i'm michelle roberts. why some say it's causing more confusion than anything else. >> i'm in oakland where we just spoke with warriors president about the team's big announcement. a lot of money spent on land just today. the story coming up. >>> and good afternoon. i'm meteorologist jeff ranieri. another hot fall day with 93 degrees in mt. diablo. blue sky, but that's going to be changing. tracking a chance of showers in the microclimate forecast, and details in a few minutes. >> then at 6:00, what if you car could work more like a plane? tesla owners are about to find out, with the new auto pilot feature will do so drivers won't have to. that's new at 6:00. ths might be the most talked about real estate deal of the >>> okay, this might be the most talked about real estate deal of the year. the warriors just bought the land that will soon house their new waterfront arena. at least that's the plan. today, the team announced it acquired 12 acres of prime real estate. take a look, in mission bay, just a few b

. >>> i'm michelle roberts live at the space station. the best seat in the house to see the great pumpkin tonight. coming up here, what scientists are saying about that asteroid flying by. animal rescuers in one east bay city are on alert. they're worried someone is >>> animal rescuers in one east bay city are on high alert. they're worried someone is trying to trap and harm feral cats this weekend. all this because of a threatening flyer that went out. nbc bay area's christie smith is live in antioch with more. the flyer says it's from the city's animal services division, but it says it's never seen it. >> yeah, we spoke with a supervisor, and they say they don't know where it came from. they're only aware of one flyer. we went to a block and two neighbors they say they believe the flyer may have been stuffed in their mailbox. we also spoke with a cat advocacy group in antioch. they do trap within the guidelines for feral cats. they're concerned for a number of reasons including that it's so close to halloween. they duck in and out of b

nbc bay area michelle roberts is outside uber headquarters in san francisco where there was a rally earlier today. michelle. >> reporter: that's right. the rally has wrapped up. i've been keeping an eye on the app. it was about a four minute wait. now it's only two minutes. looks like it hasn't been affecting service too much. it's really about opening up the dialogue with the company. >> there comes a point where enough's enough. >> reporter: former uber driverer has organized the boycott that he calls the beginning of the conversation between drivers and uber executives. >> they left about 7 to 10 cent a mile profit which is below minimum wage. >> a tip option is also on the demand list. some riders say they are open to paying a little extra for quality service. >> in the fares go up, i might not use it. >> reporter: they say we always welcome feedback from driver partners. it went on to be say drivers value the flexibility and the chance to be their own boss. protesters are hoping for negotiations in the future. they have no plan to add a tip option and they don't expect the protest to a

nbc bay area's michelle roberts is there. michelle, what happened? >> reporter: essentially x-rated material played over the loud speaker. a very awkward day. it was mommy and me day at the westgate shopping center. people say it was packed when it happened. >> what is going on at target right now? >> reporter: gina young's grocery run with her two boys was cut short yesterday when an x-rated soundtrack blasted through the speakers inside this target store in san jose. her 3-year-old boy started crying. and parents with older children started asking questions about who is making those noises and why. >> just kept saying why are they hurting a lady? it's okay, everything's okay, it's just pretend. >> reporter: bethany curren says that pretending played in every aisle for about 15 minutes and she says it was filled with racist and sexist language. >> i just kept looking around and seeing all these employees laughing, getting their phones out, not doing much. >> reporter: bethany says a store manager did apologize when the porn stopped. in a statement t

nbc bay area's michelle roberts is live in downtown san jose with how other restaurants in the area are responding to this outbreak. michelle? >> reporter: yeah, other restaurant owners say they're listening to health department asking their employees to wash their hands. the new information today, the health department saying this has spread to the east bay with six cases in alameda county bringing the total amount of cases reported to 115. san juan number 3 has been closed since sunday. investigators are still trying to identify patient zero behind the shigella outbreak. >> we are still receiving reports from health care providers of people who are ill and will continue to update our case counts. >> reporter: the illness causing diarrh diarrhea, fever and vomiting reached four bay area counties including santa clara, alameda, san mateo and santa cruz. the illness has sent 12 people to the icu for treatment. >> it's quite contagious and it doesn't take very many individual organisms to get ill. >> reporter: so far a total of 30 cases have been confirmed. including at least one child. a

michelle roberts joins us at one of those banks. what's the scam here? >> well, police unfortunately say it's really easy to do, especially if customers are distracted. if you have your cell phone out, you're not looking at the people around you who may be looking over your shoulder and getting ready to access your account. police say these bank of america atms downtown san leandro have been the target for so-called skimmers and shoulder surfers. more than $9,000 have been stolen from customers since may. >> as part of an undercover operation, police have arrested two people, including 23-year-old blake cutrel for peering over people's shoulders and stealing their money as they walk away. >> you think you're done and you're not really done, they reaccess your account and take cash out. >> the lieutenant says these bank of america atms don't end your transaction when your card is removed like some banks do. meaning if you forget to press cancel, your account will be open and unattended if you walk away. >> i also know that the bank of america has other re

reporting in san jose, michelle roberts, nbc bay area news. >>> more fallout today from the murder suspect who tried to turn himself in at the santa clara county jail but was allegedly turned away by a correctional deputy. the person chairing the blue ribbon commission investigating the troubled jail says she's concerned about this latest incident. nbc bay area's damian trujillo spoke with the chairperson today and is live at the county jail with more. >> reporter: those are the doors the inmate allegedly went into and was told to go to the police d department down the street instead. as the blue ribbon commission prepares to investigate troubling allegations at the jail, the head of that commission told me this incident will be near the top of her agenda. the incident happened monday morning. the sheriff's office says hugo castro walked into the jail lobby and told a correctional deputy he wanted to tell him the location of a body. deputy allegedly told castro to walk over to the san jose police department instead and tell them. san jose police detained castro immediately then booked him

michelle roberts, nbc bay area news. >> thank you. >>> a follow-up to a story in heyward involving an aide at a school accused of having a sexual relationship with a 12-year-old student. tonight, that aide is out of jail for the 1st time in two years. after a jury found her not guilty. mia cummings worked at after after school program. please claim she was involved with the boy for time-owo years starting when he was 12 years old. the jury debated for a day and a half. her lawyer said she never had a physical relationship with the boy. >> in the newsroom, busted and booked. a 17-year-old student at pinole high school. he's accused of distributing drugs on campus last week. seven snunts overdosed on the prescription drug xanax. five of them ended up in a local high school. pinol police are not releasing the name of the suspect because he's a minor. >> a shift tonight for republicans in the race for the white house. billionaire donald trump is no longer the front runner. in a new poll, retired neurosurgeon ben carson topped the gop field. the jolt to the top of the gop race comes as 14

michelle roberts is live outside uber headquarters in san francisco. this could make it pretty tough to get an uber this weekend. >> yeah, and i'm putting it to the test right now. the protest started about 15 minutes ago. i checked my uber app then and now. it seems like the same number of drivers in this area at least. people out here today tay say they know it's not going to make a huge dent, but they hope it's the start of negotiations. a couple dozen uber drivers chanted and called for higher wages outside uber headquarters this afternoon. >> there comes a point where enough is enough and we have to make a stand and fight for our rights. >> a former uber driver has organized what he calls the nationwide strike to send uber a message. the group is calling for fares to increase by 60%. >> drivers are getting about 7 to 10 cents profit, which is below minimum wage. >> also, a request to include a tip option for passengers. some drivers say they're open to paying extra for quality service. >> i feel like it has stopped from receiving credit for their

reporting live, michelle roberts, nbc bay area news. >> it would have been much worse. thanks, michelle. >>> new at 5:00, investigators say there is a cession between the suicide of a guest and an attack on an employee at the same san francisco hotel. the san francisco mareiate marquise called police on sunday afternoon to report a missing female employee. her coworkers later found her in the hotel's penthouse brutally beaten and unconscious. detectives say evidence found in the room links her attack to a guest who committed suicide earlier in the day. no word on a motive. it's being handled by the special victims unit. >> follow up on the cat snatcher. robert farmer faced a judge and a courtroom packed with cat owners. some outraged that the judge granted him bail. the prosecutors say this is farmer in surveillance video seen taking a cat from a front yard. police found a dead cat in his car, too, when they arrested him last week. >> they say that you're innocent until proven guilty. i'm telling you, you're found with a dead cat in your car, that's -- >> farmer is charg

nbc bay area's michelle roberts joins us now. you met with the investigators there. tonight we're learning more about the suspect and he's identified as 38-year-old dan trujillo and police say he's in his home behind me with his elderly parents and police are still on the scene investigating what exactly happened here. around 1:30 this afternoon someone called 911. when police arrived they say the suspect was outside and not cooperating with officers in the arrest. they say trujillo stabbed his elderly parents several times with a night. did i speak with neighbors who say they have lived here for more than one year and they have never noticed any signs of trouble with the family. >> pretty shocking because that is a very nice household and a very nice family. >> investigating the scene and trying to determine what happened and make sure that you have the full story and our story with the story that's being given to us and matches up with the evidence that we locate. >> vargas elementary school just down the street was briefly put in a shelter in case and a kill and a

michelle roberts is live outside the social services building in san jose where she worked. michelle, this is potentially he will bearsing. >> reporter: she says she's so embarrassed which is why she won't go back to work. she's on medical leave after receiving this letter saying all her information was shared by mistake on an e-mail lister. >> she's seven years from retirement after working for santa clara county for 17 years. now she says she can't face her co-workers in the social services department. >> they'll make fun of me or they're talking approximate me. don't hire her, because she's got this condition or that condition. >> she's requested we not use her first name or show her face. but she wants her story to be heard. in june, this letter was received notifying her that her personal and medical information was accidentally e-mailed to 100 of her co-workers, including her supervisors. >> my medication i'm on. my diagnosis. things like that. it's just like i don't want everybody to know. that's not anybody's business but mine. >> williams and her lawyer, charles bonn

michelle roberts has her story. >> it's been hell. >> reporter: she says she's seven years away from retirement after working for santa clara county for 17 years. she says she can't face her co-workers in the social services department. >> they make fun of me. they're talking about me. they're saying don't hire her because she has got this condition or that condition. >> reporter: she's requested we not use her first name or show her face. but says she wants her story to be heard. in june she received this letter from the county notifying her her personal and medical information was accidently e-mailed to 100 of her co-workers. including her supervisors. >> my medication i'm on. my diagnosis. you know, things that like that. i don't want everybody to know that. that's not anybody's business but mine. >> reporter: williams and her lawyer have filed a lawsuit against the county seeking damages for the privacy violation. >> we can't give her back what has been taken from her. the only thing we can do now is to compensate her, have the county compensate her in a fair way so she can get a

reporting live in san jose, michelle roberts, bay area news. >> so tragic. thanks, michelle. a trio of drifters made a brief appearance in a packed courtroom. their trial is expected to be long and thorough. they faced a judge for the first time in san rafael. they are accused of killing a hiker and canadian backpacker in golden gate park. the personal items that they had on them that prosecutors say linked them to the two bay area murders. >>> a major child porn bust. he is a professor photographer. duane ackerman had thousands of child porn images at his home in the city. he was also taking up the upskirts videos of women. it appears many were secretly filmed near pier 39 japan town area of the city. >>> the man accused of torching a halloween display the a local walmart is behind bars. bail was set for a quarter million johns of antwan johnson of oakland, charged with arson. a shopper took this with his cell phone, walmart in san leandro. security guards tracked down johnson. he will make his first court appearance tomorrow. >>> a string of small earthquakes hit the ground

nbc bay area's michelle roberts has details and the mixed results thus far. >> so far so good. >> reporter: people visiting the new park in san jose have another option to cross the busy snell avenue. >> by now it's straight to the park and -- >> cam tran lives across the street to the park and he's noticed traffic slowing down where the high intensity crosswalk known as the hawk has been installed. >> certainly great for pedestrians. it will allow for access to the park which we're excited about. >> san jose city councilman says the crosswalk is part of the city's bureau project planned to -- last year 21 people were killed while walking along san jose streets. >> it's kind of helpful. but not really. >> reporter: they think as many drivers seem to be confused when a pedestrian presses a button, a yellow light comes on, followed by a red light which flashes until the pedestrian countdown is complete. >> people are not getting used to it because they're never used to stopping here. >> reporter: several drivers didn't see the lights or chose not to stop. educating drivers may take time. >>

and that's where nbc bay area's michelle roberts found some parents having some unexpected birds and bees talk. >> reporter: yesterday just happened to be mommy and me day here at the westgate shopping center. parents say the store was packed when x-rated material started blasting on the loud speaker. now target says they are investigating. >> what is going on at target right now? >> reporter: jeanne young says everyone around her froze when this started playing. an x-rated sound track blasted through the speakers inside this target store in san jose. >> it was terribly awkward. >> reporter: she says she rushed her twin boys to the checkout with their food and waited for the x-rated sound effects riddled with offensive language to be shut off. >> and we're all standing there together listening to this horrible audio. like covering our kids' ears. >> reporter: her 3-year-old boy started crying. and parents said older children started asking questions about who was making those noises and why. >> they kept saying why are they hurting a lady. i'm like everything's okay. it's just preten

michelle roberts, nbc bay area news. >> thank you, michelle. >>> check this out. burglars blending in. this is a surveillance video from a home in san jose taken back in august just released today. you see there's a woman going at the front door with a guitar. can't really see it right there. there she is with the guitar. police say she's acting as a lookout. while she's at the front door an accomplice seen here goes around the back of the house. >> we noticed the way they're dressed, if you look at the video they're dressed like they belong in the neighborhood. they were acting like nothing is going on, like they belong there. >> police say the man entered the house through the back door, burglarized it and walked away. they say the pair then drove away in a red late model camaro. if you recognize the suspects you are asked to call san jose police. >>> not only in a galaxy far far away, the new "star wars" movie sold out nearly everywhere when it comes out in december. but ticket buyers in the south bay have a piece of technology that's going for them. and them o

michelle roberts is live outside the walmart in san leandro with more on what happened. michelle, some frightening moments for shoppers today. >> yeah, really scary and bizarre what happened here this afternoon. the store has opened. it opened about an hour ago. still many people checking out the damage inside. take a look at the cell phone video. this was shot about 1:30 by a shopper inside. you can see halloween costumes on fire and smoke filling the store. you can see walmart employees using fire extinguishers to contain the flames and store security detained the suspect until police arrived. >> he was taken to the hospital as a precaution and has been arrested on suspicion of arson. he's described as a 40-year-old man from oakland but his name has not been released. officers say he was seen inside the store about three hours before the fire started with a container of lighter fluid in a shopping cart. investigators believe he leaked the fluid throughout the walmart and then sprayed it on the costume aisle before setting it on fire. i spoke to the man who shot the cel

nbc bay area's michelle roberts shows us how undercover officers are getting involved. >> yes, that does worry me. >> reporter: atm users say they plan to be more vigilant after hearing that thieves have stolen more than $9,000 from customers at two bank of america atm locations in san leandro since may. as part of an undercover operation police have now arrested two people including 23-year-old blade kittrell from oakland for peering over people's shoulders and swooning in to keep using your account. >> you walk away and not really done and reaccess your account and take cash out. >> reporter: lieutenant mcman nis says these bank of america atms don't end your transactions when your card is removed like some banks do. meaning if you forget to press cancel or end your transaction, your account will stay open after you walk away. >> i also know that the bank of america has other reports from customer who is have not reported to the san leandro police that their accounts have been defrauded as well. >> reporter: bank of america wouldn't comment on the investigation but did issue a statemen

nbc bay area's michelle roberts has her story. >> it's just been -- >> reporter: miss williams says she's seven years away from retirement after working for santa clara county for 17 years. now she says she can't face her co-workers in the social services department. >> i'm afraid they'll make fun of me or they're talking about me or saying don't hire her because she's got this condition or that condition. >> reporter: she's requested we not use her first name or show her face but says she wants her story to be heard. in june williams received this letter from the county notifying her that her personal and medical information was accidentally e-mailed to 100 of her co-workers including her supervisors. >> what medication i'm on, my diagnosis, you know, things like that i don't want everybody to know. that's not anybody's business but mine. >> reporter: williams and her lawyer have filed a lawsuit against the county seeking damages for the privacy violation. >> we can't give her back what has been taken from her. the only thing we can do now is to compensate her, have the county compensate

nbc bay area's michelle roberts is live outside san juan in downtown san jose. the restaurant linked to the illness and other restaurants are now being extra vigilant. >> reminding employees to wash their hands as often as they can. health officials say the majority of people who got sick all ate here on friday or saturday. and in some cases, those people passed it along to family members, which is why nearly a week later, this is still spreading. >> it's quite contagious. and it doesn't take very many individual organisms to get ill. >> reporter: investigators with the santa clara county health department are still trying to identify patient zero behind the shigella outbreak. today officials confirmed the illness has spread to the east bay. alameda county now has six confirmed cases. all linked to marisco san juan in san jose. >> we're still receiving reports of people who are ill. >> reporter: the illness causing diarrhea, fever, and vomiting as reached four bay area counties include santa clara, alameda, san mateo and santa cruz. the illness has sent 12 peopl

reporting live, michelle roberts, nbc bay area news. >> thank you. >>> we'll take a look. how did this happen. live pictures from union city. crews are trying to determine what caused a large sinkhole. witnesses say it started in a divot in the pavement around 11:00 this morning. about an hour later, it turned into a hole as large as an suv. this is between fair ranch road and new haven street. this is alvuroddo middle school. >> i walked down here and to my surprise, i saw a sinkhole, which is surprising to see because i drive this road every day. >> it is surprising to see. thankfully, no one was hurt. they're using a robotic camera to see if the sanitation lines were impacted. there's a fire station at the intersection, but the fire engines are still able to get out and respond to calls. it will impact the middle school. parents are advised to check out the website for more information. >> just in, a professional photographer is behind bars for taking thousands of photos and videos showing child pornography. police arrested duwayne ackerman. police also found hundreds o

reporting live in san jose, michelle roberts, nbc bay area news. >> a lot of help is needed. thanks. >>> in other news, baben and hotdog lovers beware. a stunning new report says processed meat causes cancer. the world health organization is so sure about its findings, it put processed meat in the same category as tobacco and asbestos. they say the risk is not as high as cigarettes, but the risk is real. eating more than 50 grams of processed meat a day, less than two slices of bacon, increased the risk of colorectal cancer by 18%. >> they computed that consumption of processed meat is car sinogenic to humans and this was based primarily on strong evidence that consumption of processed meat caused colorectal cancer. >> regular meats like steak, lamb, and lean meets are a risk but lower ones. the meat industry is crying foul. the national cattlemen's beef association says, quote, billions of dollars have been spent on studies all over the world, and no single food has ever been proven to cause or cure cancer. nutrition experts say don't stop eating meat. cut out or cut down pr

michelle robert, nbc bay area news. >> thank you. >> san jose supermarket is back open after being shut down for pests. the health department found a rodent infestation in the market on north capital. they found the problem in a routine inspection. supermarket reopened this morning. santa klara health department said the health inspectors went and found the problem had been dealt with. >> now, to a developing story. five girls in the last month. that's how many were nearly kidnapped in berkeley. the first incident happened just before 6:00 p.m. monday at college and webster. that's where police say a man approached a girl and tried to ger her into his van. 15 minutes later, it happened again in the same area, three other girls. investigates believe the two incidents are similar to one that happened last month on telegraph avenue. ceoffi have now beefed up patrols. >> new at 5:00, an east bay family breathing a sigh of relief this evening after a little boy disappeared from school. police say he ran away from stone bury elementary in heyward around 10:30 this morning. he turned up at mcd

reporting in san jose, michelle roberts, nbc bay area news. >>> a vigil for a young murder victim ascused killer was back in court today. family and friends of 8-year-old maddie middleton held signs outside the courthouse. inside the courthouse, adrian gonzales appeared to set his next court date. supporters of the middleton family say they will keep pushing for people to focus on young maddie and not the 15-year-old suspect. >> we want her face to be seen. and we want people to remember that this could have been anybody. >> reporter: gonzales is being tried as an adult for the rape and murder of the little girl at the santa cruz apartment complex back in july. he will return to court in february. >>> the speaker of the house, congressman and honorable paul ryan. >> thank you. >>> seeing nancy pelosi there, a big transition in congress today as wisconsin congressman paul ryan steps up as the new house speaker. he quickly acknowledged the difficulties of this job especially in the political climate. speaker ryan admits the house is broken. >> we're not solving problems. we're adding t

reporting live, michelle roberts, bay area news. >> that cannot be said enough. wash your hands. meanwhile, a san jose supermarket is back open today after being shut down for rodents. the health department recently found an infestation on north cap capital. it was found during a routine inspection. the supermarket reopened this morning. santa clara health department says inspectors went back and found the problems have been addressed. >>> you can check a restaurant's health records before you eat there. santa clara county has the dine-out app. you can download it and see how any restaurant in the county did with inspections and what kind of problems they found. you can see the score they were given. 100, by the way, is the highest. >>> these new pictures just into the newsroom show the moment a mother was reunited with her 8-year-old son with autism. he ran away from an elementary school this morning at 10:30ment he turned up at mcdonald's about five miles away. more than three hours later. chuck coppola is live with more. how did the boy manage to slip away? >> reporter: this i

michelle roberts tells us why this great pumpkin is creating a frenzy. >> reporter: when most of us are going to sleep -- >> i was up here last night tracking this asteroid. >> reporter: gerald mac keegan is starting his work at the space and science center in oakland. >> it's moving pretty fast. you can see the asteroid moving across the sky. >> reporter: last night he took pictures of the great pumpkin. the asteroid first spotted three weeks ago estimated to be a bit larger than the oakland coliseum. >> very exciting. we're going to watch for that tonight. >> reporter: exciting and a bit spooky since it's going past the earth tonight. scientists are calling the fly-by a near miss. the asteroid is 30% farther than the moon. it's moving fast and heading in the earth's direction. >> had its orbital characteristics been slightly different it would have hit us. >> reporter: scientists say the great pumpkin isn't a threat but if it were, would a hollywood-style rescue mission and some dynamite be able to save sinus. >> if you blew it apart, it would just make lots of little things showering

roberts asked their guests not to mention davis at their wedding. the d.c.rry will visit area this week. he will join first lady michelle obama and dr. jill biden wednesday. they will meet recovering service members at fort belvoir. he will also attend a reception at the british ambassador's home in the district. it appears that jimmy fallon is very accident prone. he hurt his right hand after tripping and falling on broken glass at an event at harvard university saturday. he was treated and released from the hospital. in august he chipped a tooth some hairied to open gel, and had a previous injury an his right hand after freak accident in his kitchen. a well-deserved honor for our own chief meteorologist doug hill, receiving the silver circle award. it is one of the chapter most prestigious awards for broadcasters, and doug has reached that mark. we will show you his interesting ath to his career as meteorologist. he was sharing that story with me recently. wow, you would never expect he had a background in law enforcement. guy, fromng a local the area, love to see the success. we both know this, but longevity like that in televisio

michelle obama was asked that even before the nomination. so it was a little of both. it was a complement to the great society, and it was also uniquely hers. cokie robertsbut the first ladies who have succeeded her, particularly both michelle obama and laura bush, have said -- have quoted her that she has said, you know, i realized -- and i think that's part of what betty was saying. you know, it took her a while, and she had to have that big landslide, that she was no longer the heir to the job. but she said, "i realized, i had a pulpit and i could use it, and i could use it to do good." and and she determined that she was going to do that. and they have taken those words and followed them very consciously quoting her. betty boyd caroli: rosalynn carter also has made a point. and remember that she continued that work after -- the beautification, if we want to use that terrible term. cokie roberts: right. betty boyd caroli: which she hated, also. cokie roberts: she hated it. betty boyd caroli: but she continued it after she left the white house, i think until 1990, which is whatever it is, 22 years after leaving the white house, she continued to give th

michels, in san francisco. >> woodruff: on the newshour online: the pope has a new advisor and he's a rabbi. rabbi robert was one of more than 4,000 people who submitted jokes through a contest called "joke with the pope." alper will now carry the honorary title of "comedic advisor" to pope francis. along with the title, alper was awarded $10,000 to donate to one of three charities. read more about the contest, and the joke that won it, on our home page: pbs.org/newshour. and now an update on a story we reported in july. it centered on the university of phoenix and how the for-profit school targeted active duty military and veterans. this week the pentagon put the school on probation. they will not be allowed on bases to recruit or attend career fairs. and no new students will be able to use tuition assistance from the defense department. you can watch our original report, done in partnership with reveal and the center for investigative reporting, on our website: pbs.org/newshour. tune in later tonight for "washington week." and tomorrow's newshour weekend looks at high speed rail in texas. that's the ne

roberts: good to be here. swain: betty boyd caroli is a first ladies expert. she is the author of numerous books, including "first ladies: from martha washington to michelle obama," and she's currently working on a new biography of lady bird johnson. ladies, i'd want to start with the beginning, with where we were 50 years ago this week. this is an administration birthed in national tragedy. what were the immediate challenges for the brand-new first couple on those first terrible days after the assassination of kennedy? roberts: well, they're enormous. first of all, nobody knew whether there was a widespread plot, and so the country was in terror for a period of time. and then they had to be both taking over -- and, i mean, making sure that there was a peaceful transition to power without seeming to take over, because of the image of pushing the other -- the kennedys out of the way, any of that, so they had to be very, very careful in how they handled it. and lyndon johnson was very lucky that he had lady bird to help him with that, because she has a good ear for knowing exactly what to say and when to say it. swain: and in particular, what did she do during th

robert luna. is that true in a late stage of a bull market if we are still in one? >> i think so, michelle. up to this point investors have been rewarded for outweighting momentum, high multiple stocks and it hasn't made a lot of sense to dig and tried to find value. after we've seen this big direction correction, some of the stocks that are beaten up, the deep discounted stocks, if you look at the russell today it's up .7% small cap value is now leading by a score of two to one. >> it would appear this rally is resulting from something related to the fed. welgt minutes out that show a very dovish stance, it didn't look like they were close to raising rates in september and the market is off again. guz that reflect what you are inclined to buy? are you going to go for those more inclined to benefit from lower interest rates, for example? >> not necessarily, bill. this is a situation where i'm not really surprised to see the stock rally. we work with the average american who saves all their life in their 401(k), small business owners getting ready to sell their position and they have come to