last one is well he's a soldier of saw uh definite thorn in the british government side this is uh mick linch who's the rmt union boss here on robert pesten's show uh briefly fatima why is this uh interesting? this is interesting because as we having these protests coming up as well this weekend and again it's been said that uh the slogan. um obviously from the river to the sea is not anti-semitic and he obviously says that and it to him it doesn't mean that's the end of these israeli states he says that even many jews don't think it is so he's in debate arguing that point john landsman founder of momentum uh somebody who i imagine you would agree with on quite a lot of stuff he says that the slogan from the river to the sea is anti-semitic and shouldn't be used do you agree with that not particularly i'm not aware that anti-semitic, i've heard jewish people use that phrase, there will be jewish people on the march at the weekend from all sorts of organizations, and it doesn't offend me, if it offends certain people, it doesn't mean the end of the israeli state, we believe... a two-state solu