murase. >> yes, i had one question and then i did get a response from michelle parker on the gender balance issues. my one question is are any of these five renewals, are they people who have been seated in this position before? >> dr. murase, no, none of these individuals have served on this committee before. >> okay. and then for the benefit of my colleagues, i want to list jenny [speaker not understood], co-chairs, [speaker not understood], and [speaker not understood] walton. so, that would leave the gender balance, if they were adopted, of three women to eight men. and if there is a compelling reason why a particular man should be appointed, i would really like to know that. but three women to eight men to me is not a 3satisfactory gende balance on this kind of body. [laughter] >> yes, ours is appropriate. [laughter] >> yeah, right. i want to thank board members for their input. >> [speaker not understood]. >> all right, enough mumbling. so, what i count is i count a majority of board members that are either prepared to vote no on all of these nominees or are prepared to vote no or not