melinda and michelle rodriguez are still with us.rimes plot out on a broad continuum, a yes-no gisent give you a chance to -- doesn't give you a chance to plot out that it may not be that scary. >> you are right. that is why a good job application will have a yes-no, but room for an explanation. you know, what was the crime, when did it occur. when i talk with business owners i reiterate how important it is to make individualized assessments. you shut not discount someone checking off "i have a convictio conviction". what is the crime? a lot of business owners like to have that conversation. chance. they want to look the individual in the eye. >> before the break, it was pointed out how many tens of millions have this problem. this is not just a recidivism lowering social welfare project. this is something with severe economic consequences. if the futures of tens of millions of people are hindered. >> i appreciate that. but to put this in the back of small business owners is asking too much. the candidates that comes with a one size

honorable leon rodriguez, director of united states citizenship and immigration services. honorable michellehorn bond, assistant secretary of the bureau of conscioulate fairs ate united states department of state. and honorable ann richard, assistant secretary, pure of population research gees and migration, united states department of of state. we welcome you all and thank you for being here. pursuant to committee rules, all witnesses are sworn before they testify. if you will please rise and raise your right hand. do you solemnly swear is or affirm that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? thank you. please be seated. let the record reflect that the witnesses answered in the affirmative. in order to allow time for discussion, we would appreciate if you would please limit your oral testimony to five minutes. the entire written written, the statement will be made part of the record. we'll do the four opening statements. and then when the opening statements for mr. cummings and then go to questions from mr. mr. burson, you are reco

the honorable leon rodriguez, director of united states citizenship and immigration services. the honorable michelebond, assistant secretary of the consular affairs at the united states department of state and the honorable anne richard commander of population refugees and migration to the united states department. we welcome the wall in thank you for being here. pursuant to committee votes, all witnesses are sworn before they testify. if you please rise and raise your right hands. do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to get will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? thank you. please be seated. but the record reflect the witnesses answered in the affirmative. in order to allow time for discussion, we would appreciate you please limit your testimony to five minutes. your entire written record statement will be made part of the record. we will do that for opening statements for mr. comments and then we will go to questions from there. you are now recognized for five minutes. >> good morning, mr. chairman, members of the committee. last time i had the pri

the honorable leon rodriguez, director of the united states citizenship and immigration services. the honorable michele bond, assistant secretary to have bureau of heir affairs at the united states department of state and the honorable anne richard, bureau of refugees and migration, the united states department of state. we welcome you all. thank you for being here. pursuant to committee rules, all witnesses are sworn before they testify. if you'll please rise and raids raise your -- raise your right hand. do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. thank you. please be seated. let the record reflect that the witnesses answered in the affirmative. in order to allow time for discussion, please limit your oral testimony to five minutes and the entire written record -- statement will be made pafert of the record. then we will go to agrees there. mr. bersin, you are now recognized for five minutes. >> good morning, mr. chairman, members of the committee. he last time i had the privilege of being here was to discuss the i

the honorable leon rodriguez, director of the united states citizenship and immigration services. the honorable michele assistant secretary of the bureau of consular affairs at the united states department of state, and the honorable anne richard, assistant secretary, bureau of population refugees and migration, the united states department of state. we welcome you all and thank you for being here. .. since 2001, since september 11, 2001, want to express the support and sympathy that i and my family feel, and i'm sure my colleagues on the panel share, and our colleagues across the federal service for the families of those killed in san bernardino. and for the families and the victims who were injured, 21 victims injured in that terrorist attack. our written testimonies in a statement submitted to the committee actually described in some detail the systems have been put in place for screening for terrorist travel. what i'd like to do in the four minutes i have left is to give you an overview to look at this system and the four major shaping factors have built a sense 9/11. and i point out that this is a