but last time around, mick mulvaney with a 20-point win. as the republicans have gone 4 for 4 in the special elections, we've seen it in montana, 15.8%. down to plus 5.6%. we saw it in kansas where more than a 30-point victory for the republicans last time around last year down to 6.2% in the special election. so what does it mean? we have to look at the balance of power heading into the mid-term elections next year and know that the democrats certainly have ground to make up. they have to start turning these close but no cigar races into actual victories. they don't have to win them all. the magic number is 218. so for the democrats to flip that over and get control of the house, they need to net a total of 24 seats next year. neil, back to you. >> neil: thanks, connell. so closeness of these elections, particularly some of these special events and the recent ones by a couple points, is that a message to republicans? that they shouldn't get too ahead of themselves here? aaron mcpike with us here. what is the sense? relief on the part, i gu

the other lower profile race tomorrow is for mick mulvaney's old seek in south carolina. georgia district, trump won it less than two points. trump won the south carolina district by 18 points. so, democrats are sort of quietly hopeful that they might turn out a win there or at least a good run there. because they love their candidate there in particular. but democratic party nationwide spent almost no money in south carolina to help and on paper it looks like it would be very, very, very hard for the democrats to flip. both of the special elections tomorrow in georgia and south carolina, the polls will open at 7:00 a.m. eastern time and close at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. which means by this time tomorrow we should be getting at least an early idea about how those races are shaping up and who might eke out a win but honestly i canceled the plans for tomorrow night and will be here late. ahh. where are mom and dad? 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin' up the country. love mom and dad' i'm takin' a nap. dude, you just woke up! ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, b

republican mick mulvaney held that seat comfortably for, i think, three terms. but before him, as recently as 2010, this seat in south carolina, house district 5 was held by a democrat named john separat sprat. it has been a sleeper race compared to what is really the marquee event tonight. this is the race in suburban atlanta, georgia's 6th district. this is the seat that was previously held by donald trump's controversial health secretary, tom price. now democrats in contrast to that south carolina race, democrats have thrown in as much as they could to try to help their democrat candidate in georgia 6, john of of. running against republican georgia former secretary of state karen handle. tonight is actually a run-offelection in georgia. there was a first round in april. 18 different candidates ran. jon ossoff won by such a margin that he almost won the seat right there that night. for want of 2 percentage points in april, he was ultimately forced into tonight's run-off by him and karen handle. it's interesting. read a lot of the nationwide commentary on this

mnuchin, secretary kelly, and my budget director mick mulvaney. i want to thank jared and chris, adviclavell. i want to thank ivanka for working so hard on it. our goal is to lead a sweeps transformation of the government's technology that will deliver dplat i canally better services for citizens, stronger protection from cyber attacks which we were just discussing. that's a big problem, there is no question about it. we'll solve the problem, and up to a trillion in savings for taxpayers the next 10 years. over a trillion. we are embracing big change, bold thinking and outsider perspectives to transform government and make it the way it should be and at far less cost. my administration has taken historic steps to modernize critical i.t. systems and make government more transparent. as an example, you are seeing what we are doing with the airports. with all of the billions of dollars that have been spent on planes flying in the wrong direction. we are getting a change. we are getting that whole system fixed. money wasted over the last 6 or 7 years.

the man who wrote the budget, none other than mick mulvaney, white house budget director. r yourself, mulvaney. you are going to starve children and you're a cruel guy. your response? >> it was, i think you guys didn't include the segment where someone accused me of ethnic cleansing. someone else accused me wanting to murder a million people overseas. thank you for toning it down a little bit as we go into the segment. stuart: you're welcome, mike. what is your response? it was harsh criticism, assuming that you are going to take stuff away from a lot of people who need it. that is the essence of the criticism. respond to that. >> that washington use as different english language than ordinary people. in this town if we spent $100 on something last year and we spend $102 on this year, believe it or not, i'm not making it up, we call that a cut. you would call it increase. i would call it increase. i tell my wife when we do that at home, in d.c., we call it a cut. most of the dramatic, not all, but dramatic reductions in the left referring to in the budget, us growing at slo

people know about john all soft but wheno ossof, mick mulvaney was tapped in south carolina -- do youuse of cards"? it's the seed that frank under word represented. athie parnell was literally goldman sachs, a veteran of goldman sachs. he was there this january and february, but he left to run for office for the first time in south carolina. i spent time with him and with film her feet, the front runner for the new jersey governor doyle race. is this because of steve cohen? or is a correlation becoming stronger? max: listen, i think the steve mnuchin is not the fit, but very importa steer -- stevens. i think that you can go back to the middle of the 20th century and find connections between goldman sachs executives and politics. if you want to be generous about it, you consent save there are people at goldman sachs who care about public policy and want to give back by running for office or being appointed to positions like eric cohen. but it's realistic to point out that connections to government are an important part of what makes goldman sachs successful. you cannot find people from

but do you agree with mick mulvaney that you are not yet in your final form? right, stephen. the house may have passed me, but now i go to the senate, and the whole thing starts all over again. it's a long journey, but i can't wait to be a law! >> stephen: bill, you should know, a lot of people don't like you. >> they don't? but, stephen-- ♪ i'm just a bill, yes i'm only a bill ♪ and i'm sitting here on cap-- >> stephen: we know. listen. >> oh, that's right, we established that. ( laughter ) >> stephen: now, bill, i have got to ask-- have you even read yourself? >> well, no, i thought the congress would read me. >> stephen: well, they didn't, bill, and if you become law, 24 million people could lose their health insurance. >> what? that's terrible. well, at least i cover pre- existing conditions. >> stephen: no, you don't do that, either. >> my god, i'm a monster! who created me? >> stephen: bill, i don't know how to tell you this, but donald trump... is your father. ( laughter ) >> no! that's not true! that's impossible! ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: re

listen to what mick mulvaney had to say about what the jobs report says about the overall economy. >>he jobs numbers may reflect industry, capital sitting on the sideline waiting for us to repeal obamacare and tax reform before they commit to the economy. they like what they see out of the president. you've seen that in the stock markets. in terms of making the investments that drive up the job numbers, drive up the gdp numbers, they're waiting on congress to act. that should be his motivation that they need to get back to work. >> so shepard, you heard mick mulvaney say, it's up to congress as they come back from recess. they'll be back here next week. on tap for congress, healthcare, budget and tax reform. most likely we'll see some kind of healthcare legislation out of the senate in the next couple weeks. we expect to see a budget resolution before august and tax reform in the fall. >> shepard: they're going to get all of that done in that period of time? >> i didn't say that. >> shepard: i would be holding my breath. thanks, adam. five people died, 44 others hurt in shootings last

carolina's fifth district are going to the polls, replacing the president's new budget director mick mulvaney. ralph norman is favored over archie parnell in a race that has also been a lot about president trump. >> i appreciate what donald trump is done. i support the president and i want to bring his message to the fifth district of all that he's accomplished great he's done a great job. started off right with neil gorsuch and he's continuing in the economy and what he's doing for business. >> the only thing i can agree with my opponent about is the fact that we are so starkly different. he has given president trump a grade of a+ plus. i cannot agree with that. it's the one we will have the results tonight on our election special, 11:00 p.m. eastern. what do you think? do you think the special elections are that important? let me know on twitter at @bretbaier. use the hashtag #specialreport. or on facebook at facebook.com/bretbaiersr. we will have the results at 11:00 p.m. eastern. news overseas, a russian warplane armed to the teeth came way too close for comfort to an american reconnaissa

and mick mulvaney omb director. office of management and budget, spoke to this and play it and get your reaction. >> we're no longer going to measure compassion by the number of programs and the number of people on those programs, but the number of people we help get off those programs. david: so it's more compassionate to try to get people off of welfare than to put it on it. >> i think that mulvaney speaks to how trump gets it backward. how is he helping the native americans saying you will have access to what which is debilitating. i think he's helping immigrants by saying you will not have access-- >> wait a minute, john, he wants to stop that or at least cut it back. >> precisely. david: the availability of welfare for immigrants. >> you know, no, which is a great thing for immigrants. trump once again gets it backward. why are you helping americans by saying you're going to get access to something that's not good. and i think in a broader sense we've got to say, we do not have an immigration problem, that's th

it's the seat that belonged to mick mulvaney.at that belong to frank underwood on "house of cards." julia: how well are these guys going to do? what is it about goldman sachs means there is a natural path to washington for them? max: i'm not sure archie parnell's biggest problem is golden snacks -- goldman sachs. north carolina voted for democrats for a full century until mick mulvaney come -- came along. they redrew it, some people call it gerrymandering, so it's harder to win now. go to as why goldmanites washington, not only do have gary cohn, steven mnuchin, and gary powell working for trump, don't forget that bill clinton had a treasury secretary from goldman sachs, just like george w. bush did. it's either something in the water or goldman sachs executives are taught that public service matters, not only to these people's personal lives, but also to the firm's bottom line. julia: very quickly, do you think it's going to help with things between parties if we do have at least a group of people that come from the same area, l

. >> outside experts say there is still room to run under the debt ceiling before december but mick mulvaney has said a want you guys to go into august. do you believe that has to be done by august and will the democrats help raise the debt ceiling before you are given a concrete dropdead date? >> i don't know who you're using as a reference for october. >> the bipartisan policy center. >> everything we are hearing is that it should probably be done before we leave at the end of july so that it could be ready for september. it could happen in august. one of the reasons, my understanding is, again, is that we need to do it sooner because many people, many entities are thinking they will get a big tax break from president trump for next year. the revenues are not coming in as fast this year's they should. in other words, part of when this happens is how fast the revenue comes in. people are making decisions about their balance sheet relating to something they think will happen relating to rates for next year. and do so in a way that creates growth. be agnostic. wherever good idea come from, we

when i talked to budget director mick mulvaney he said the is all over this. kevin mccarthy the major the same thing. everything i'm hearing is president gets it. understands it. that's a rip off what's happening to her. the pharma, companies have been in there. it doesn't go to the heart of problem. which is pretty basic. that woman these pay higher prices for same products it's because of the immense pricing power that the drug companies has. good workanies doing and creating good products have competition. leveler on thea price. you can't charge more because you can get away with it. is not there yet by his actions. verbally.ands it please mr. president let's help this woman who called in. host: the "new york times" talked about the approach might at theng a look regulatory burden. guest: i'm all for that. regulatory burden is overstated by the pharma companies. that's not the reason those prices went up. there's no burden causing her prices to go up as far as she said. that's just because the company has the ability to keep raising prices. for pharmaceutic

and the reason i raise is this because mick mulvaney last week was quoted as saying several folks inouse have said they are interested in pushing a larger tax bill that would add to the deficit. that's mick mulvaney talking about deliberations here about what this ultimate package would look like. mark wasn't really sure yesterday about how to guide us through whether revenue neutrality is a key priority for the administration in tax reform or not. can you assist us? >> part of that is because there's a discussion ongoing with congress. director mulvaney, secretary mnuchin and others, gary cohn, are working with congress to talk about the plan going forward. so that's a conversation, as i mentioned at the top, the president's going to have a conversation in the next several minutes with house and senate leadership, and that will, i'm sure, be a topic they will discuss. >> so an increase in the deficit is something that the administration would find acceptable -- >> well, i think i would put it more like this, if there is a conversation that is going to go on with congress about how t

was down there, but it wasn't a lot of money, that's amazing in a south carolina district that mick mulvaney and trump won by high percentages. even all soft coming in within five or six points was amazing in the district when you consider that it's a pretty rural area. he did not live in the district, which is not necessary according to law, but real smart politically. the fact that he didn't do that and kept talking about the fact that he was staying with his girlfriend, in a way that's commendable but i'm sure that in some places in georgia it didn't play well that he was living with his girlfriend and not married to her. i'm sure she's going to be a great doctor and is a wonderful woman and that's cool and fine but that didn't play out there. real, to the district, be you might have one. host: appreciate the setup, we will be spending the last half hour on that topic, the republican special election wins in georgia, specifically south carolina. callers can start calling in on republicans, democrats, and independence. we want to thank you. >> c-span's washington journal. light every day w

white house budget director mick mulvaney agrees that crop insurance is critical to farmers. but he says that's exactly why they don't need a big subsidy to get them to buy it. he also recently told lawmakers that the administration is helping small town america by rolling back regulations. >> farmers are farmers. they want to grow stuff and they want to be productive. they don't want to be paper pushers who trying to figure how the federal government is going to punish them for doing something that thought was right. >> reporter: still, some republicans are crying foul. senator pat roberts of kansas and represent michael conaway of texas oppose the cuts. they're the chairmen of the two agriculture committees in congress. they pledge to protect the farmers' safety net. the president's budget is just the starting point for negotiations. many farm states voted for trump. sawyer said he's hopeful that means the white house will listen to people like him. >> we knew there wasn't a perfect candidate. and honestly, there never really is. but what i believe in is smaller federal gov

right into the presidency and let's not forget that south carolina has a special election for mick mulvaney seat director of the office of management and budget that will likely stay republican but the margin is going to matter to d.c. insiders if it's even remotely close if it's not a double digit win for the republican the republicans have big problems in south carolina the margins matter here for what ends up going on in capitol hill the assumption of power all eyes are on georgia as i mentioned but they say and as you mention the same cannot be said for the special election going on in south carolina's fifth people say who is are cheaper now it was john galt who was our tea party now why does he matter what's going on only matters to you any matters to a lot of people in politics here why is this matters because what what d.c. is paying attention to is what these two races do as a set up for twenty eight terms right and if this margin in south carolina is anything less than double digits republicans have major problems going forward and the house republicans need to start getting things

mitch mcconnell but i would say this ryan seems very teed up to get these tax cuts passed and mick mulvaney the head of all and be office of management and but. it is working very closely with both houses to get this tax agenda through now and that's one of the reasons that mitch mcconnell is so determined to get the health bill on the floor next week because the first reconciliation bill will be about health let me ask you about that here the common sense caucus yes there is one on the house. believe it or not twenty democrats twenty republicans and in the past couple of months they instead that they do want to work with republicans on tax cuts and tax reform again you know looking at the democratic agenda going to twenty eighteen do you think that would be wise for them to do to show points of compromise and cooperation i think if there is room to make progress we should work together to make progress now the reason that the trumpet ministration doesn't have any legislative achievements to point to is they have no legislative strategy and no what gender they sit on a stat is you know the

mnuchin saying he supports a clean debt ceiling hike that puts him and the president at odds with mick mulvaney what we learned today in this hearing with secretary mnuchin is he's pushing congress to come to a decision before they leave for the august recess on whether there is going to be a raise in the debt ceiling. gerri: attorney general jeff sessions just released a statement on the 9th coast appeals decision on the travel ban. president trump's executive order is well within his lawful authority to keep the nation safe. we disagree with the 9th circuit's decision to block that authority. >> the administration has stood by in defense of that ban. it's important for jeff sessions especially to come out and make a defense of that travel ban. the president just recently attacked the justice department for the what he called the watered down version. i think jeff sessions will rise to the challenge every time it presents itself to make it clear the justice department is going to strongly pursue getting the *'s travel moratorium in place. gerri: no surprise there that he would be vocal and out

mick mulvaney defeated former joe biden aid fran person by 21 percentage points in november and donald trump on the district by 18 percentage points. read more at politico.com today. yesterday house speaker paul ryan played the trump administration and republican-led congress would overhaul the nation's tax code this year. his remarks to the national association of manufacturers. ♪ ♪ >> thank you so much, buddy. appreciate it. afternoon, everybody. how are you doing? great to see you. thanks for coming out today. welcome to d.c. hey, kathleen. thank you. thank you very much. appreciate it. please. jay and i go back many, many years. thank you so much, j. i also just want to say what an honor it is to follow my dear friend, our vice president mike pence. isn't he doing a great job? [applause] together we are working on a bold agenda for the country, regulatory reform, health care reform, tax reform, rebuilding a military. after years of talking about these problems, we are finally doing something about them. but i do not viewed as a sort of a simple checklist for government or just turn

he said something different than the office of management and budget, mick mulvaney.re we getting a clearer, more unified message from the trump administration? >> i think so, because i remember pretty clearly the president cited with -- sided with secretary mnuchin. i would love to be 30 years younger too. it's not going to happen. we ended up with the sequester thing that is still plaguing us. getting a clean debt bill will not happen. the question is, can it be negotiated. to get asan deal, budget, to get something on taxes if it's possible, and to get an extension for the debt limit. this is made more complicated by the fact that the president presented a balanced budget and said, i want a balanced budget in 10 years. the cbo pointed out to us what is likely to happen is we are going to add $10 trillion to the debt over the next 10 years. and that is a far cry from a dallas budget. anna: the cbo and white house seem to be on different numbers on a number of forecasts. steve bell, senior advisor at the policy center and former director of the senate budget committe

these are the same things we have heard on the campaign trail and mick mulvaney. the president and his comments in just a moment. let's listen back in. >> millions and millions of dollars -- when i said how long is this short roadway been talked about, the gentleman say 20 yearsf you coming you are safe. i said, don't say anymore. months, a major front-page story, but these binders on the stage could be replaced by just a few simple pages, and it would be just as good. it would actually be much better. these binders also make you do a necessary things that costs billions and billions of dollars, and they actually make it worse. example, the 23 -- if you look at it in ohio, the ohio river bridge, $2.3 billion, a 150,000that amassed a page administrative record. 150,000 pages is a five-story tall building. think of it. if you put the paper together, it is a five story building. how can a country prosper under this kind of nonsense? i know it. in the private sector, but come you know, in the private sector coming you move, wheel and deal, hope and pray, and maybe it

rob: ralph norman will fill the south carolina congressional seat, mick mulvaney, office of management budget. the president weighing in on that race, ralph norman ran a fantastic race to win in south carolina's fifth district, we are honored by your success tonight. special elections are over and those who want to make america great again are 5-0, all the big news, all the money spent. heather: another fox news alert, security beefed up in brussels after soldiers kicked out a suspected bomber. in the central train station, terrorist shouting allah u akbar setting off this explosion moments before being shot dead, people running for their lives. and and leaving 32 people dead. the third to strike since monday. the committee chair says the blame lies with europeans who need to step up. >> it is disappointing, these are problems, people have been predicting when happening. and on a regular basis for the foreseeable future but they are serious about how to deal with this. and the mass migration coming into their countries, you can work through nato with the safe havens in libya and the mo

. >> jon: talk about the nearby south carolina's fifth district race, the seat that mick mulvaney left he became a director of office and management. you have ralph norman. how do you like your party's chances there? >> will win this race. this is a head scratcher other than maybe democrats were trying to suggest that they put this in play because they're worried about the georgia sixth. what message are they sending to democratic voters? give us money so we can give up in a race that we don't think we have a chance, but we may want to pretend like we have a chance. republicans will win. >> the spotlight today is going to be on georgia sixth. if i'm republican and one of the 71 districts, that's more democratic than the georgia sixth district, i'm very, very nervous right now about this race. >> jon: brandon hall and david avella, thank you. >> julie: in the wake of a fourth terror attack this year, britain is taking a step towards policing the internet where officials think many people are becoming radicalized. your brussels to have balance of free speech and security in cyberspace. i

mick mulvaney, i think they can draw more people into the workforce.dichotomy in policy will get more important in the next 6-12 months. i think that has to be resolved. i would guess that the fed would continue with modest rate increases as a little bit of a compromise given the differing views of the data. matt: do you expect wage growth to come up? you did say that technology and demographics are holding it back. will that change? will continue to hold that consumer price growth. in the case of a wage growth, we have already seen some early straws in the wind of a wage growth. the last 12 months. small to midsized businesses have seen some wage growth. i think you will see more of that. the numbers are quite hard to interpret because you are trying to interpret small percentage increases that there are enough signs that is beginning to happen. so i am fairly confident that the outlook of the u.s. is not too bad. anna: jim, thank you so much for your time this morning. matt: we are going to be joined by former u.s. congress -- commerce secretary. an

david: we had mick mulvaney saying that the data of the cbo's relevance is over with.sympathize -- do sympathize with him? mr. stockman: no, i think the cbo is totally necessary. i think they are too optimistic. we had much hurt before, but even the cbo projects growth of nominal gdp and which is over the next 10 years that are far beyond what we have had. economy,ce of a world now if you think that china is just going to sell off into the sunset the next 10 years without a hiccup, more power to you. if you think the socialist economies of europe are not in trouble come wha, more power to you. if you look at what the fed is doing here, what we have had in last 10 years is that no way is any of this going to materialize. they are in fantasyland and they are going to end up in the ditch. here's the important point. within 70 days, when the debt ceiling kicks in, it's already in place and they run out of cash come a draining very rapidly, they're down to less than $150 billion. what investors are totally ignoring is that there will not be a debt ceiling increase. i think

seat that's now being held by -- that was being held by director -- white house budget director mick mulvaneythe south carolina fifth district. republican ralph norman facing democrat archie parnell. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> the house expected to gavel in any moment now, considering legislation dealing with homeland security issues and also the u.s. foster care system. and in the senate today, confirming brock long as fema administrator and working on deputy defense secretary patrick shan han's nomination and some - shanahan's nomination. mitch mcconnell says they could see a discussion draft of the health care law by thursday. reporters will get a chance to see it then as well, adressing concerns from democrats that the g.o.p. has been keeping the bill secret. he says the legislation will move to the floor next week as soon as they get a cost estimate and analysis if the congressional budget office on the health care refor

this is to replace rick mulvaney who -- or mick mulvaney who left a seat held in upstate south carolina to become budget director for the trump administration. but that district is considered safe for republicans. so neil, as you can imagine a lot less money being invested in that race. back to you. >> neil: thanks, jonathan. a long night ahead of him. he's young. he can handle it. much has been raised about the money that's been raised in this race. a record amount for the democratic challenger. better than $23 million. most of that coming from outside of the district and the state of georgia itself. to gerri willis when has been crunching the numbers. hey, gerri. >> well, this election has been compared to no other because it's the most expensive in u.s. history. more than $50 million invested. at stake a suburban atlanta seat that used to belong to tom price. the district has consistently voted republican for decades. the last time the seat was in democratic hands, 1946. white house spokesman sean spicer this afternoon discounted questions about whether the race is a referendum on tr

i don't know where steve mnuchin is, i don't know where mick mulvaney is. >> kennedy: everyone is focusedn the president, not them. if the president focuses on the stuff in twitter which is his greatest medium, then maybe that's where the press will be forced to look. >> melissa: i think you are outnumbered on this one. >> kennedy: meantime, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein warning americans to be skeptical of news stories based on anonymous sources. the statement comes just after "the washington post" reported that special counsel robert mueller is investigating whether or not president trump obstructed justice. rosenstein saying, americans should exercise caution before accepting as true and he attributed to anonymous officials. particularly, when they are not identified by country or the branch or agency of government when the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. robert mueller's office has leaked that they are doing whatever they can to make sure that they don't have leaks, but the leaks themselves do so much damage because if that's all people focus on and they're not int

been in favor of but others in his administration have not been in favor of doing this namely mick mulvaneyays this may be something we should hold up and not lift the debt ceiling until we can get clarity on issues. that question of whether the debt ceiling should be lifted or not is one that is continually controversial. we have two guests joining us today. jason fuhrman and rohit kumar. one worked for democrats, one worked for republicans stle they have an op sed abo-ed abou they think the debt ceiling should been removed because it has become a political weapon. we'll talk about those issues. we have a lot of ceos joining us the ceo of caspar, the mattress company. questions about the ipo there. we have the siemens "usa today," huli ceo, and we have bob pitman, the ceo of iheart radio who joining us with ryan seacrest a lot of things we'll talk about. >> so much on the show, i can't wait to get over there and join you for it i'll be with you in a bit. i'll join you at 7:00. >>> up next, forget f.a.n.g. what a market pro thinks could be the new market acronym. that when "worldwide exchan

the congressional seat last held by mick mulvaney is also up for grabs tomorrow. >> james: thank you.e will bring you the results from the georgia special election during a special late-night addition of "special report" hosted by bret baier tuesday at 11:00 p.m. eastern. are we inching toward an armed conflict with russia? we will talk about the downing of the syrian warplane by u.s. forces when the panel >> would call on the u.s. and others who have forces or advisors on the ground to assure our work is coordinated. >> we have a link between our operations center in qatar and the russian federation on the ground in syria. i'm confident we are still communicating between our operations center and the russian federation operations center and i'm confident our forces have the ability to take care of themselves. >> james: officials from the kremlin and pentagon speaking out after the u.s. downed a syrian air force jet and russia vowed similar action if u.s. pilots stray beyond designated zones. matt schlapp, jennifer jacobs, and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, with th

. >> mick mulvaney, the budget director, they make the argument that the money has to come from somewherean't all come from nondefense. what about that argument? where are you going to find the dollars? >> my perspective is there's nothing we do as a government, nothing we do as a congress that is more important than the defense of the nation. if our most sacred -- we have to consider it first before we consider anything else. we can't be in a situation where months from now coming years from now, god forbid we are attacked and our response is we couldn't build missile defense because we weren't willing to do what we needed to do on the domestic side. we've got to be in a situation where this is the most important thing we do. look, i believe we've got to get control of our spending and deficits. none of the major things we are doing up on the hill, talking about health care reform or balanced-budget none of those things will matter if we don't get the resources for the military. we have to look at it as a different kind of thing. >> congresswoman cheney. thank you for coming in. john, ba

this is a race to fill the seat of mick mulvaney who joined the trump administration as his budget director. >> kennedy: there are two races underway, but it is the one in georgia. anthony, we'll turn to you because it is a georgia race that has the nations attention. democrats are hoping it's a tipping point and it sends a big message to donors and their party, that they'll make big gains in 2018. >> anthony: it's tighter than i would like to see it. i do think that handel will win and all of the president's treating because you can see when he's cooperating his own tweets just by how he says certain things. i think this will not be the playbook for the future because you're not going to be spending $50 million on these races in 2018. i don't think that's going to happen. yes, it's a litmus test in some ways, but i do believe that she will win and it will go back to the status quo. >> kennedy: and should be a more controlled margin for her. this is a traditionally republican district. mitt romney won by 24 points back in 2012. the president had a harder time. what is going to be the tippin

one, ralph norman beat democrat archie carnell in a race to fill the house seat being vacated by mick mulvaneywho joins the trump administration as budget director. back to you. >> harris: thank you very much. kevin, it was interesting last hour on speech anyone, sherry bustos, the democrat it a was saying that this is an opportunity for democrats to move forward, what is really the bottom line here for that party? >> kevin: we are in the arab democrat hype. everything leading up to the special election, saying trump would get his mandate, that the democrats would lose, republicans were going to win, i like and guys to woodpeckers at a concrete force. they keep going on for the same tree. it's not working. it's been over done, it's been overblown. 2018 is going to be another mandate. everything that we've seen up to this point proves exactly what november 8th proved last year. >> harris: it may prove that it's the end to exit polling. >> mercedes: no question. we saw that handel was up by a percentage point. she won over 3% of the vote. i think what it's telling you is that, i don't want them