joined by jake ward, michelle quinn. going back to that video, of all of the people packing the a.s.t. center, if you walked through the s.a.p. center, are you thronged or is it like kids and peewee football and joe namath walked by, who is that old guy. >> it's the latter, the old guy. funniny thing is, fresh was my handle in games. they named the champion after me in the game that they were playing in. >> really? >> at the s.a.p. center. >> ever -- >> most people don't know. majority don't know. which is funny. >> you're in the guinness book of world records, right, as the first great champion of back in the doom and the quake days. you're in the guinness book of world records for a video game. >> right. when i was playing, there was no such thing as professional video gaming. it fell into my lap literally. >> how was that possible? how could you make a living doing that? >> the "wall street journal" made it possible. they featured -- wrote a story onion line gaming, which was new, and decided to feature me in it, i wa