when you talk to them behind the scenes, they're really worried about michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvaniatates that took trump over the top in 2016. they're trying to professionalize the operation with digital spending and put together this app to juice the president's base and make sure they're engaged so the people who didn't turn out in the midterms, to stay engaged in twe 2020 and turn out in large numbers in 2020. >> they can try and fail at some things. they can test the apps, test things, do some failing while the democrats are fighting it out. to your point in your piece today, democrats seem to be convinced that everybody learned what happened. you better be present in wisconsin, you better be present in pennsylvania, you better be present in michigan. are they sure about that? >> they may have learned it to a fault. the amount of time that the primary candidates are spending in those three states, which i've taken to calling the bermuda triangle of democratic politics, is really pretty striking given that none of them give you any delegates in the primary process until way after

data it also included discussion of battleground states which man afforded dandified is michigan wisconsin pennsylvania and minnesota isn't that correct a threat if your investigation determine who requested the polling data to be shared with the clinic. i would. direct you to the report and out what we have in the report it with regard to that particularly if we don't have the redacted version that's maybe another reason why we should get that for by him one based on your investigation how could the russian government have used this campaign polling data to further its sweeping and systematic interference in the 2016 presidential level but out of. a half fair enough. did your investigation find that the russian government proceeds it would benefit from one of the candidates winning yes and which candidate would that be. well it would be pretty trouble correct right now the trump campaign wasn't exactly reluctant to take russian help you wrote it expected it would benefit elect who are really from information stolen and released through russian efforts isn't that correct at wreck now was the investigat

this is not good news if you are in ohio, wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania.ou on the time portion. that is interesting to me. time is not on your side. what type of timetable are you referring to as when people -- we say when tariffs went from 10 to 25% if that happens, even more tariffs are put on you feel it. what do you mean by time is not on your side? >> let me give you an example. i spoke with a member company in central ohio the other day. they have been paying half a million dollars in tariffs since they came into effect, right? that is money normally they're using for r&d, new production lines, hiring more people. and you know, they have been able to absorb some of this because the economy is doing so well but the impact is still there under the surface. connell: at some point they're able to absorb? >> yes. connell: key point, obvious reiterated the president says they're paying it, china is not paying it. this company an american company is paying for it. i want to go to the president talking about manufacturing and manufacturing jobs on his watch.

president is facing today, morning consult poll showing his disapproval in swing states like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, ohio and florida, more higher disapproval than approval. 40% approval in michigan. this is a campaign event for him. those numbers don't look good. >> no, they don't. remember last time in 2016, he had to thread the needle in wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania. you look at the numbers and there is no longer an eye in that needle. it's closed. there is no way to get a piece of thread through there. he would either have to change those numbers dramatically or come up with another theory of how he gets to 270 electoral votes. i'm not sure how that would be. i'm fairly confident that what he is doing tomorrow is not a good start. i am biased. i live in the washington area. we feel certain ownership and a lot of pride in our fourth of july celebration on the mall. to have it sort of usurped in this way by any president to give a political speech is really an outrage. something that some of us have strong feelings about. maybe the president likes it that we have strong feelings, but we

michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania, sound familiar? captured the three states along with the 306 electoral votes in 2016 and he was carried over the finish line by those three states, michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. three states that democrats had won in every election going back to 1992. but the margins for trump were as razor thin as they could be. 78,000 votes combined in all three states. in pennsylvania he won by 44,000 votes and in wisconsin, nearly 23,000 votes and in michigan, less than 11,000 votes. and there might be a reason why trump won. turnout in the big urban counties which often produce big margins for democrats did not keep one counties in the rest of those three states. wayne county, michigan, the home of detroit produced 4% fewer votes in 2016 than it did in 2012. while the rest of the state produced 3% more votes. milwaukee produced 12% fewer votes and the rest of wisconsin saw a much smaller decline in turnout, just two points. in philadelphia, they actually produced 3% more votes in 2016 than they did in 201

>> if you have voters in wisconsin and pennsylvania and michigan staying out and they aren't energized again you repeat somewhat the model that happened in 2016, and that would be how trump secures a victory. at this point, though -- >> that's with hillary helping. come on, elise. wait a minute. let's talk politics. skip that for three seconds. the politics of '16 was a lot of african americans stayed home because they weren't as energized as they were for barack obama. it makes perfect sense historically. the other problem is a lot of people were tired of the clintons after 20 years and hillary clinton took the brunt of that. she took the brunt for her husband and everything else. we all know that. >> she was the receptacle of negative polarization in that election. is donald trump going to be that vehicle in 2020? as of now, it does seem like the democratic base is certainly motivated and primed to come out. you look at what happened in 2018 and how their turnout ballooned. certainly republicans had pretty strong turnout. but democrats widely surpassed it. so they're on good footing

win in places like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, we will end up in the same place.are have debates disconnected from the problems that families face in their everyday lives. we have to have answers for those americans. , running in i do montana, and also in governing. the things that struck us, and we have asked democrats about this. we had a discussion of providing health care to people who are undocumented coming from the southern border. for most americans, it doesn't affect them directly. one of the strengths donald trump had as a candidate, he was talking to people and saying -- this is how your life will be better. what can you do to the people of wisconsin and michigan, to tell them their life will be better? real wages have not increased. when i was growing up in the 1970's, 90% of 30-year-olds were doing better than their parents. today it is only half. we have to recognize, what president trump has done, he said that he would help everyone out along the way but folks are really not getting the gains. trillion dollar stock buybacks. that did not go to most

michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and minnesota. did he not, sir? >> that's reflected in the report. >> he hoped to be paid back money he was owed by russian or ukrainian oligarchs in return for the passage of private campaign thachgz. >>s that true. >> contacts with russians close to vladimir putin and efforts to exchange private information on americans for money left him vulnerable to black mail by the russians? >> generally so. that would be the case. >> several individuals were also trying to make moan during the campaign in transition? >>s that true. >> paul manafort was trying to achieve debt forgiveness? >> generally that is accurate. >> michael flynn was trying to make money from turkey? >> that is true. >> donald trump trying to make moan fre moscow. >> you are talking about the hotel in moscow? . >> yes. >> i was not sure what to expect from today's testimony. i think ag noft simple was warranted. even with that studious refuse am, you still could have knocked me over with a feather as lates last night if you told me that today we would g

in places like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, these are rust belt states that the democrats need to win and when you only lose by 78,000 votes in three states like hillary clinton did, that can make a difference when you have voter suppression. so these games being played, especially those on the right, should know matter. we're playing into our enemies' hands by this. especially online. >> bakari, do you want to respond to that? >> it's interesting how she couched the moment between joe biden and kamala harris, talking about someone's record, someone who is on the wrong side of history when you're talking about diametrically opposed to jesse jackson. diametrically opposed to ed brook and thurgood marshall in the issue of busing. i think it's relevant. but you've got to pivot and move forward. and one of the things we're talking about, while we're having this agenda, and this conversation about black voters and while we're having this conversation about what's superficial, i hope all 23, 24, 35 candidates, however many are still there, actually put forth an agenda to uplift the a

polling data and includes discussion of battleground states which manafort identified as michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and minnesota, isn't that correct? >> that's correct. >> is it your investigation determine who requested the polling data to be shared with kilimnik? >> i would direct you to the report. that's what we have in the report with regard to that particular issue. >> we don't have the redacted version. this may be another reason we should get thaovt havesed cpaign polling data to further its sweeping and systemic interference in the 2016 presidential election. >> that's a little bit out of our path. >> fair enough. did your investigation find that the russian government perceived it would benefit from one of the candidates win withinning? >> yes. >> which candidate would that be? >> it would be trump. >> correct. >> the president. >> now the trump campaign wasn't exactly reluctant to take russian help. you wrote it expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through russian efforts, isn't that correct? >> that's correct. >> now, was the investigation's deter

i think most importantly in the battleground states of michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, i think all of the polls i've seen have shown us to be ahead of trump. i think that says that we have got to take the lead. this campaign can beat trump. that's an important point i think most americans know. in terms of joe biden, look, i think that joe biden, joe has talked about his early days in the senate when things were civil. but underneath that so-called civili civility, there was an incredible oppression and ugliness and attacks against the african-american community. you see this when your congress people are so nice, how are you, how is your family. yet, they are supporting efforts that literally terrorized 30, 40 years ago the african-american community. it's one thing to work with people, i do, of all political differences. but it's another thing to boast about a civility which really masks some very ugly policies. >> senator bernie sanders, as always, it's a pleasure, sir. thank you for being with us. good luck out there. >> thank you. >> be safe on the trail. >>> joining me nfirst

. >> in the old days, i would have said michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania.ocratic governors all of them. they had got democratic years in 201, democratic senators, some one or two democratic senators in each state. they would get together in a room and figure outside who could we nominate from these states or an adjacent state who would be appealing. but the democratic front runners and biden is the closest to that coming from pennsylvania, otherwise it's vermont, massachusetts, california. makes me wonder if biden fades whether someone like sherrod brown from ohio gets in the race or a strong candidate to be vp. buttigieg maybe. the central part of america is something they need to focus on at some point. >> he's got to win the states. sa sahil, nice to see you. ahead a celebration, 50 years in the making. s in the making if you say so. ♪ ahead a celebration, 50 years in the making. e to see you ahead a celebration, 50 years in the making is that snapshot rewards safe drivers with discounts on car insurance. -what? ♪ -or maybe he didn't know. ♪ [ chuckles ]

data, it also included discussion of battle ground states which manafort identified as michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and minnesota. isn't that correct? >> that's correct. >> did your investigation determine who requested the polling data to be shared with kilimnik? >> well, i would direct you to the report. that's what we have in the report with regard to that particular issue. >> we don't have the redacted version. they may be another reason why we should get that from volume e. based on you investigatioeren ha used this campaign pollin data to further its sweeping and systematic interference in the 2016 presidential election? >> that's a little bit out of our path. >> fair enough. did your investigation find that the russian government perceived it would benefit from one of the candidates winning? >> yes. >> and which candidate would that be? >> well, it would be trump, the president. >> the trump campaign wasn't exactly reluctant to take russian help. you wrote it expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through russian efforts. isn't that correct? >> that's corr

manafort also discussed internal campaign strategy on four battleground states, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and minnesota. the russian intelligence linked individual. did he not, sir? >> that's reflected in the report, as were the items you listed previously. >> director mueller, based on your decades of years of experience at the fbi, would you agree, sir, it creates a national security risk when a presidential campaign sharm shares private polling information on the american people? private political strategy related to winning the votes of the american people and private information about american battleground states with a foreign adversary? >> is that the question, sir? >> yes, sir. >> i'm not going to speculate along those lines. to the extent it's within the lines of the report, i support it. anything beyond that is not part of that which i would support. >> i think it does, sir. i think it shows an infuriating lack of patriotism from the very people seeking the highest office in the land. director mueller, manafort didn't share this information in exchange for. >> i can't answer tha

manafort discussed internal campaign strategy on four battleground states -- michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and minnesota. but the russian intelligence intelligence-linked in visual. did not, sir? >> that is reflected in the report, the items you listed previously paid >> director mueller, based on your decades and years of experience at the u agree, sir, that it creates a national security risk when a presidential campaign chairman shares private polling information on the american people? private political strategy related to winning the votes of the market people, and private american battleground state information with the the for an adversary? >> is that the question, sir? >> yes, sir. >> i'm not going to speck of it along those lines. to the extent that it's within the lines of the report, than i it. i think beyond that, it's not part of that which i would support. >> i think it does, sir. i think it shows an infuriating lack of patriotism from the very people seeking the highest office in the land. director mueller, manda fort didn't this information for nothing. did he, sir? >> i c

as we speak we have organizers on the ground right now here in michigan because we won in places like michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsinocused on health care, we were focused on the issues people cared about. trump wasn't on the ballot but he was on the ballot and voters resurroundingly said we can do better and that's how we elected wonderful people. and we're going to be in milwaukee in less than a year. we're here today, and we're going to be competing here in michigan and across the industrial midwest and elsewhere. >> so are nights like tonight a nail-biter for you? and you watch everything up fold on the stage are you thinking please no food fight, please no food fight? >> i have an excitement. i've run for office, i've coached team sports, i continue to coach team sports, my 14th year coming up for at least one of my kids, and i have that same excitement because i think tonight people are going to see again that we have a deep bench. if people are looking for chair throwing and name-calling, you better turn the channel to jerry springer or something else because you're not going to see it here. >> the first deba

data and also include discussion of battleground states which man afforded an a fight is michigan wisconsin pennsylvaniaand minnesota isn't that correct that's right if your investigation determine who requested the polling data to be shared with clinic. i would. direct you to the report and out what we have in the report and with regard to that particularly when we do. and have the redacted version that's maybe another reason why we should get that for by human one based on your investigation how could the russian government have used this campaign polling data to further its sweeping and systematic interference in the 2016 presidential level but out of. half fair enough. did your investigation find that the russian government perceived it would benefit from one of the candidates winning yes and which candidate would that be. well it would be prim correct present now the drum campaign wasn't exactly reluctant to take russian help you wrote it expected it would benefit elect tourmalet from information stolen and released through russian efforts isn't that correct that's right now was the investigations

manafort also discussed internal campaign strategy on four battleground states, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and minnesota with the russian intelligence-linked individual, did he not, sir? >> that's reflected in the report. >> it's clear he hoped to be paid back money he was owed by russian or ukrainian oligarchs. >> that is true. >> would you agree, sir, that manafort's contacts with russians close to vladimir putin and his efforts to exchange private information on americans for money left him vulnerable to blackmail by the russians? >> generally so, that would be the case. >> several individuals associated with the trump campaign were also trying to make money during the campaign in transition, is that correct? >> that is true. >> paul manafort was trying to make money or achieve debt forgiveness from a russian oligarch? >> generally that is accurate. >> michael flynn was trying to make money from turkey? >> true. >> donald trump was trying to make millions from a real estate deal in moscow? >> to the extent you're talking about the hotel in moscow -- >> yes. >> yes. >> i will tell you, i

he won michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. collectively by about 75,000 votes.the midterms his party took a drubing especially in the suburbs in places like orange county and my home state of texas the suburbs of houston and dallas. and even in michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania so he is actually behind the 8 ball going into 2020 i think when you look mechanically at what he is facing in the states he barely won and the fact that he lost the popular vote so convincingly. one of the worst things we can do as democrats is scare ourselves out of focus on winning this election as possible and thinking he is going to be able to accomplish magic things in politics. he is not. he's not. i believe he has given us a real opening on legitimate grounds here because more and more people understand how divisive he is and people are yearning for leadership that makes an effort to bring people together instead of just speaking to the people that they consider their base. >> he might not be a goliath but he does do a good job at controlling the narrative. one narrative both

and that also included discussion of battleground states which manafort identified as michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. isn't that correct? >> that's correct. >> did your investigation determine who requested the polling data to be shared with kilimnik? >> well, i would direct you to the report. that's what we have the report with regard to that particular issue. >> we don't have the redacted version. that maybe is another reason why we should get that for volume 1. based on your investigation, how could the russian government have used this campaign polling data to further its sweeping and systematic interference in the 2016 presidential election? >> that's a little bit out of our path. >> fair enough. did your investigation find that the russian government perceived it would benefit from one of the candidates winning? >> yes. >> and which candidate would that be? >> well, it would be trump. >> correct. now, the trump campaign wasn't exactly reluctant to take russian help. you wrote it expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through russian efforts. isn't that corre

i'm talking about michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. david: great reporting. everybody should read this piece . now let's get a check on markets with abigail doolittle. abigail: let's get a check on sprint going up on the expected headline that the justice department would approve the deal with t-mobile. a major hurdle cleared after shares of dish were sold. t-mobile also up 3.5%. that is helping take stocks to session highs. let's take a look at major averages as well as the faang index. the dow is underperforming but has been negative before. the s&p 500 and nasdaq both an all-time highs. you can see the nasdaq outperforming with tech exposure , and the merrill lynch faang index up 2.4% helping explain the s&p and nasdaq doing better considering the greater weight. the big mover for the faang index is alphabet. we will see a beautiful pop higher on a strong quarter they put up. the stock is trading higher. you can see on pace for the best day since 2015. they beat estimates and revenue growth of 19% better than what had been estimated. alphabet is back on tr

and it's going to be in places like michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania.be an uphill battle for him. >> right. >> interesting point for me. i want your perspective, especially those of you who get out of washington more than me. trump has an enormous advantage. even if you're a trump all i and you don't like these racist tweet tweets, he doesn't have a serious primary challenge right now. democrats are fighting over every nuance and semi colon policy. 31% of their money on immigration, 17% of it talking about fake news. 0 on health care. 7% economy, 6% on mueller. 31% immigration tells you they believe the ground on which he ran in 2016 is the ground on which he's going to run on 2020. it's not just that they're spending the money now, they can watch the interaction, the commentary. they can watch what people on their list and people on their potential list are doing so they can, every day, test the 2020 general election out there in the digital space while the democrats are at war with each other. that is an enormous advantage. >> and combined with just t

michigan, wisconsin, ohio, pennsylvania and florida. explain that. >> yeah.limits to what democrats can say and advocate for and still get elected. generally, i don't think that candidates' orientation or identification as a progressive who wants to overhaul i.c.e. for example is disqualifying in the general election but running on a campaign of, you know, no border enforcement or abolishing private health insurance, yeah, that's probably disqualifying in a general election. but the key to who can win i believe is really empathy in addition to authenticity. who is weaving voters' personal struggles into the case for why they should be elected and that's what i find lacking on the democratic debate stage at the moment. >> you know, kasie hunt, we saw that in an extraordinary way in amy mcgrath's opening announcement where she was weaving her campaign effort into the struggles of a lot of different people in the state of kentucky. what can you tell us about amy mcgrath? i know you covered her some in the 2018 campaign. and looking forward, does mitch mcconnell

it also includes discussion of battleground states which manafort identified as michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and minnesota. >> that's correct. >> did your investigation determine who requested the polling data to be shared? >> i would direct you to the report. that's what we have in the report. >> we don't have the redacted version. based on your investigation how could the campaign used this data to serve its sweeping and systematic interference in the 2016 election? >> that's a little bit out of path. >> fair enough. did your investigation to find that the russian government perceived it would benefit from one of the candidates winning? >> yes. >> and which candidate would that be. >> well, it would be trump. campaign wasn't exactly reluctant to take russian help. you said it expected it would benefit electorally from information released through russian efforts. >> that's correct. >> it was it the investigations determination, what was the investigation's determination regarding the frequency with which the trump campaign made contact with the russian government? >> i would have to refer

manafort also discussed internal campaign strategy on four battle ground states, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and minnesota. but the russian intelligence linked individual, did he not? >> that's reflected in the report as the items you listed previously. >> director mueller, based on your decades and years of experience at the fbi, would you agree it creates a national security risk when a presidential campaign chairman shares private polling information on the american people? private political strategy related to winning the votes of the american people, and private information about american battle ground states with a foreign adversary? >> is that the yes, sir? >> yes, sir. >> i'm not going to speculate along those lines to the extent it's within the lines of the report and i support it. i think beyond that is not part of that which i would support it. >> i think it does, sir. i think it shows a lack of patriotism from the people seeking the highest office in the land. manafort didn't share this information for nothing, did he j sir? >> i can't answer that question without knowing more a

you look at wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. ularly wisconsin and michigan, very, very narrow moat margins where black turnout was done, in milwaukee it was down, detroit. donald trump to me is courting disaster here by inflaming african-american constituencies. he will make it easier for any democrats running against him. ands there's some benefit he gets with white racist voters but it seems to be the risks for him are huge. >> the politics of it, i always believed people who have been marginalized as we have been as african-americans, latino, brown, yellow, asians, red, whatever the color we attribute to different racial ethnic groups as well as lgbtq and women, we vote out of pride or out of anger. so many of us said we will vote for a man because we never had a black male or lady senator because we didn't have one or barack obama, this is our time. and we get angry. and what he's doing is getting the anger out. >> this is my point. >> and it may be that i don't like this or that about it, but he will be waiting by the poll a

appetite for relitigating hillary's loss in 2016, but the collapse of the blue wall of michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvaniaundercurrent of the 2020 race. here in michigan one number is still seared into the mind of many democrats is 10,7 o 4. that's how many votes trump defeated clinton by. >> we were all in disbelief. it was very clear that people didn't turn out to vote, that that 10,000 plus votes that was the difference here in michigan was a very low turnout. >> reporter: gretchen is the state's new governor. she's closely watching the party's crowded primary, saying the outcome will play a critical role in determining whether michigan is still trump country. >> between 2016 and 2018. >> we had a massive change in who showed up at the polls and the results showed up for themselves. when the candidate shows up and listens to people and stays focused on the dinner table issues, that's how you persuade people that you're worthy of their vote. >> reporter: do you think any trump voters from 2016 can be persuaded to vote democratic in 2020 or are things so entrenched that it's more about turning out the de

margin in massachusetts, new york, and california but winning in places like ohio, michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania results showing joe biden's resiliency is an indication that democrats are being very, very pragmatic about this choice. >> this is also a reminder that the day after the last debate so many were saying, joe biden, does he have a shot? it certainly looks like he does. dave, a new poll finds biden is ahead of trump by ten points nationally. 49% to 39%. what are voters in kansas and missouri telling you? >> well, joe biden is pretty popular out here as you might imagine. kansas and missouri are centrists, the democrats are, most of them, stephanie. but we are very, very early in this process. joe biden is well known among democrats, perhaps better known than some of the other folks on the debate stage next week. so i think it is far too early to judge which way kansans and m missourians will go. they want to beat donald trump. at some point it will become anybody but trump and at that point we'll have a better sense of who they think is the best candidate to take on the president. >> af

to me, people oversimplified 2016 by saying wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania. ose were three very different states or at least two different categories. trump underperformed romney in wisconsin. he didn't terribly outperform romney in michigan. he completely blew away romney by hundreds of thousands of votes in pennsylvania as did secretary clinton over obama. if they can't figure out pennsylvania, if there's still a problem in pennsylvania, that's what i find nerve-wracking. the other thing is, yes, you can win the election without ohio, boy, have they been right over the years. i mean, they haven't been on the wrong side of an election since 1964. they've gotten 13 in a row right. they've only been on the wrong side twice since 1896. why are we still losing ohio? that's not to say we can't win without the numbers, but it's a huge warning sign. >> what happens to the republican party if he wins or if he loses? how do you put humpty dumpty back together? >> you see a real fracture. you see a breakout to some kind of third party or a real independent movement. th

but the collapse of the blue wall in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania is a driving undercurrent ofe. here in michigan one number still seared into the minds of many democrats, is 10,704. that's how many votes trump defended clinton by. >> we were all in disbelief and as we parsed through what the numbers were, it was very clear that people didn't turn out the vote. the 10,000 plus votes was a very low turnout. >> this is the state's new democratic governor, winning office as the party roared back in the mid tern elections. he's closely watching the primary saying the outcome will play a critical role in determining whether michigan is still donald trump country. >> between 2016 and 2018 we had a massive change in who showed up at the polls and the results show themselves. when the candidate shows up and listens to people and stays focused on the dinner table issues, that's how you persuade people that you're worthy of their vote. >> do you think any trump voters from 2016 can be persuaded to vote democratic in 2020, or are things so entrenched that it's more about turning out the d

but the laps of the blue wall michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania is a driving undercurrent of the 2020 race here in michigan one number still seared into the minds of many democrats is 10,704. that's how many votes, trump defeated clinton by we were all. >>and of in disbelief and as we first through life. the numbers were was very clear that we will in turn out of all at that 10,000 possible is that was the difference here in michigan. i was a hit very low turnout. gretchen whitmer's the state's new democratic governor. >>winning office last fall is the party were back in the mid term elections. she is closely watching the party's crowded primary, saying the outcome will play a critical role in determining whether michigan is still trump country between 2016 2018. >>we had a massive change in who showed up at the ball and the results speak for themselves when the candidate shows up and listens to people and stays focused on the dinner table issues that's how you persuade people that you're worthy of their problem giving any trump voters from 2016 can be persuaded. >>to vote democratic

>> michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania -- >> i hate this probably the only three states that mattero the election. you named them >> absolutely. the election didn't turn until 2:45 a.m. on election night in 2016 when pennsylvania went trump's way. these are major manufacturing states there's a number of tricks, if you look back over the last 40, 50 years, the treasury intervened before. they can team up with other international central banks globally they can do a lot of things with the amount of dollars held globally there's a lot of tricks up their sleeves, they'll pull every one of them out in the next two, three months to contain this beast inside the dollar. >> the strengthening strengthening dollar king dollar as larry kudlow likes to call it we like you, larry thanks for coming on >> okay. >>> also happening today, u.s./china trade talks beginning in shanghai. this is the first new round since that trump/xi face-to-face late last month at the g20 eamon javers joining us from washington, d.c. on what or what not to expect. >> this is the 12th round of talks between the two sid

i make the point that 77,000 votes separated us in michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. 92 million people didn't vote. they woke up the next day and said, holy cow, what happened. >> i don't think they said "cow." >> in virginia, we had a huge pickup. >> governor, what would you like to see the candidates focus on in this debate? >> what's that? >> what would you like to see the candidates focus on in this debate? >> good question. this debate, i would like to see the democratic candidates all talking about where they want to take this country. i think the last debate, there was a lot of talking about issues that didn't affect people at home. i didn't hear any discussion of k-12. i heard no discussion of infrastructure. cybersecurity. workforce development. how we train people, how we educate people for 21st century, all chasing after these ideological litmus tests. the last debate, there wasn't a lot of that for voters. they also have to deal with the issues of race since donald trump has doubled down or tripled down on his racist attacks. that's what i talk about in my book. dona

the michigan and wisconsin. pennsylvania. in addition to being good everywhere else.-over americans wouldn't have $400 in their pocket. the last 40 years ore half of americans haven't had a pay increase in real terms. we have focus on how to make everybody's lives better not divide us. and give everybody a fair shot at a better future. >> when it comes to the presidential race. you said maybe all the rules are gone. maybe every rule is gone. what do you mean? >> i think this president between his lies and misstatements, dividing us by race and gender, geography. everyone that we would expect as normalized is changing and you look at we are now in the age of celebrity. obama is a first term senator. the last snert before that that we successfully nominated on the democratic side was john f kennedy. we look for executive experience. i certainly hope that this presidential race isn't a reality show. who has the most tweets and clicks. can and i hope the rules will continue. i'm in iowa today. it's always been iowa that sort of the great sorting hat that takes a large fie

middle class americans in wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, who are very concerned about if you putws of the squad in place, particularly aoc's green new deal. it fundamentally changes the way this economy runs. it takes away energy jobs out of the american workforce. those are bad for america. they want to ultimately undermine one of our greatest allies in the middle east. go down issue after issue and where the squad is on issues is not where many americans, particularly those in the middle class and in suburban america are on what they view issues. >> donald trump is good at two things. he always accuses other people of things he is guilty of. the accusations he is making against these four congresswoman he has made a career of, by condemning america and previous president. he did that for decades. i point you to his inaugural speech that laid it out as one example. secondly, the other thing he does is to change the media so they focus on things to distract from other stories. donald trump by using these racist claims, is distracting from the mueller testimony this week and the e

michigan where we are now. and wisconsin and pennsylvania.he message to the white working class the president is standing up for you. he's patriot. and they're trying to turn the entire country into baltimore or urban area that maybe foreign to someone who lives in rural part of the country and lives in the president is trying to paint a picture that we are trying to protect the country from becoming like urban america. and that's the strategy they're going for. basically trying to juice the turn out among the white working class. even though they feel it may offend people who are minorities or live in the cities. they don't necessarily need votes from people in california or baltimore. because they're focussed on the electoral map and that message works. >> it galvanizes the base. he targets elected officials of color. is that a winning strategy? >> not necessarily. because i think the mistake they're making is they're looking at the white working class in isolation from all of the other complex parts of the elector at. this overt racism wil

but this time we are in the middle of a state, of course, ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. we care about jobs. i want to hear him give you you a full throated, you know, push for a jobs policy that keeps jobs in america. >> governor, quickly your breakout moment must be for who. >> before i say that i want to give the warren folks credit. they have won the sign award. i've run campaignings if you if i pull up in the event and i didn't win the sign war i'm mad. >> i'd get out there myself. but big night tonight for the governors wherefore bullock and hiken loop sfwleer bullock's first time on stage. >> great opportunity for him to come out and shine. governors are at a disadvantage in presidential campaigns. you know, senators, congress they can transfer money from federal accounts. we can't do that. also you have a barr hearing, kavanaugh hearing, mueller hearing tens of millions are watching. we don't watch governors. you weren't skulg are calling me how i was doing route 495 in virginia. it wasn't sexy for you. that's why tonight is the night. governors your right night t

that's, of course, michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. three states he won by less than a point. as the cook political reports, david wasserman points out all three of these ageing relatively white states have some of the nation's highest shares of groups without college degrees. the group trending away from democrats over the long term. the nonwhite share in eligible electrorate has increased to ony a quarter to half of the rate it has surged in california and nevada. an nbc news contributor joins me now. walk us through the reporting and analysis here, dave. i think there's probably a lot of people out there who are energized -- clearly, our polling is showing that people are energized to beat president trump. but it doesn't seem from an electoral college perspective that the mentality has changed since 2016? >> kasie, in 2016, a lot of democrats explained the win as a fluke. hillary clinton won by millions of votes and lost the electoral college. that can't happen again. our knowledge suggests that president trump's advantage for the electoral college might even been widening.

they say things that please the base on coast, they're not paying enough attention to michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania where president trump won in 2016. democrats have to ask themselves the same question, which is, do we have a message that resonates with works class voters in the midwest, not just with people on the coasts who we'll get anyway. if you run up vote in california and new york but don't states in the middle you have not done yourself any good. similarly for president trump, run up the vote in red states by exciting your base, you don't reach the people in the middle, you're not going anywhere from where you were in 2016. they are mirror images of the same kind of problem right now. neil: gerry, good catching up with you. gerry seib, "the wall street journal" executive editor among other things in washington. we were mentioning before about anomaly with china bears watching. i find it interesting. not only the president's threat he could up the ante with the chinese including $325 billion in additional goods which essentially would target all goods from china, the latest development, the

trump, but if you look at the states that actually gave trump the presidency, midwest, michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvaniaeral of the democratic candidates who are right now beating trump in those key states. he cannot win the presidency without those states, victor. so i think that there's a huge opening with a lot of people who frankly went to the polls and, you know, voted for trump but didn't really want to, right? they held their nose doing so. there's also a big opening with a lot of people who voted for trump thinking that he could become more presidential, thinking that he would fight for them but frankly all trump has done is stab them in the back. you have farmers. you have working people where trump's policies have actually hurt them. if part of biden's strategy or frankly any democrat who gets the nomination is to point out those ways in which trump's policies have hurt the people who he promised to help and who voted for him, then i think there's a huge opening there. >> the vice president, brent, also apologized for his comment about working with segregationist senators several decades ago a

he won michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania by 77,000 votes collectively.e trump era, what we're seeing is that the suburbs are clearly moving away from this president. we saw that in 2018 including in those states and in my home state of texas where liz l izzy fletcher won in the suburbs of houston. and dallas. in california where regan country is all blue, i believe the more he does this and turns off those suburban voters in suburban milwaukee, suburban detroit, suburban pittsburgh and philadelphia, he makes it harder, he's also going to drive up the turnout in detroit, in philadelphia, in milwaukee. some people, you know, they hear what he's doing and they have heart burn. they think well, you know, is he going to be able to get another electoral college victory? i see the strategy but i believe he's hurting himself doing this and this is a sign not of confidence but desperation of trying to eke out a little bit more from a base that ain't going to go very far for him. >> some have said that this is not going to be a race about who has the best plan bec

if you're talking about midwest voters, i would remind people that trump won michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvaniass than 100,000 votes combined. he needs to secure that vote. that's, again, every president going into re-election is going to say where do i need to win? obama did this. try to secure your base moving into a re-election move. >> jo, let me insert something really quick about the seventh congressial district. the district has a income of $60,000 on par with the national average. they produce more college graduates nan the national average in the united states of america and have more african american graduates from college than the national average as well. he made an assumption that this was a bad district to live in. >> ned, i want to follow-up the point just made. david axelrod tweeted that if donald trump loses 2020 this will be why he's subjecting the country to a stream of ugly bombastic -- that's advice from the other side of the aisle. >> again, we've had this conversation. i want trump to focus on all the good things he's done. obviously, i think the economy is going very, ve

it might be hard to replicate his victories in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and continue to hold of all in on this us versus them campaign, which often has like overt or less overt racism, as part of it, and yeah, the downside of that could be that you crank up turn youou the other side. him, who thinks about the pageantry of politics, and how does he get the fox audience amped up, it's the clearest way to win reelection. >> on the other side of this you have nancy pelosi on the house floor, what is her strategy standing up to the president. >> it's a no brainer, the position she took yesterday, most americans looked at that comment and said it's clearly racist, go home, think about what happened in the 60s, what's happened in the past to minorities. it clearly has a context that smacks of racism. and to her, derchfending her pa, defending these women is a no brainer, she is having this mini feud with them. there's not a downside for her even if there's a big hoopla on the house floor whether or not her remarks were appropriate. in terms of her base and her party, she's fine, rig