chancellor michelle reed, and joel klein saying the same thing.n saying how do we measure success? put the standardized tests in place. you the union versus the democrats. their in-fighting on this one. i think it's embarrassing, greg, that the teachers, with these students that have such poor scores, i mean some of them here, 20% of the eighth graders in public schools are 14% below the national average. they expect a raise. they're getting one. rahm tried to give them a 16% raise over four years in a down economy, i don't care if i'm a republican, democrat, anybody, i'd be ticked off at that. >> greg: bob, here is what i am concerned about. they are angry, even if they win this strike, do you think they will be unbiased when they teach the students about what went on? is the strike the least of our worrys? is their attitude in the classroom? that bugs me. >> eric: you know, i'm -- >> bob: i'm a strong union supporter, strong supporter of teachers unions. having said that, the idea they're not willing for a long time, i have supported means teste