and so michener is conveying roosevelt's interpretation of world war ii.i'm not going to talk much about the movies. you can ask me about the movies because that would take all of next year's program probably to do that, that happy to talk about. it's talk about the memorials. now, some of you have gone to see the world war ii memorial in washington, d.c. you see the arches, the patriarchs and the atlantic and pacific. 400,000 american dead but they are represented by gold stars. so you don't get the griping of you don't get the trauma, you don't get the body parts, you get the gold star. that's the traditional view of the war. it's not that it is a wrong view, but it's not the only view. it wasn't the only view among those who fought the war in the '40s and '50s. when i was a kid in school, we used to have these covers on their school textbooks and they always had rendition of the iwo jima memorial in washington. there you've got these marines fused together in bronze raising the american flag and a victorious battle, a bloody battle at iwo jima as they m