural language if you will to make that jump. it sounds to me like this is a perfectse opportunity and bring those young people in from chicago via the gateway of this smallis branch into this extraordinary venue. that would also retie in the wonderfule work both of the obama's have done with young people and they are envisioning for development of youngha peop. that is all i've got for. >> or absolutely rate. how will people come into our libraries how they start their career with us. it needs to be very accessible. working in chicago is one of those things i feel we have done such an incredible job of growing people. people going to art city colleges,at going to chicago stapler that is something we are going to continue to do

, michelle obama is a man, she , unlike camela, is popular, leave, leave a little time for your anniversary of the rebellion. and they had to lead federal troops, because they killed a lot of people there, and about kamel herris, well, let's look at barack obama, all the candidates promoted by the democratic establishment, well , of us minorities, they are still absolutely controllable and strictly subordinate, they know their place, do theirs, i don’t believe in controlled chaos, i know that it exists and chaos is always uncontrollable, only if some very smart people know how to manage it, there are no such people in the usa now , so america will go through a period of the current uncontrollable chaos, then a period of order will come, unfortunately for the democrats there will be a very strict authoritarian order, in a different way no way, this is the next stage in the development of america, i am close to the current thesis of alexey sergeevich, that all these are some kind of leftist ideas converted, i’m still waiting for these black people to start screaming, all the autho

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