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former british ambassador to the us lord kim darroch, and former chief of staff to donald trump, mick mulvaneyrfect panel for what we will discuss this evening, looking forward to that. first, the latest headlines. the first minister of wales, vaughan gething, has resigned afterjust four months in the role. this morning, four of his labour ministers quit the welsh government, telling mr gething they could not get on with the job unless he resigned. mr gething had lost a vote of no—confidence last month, and had faced questions about a £200,000 donation he took while running to be welsh labour leader. a body found in tenerife yesterday has been identified as the missing british teenagerjay slater. the authorities there said that his death was caused by trauma consistent with a fall in a rocky area. he'd been missing forfour weeks, despite a huge search of the island. his mother said simply, "our hearts are broken". police in thailand are investigating the mysterious deaths of six foreign nationals whose bodies were found in a bangkok hotel suite. all six were vietnamese, and some had dual us ci

that we could have a president in a long-distance relationship, trump's former chief of staff, mick mulvaneythinks it makes perfect sense. >> the former first lady not playing a big role possibly in her husband's presidential campaign. axios reporting she might not return full-time to d.c.? >> look, this is the issue. when you are rich and famous and beautiful like mrs. trump was before she was president -- first lady, being first lady can be a real step down. you lose the ability to go out, you lose the ability to have friends over. it can be a very confining sort of role. >> martin: thank you, the guy who looks like the melted face nazi from "indiana jones." [ laughter ] [ applause ] maybe in trump wins, melania can just move to canada. because according to a story i saw today, there are plenty of trump-like con artists up there too. this is a cautionary tale about a woman from ontario who hired a psychic to rid her home of ghosts and got a lot less than she bargained for. >> the psychic told her to get rid of evil spirits would cost her $10,000. but after marie jean paid that money, he sa

i'm joined now by former white house chief of staff to donald trump, mick mulvaney.so much for joining me . now tell me. donald joining me. now tell me. donald trump doesn't bear grudges or remember rude comments about him. does he ? he's the sort of him. does he? he's the sort of broad, open hearted, spirited man who would just ignore what lammy has said in the past. >> i know that's a little bit tongue in cheek , jacob, but let tongue in cheek, jacob, but let me give you a serious answer to it, which is that, it's going to be a problem. there's no question. it's not an insurmountable problem. believe me, donald trump deals with people every single day that have said bad things about him in the past, including myself, i said some some things about him when the access hollywood tape came out during the 2016 campaign. so he does not bear grudges forever, but he is a human, and that's not a very nice thing for the future of home secretary to be saying . and home secretary to be saying. and there's going to have to be some discussion about it. they're going to have to c

mick mulvaney wrote an op-ed that he got a lot of grief for you later admitted was intended to there's no way donald trump would would question the outcome of the election as a way to sort of like, you know, coach him not to do that i agree with the journal on this for the most part, i think that the media bubbles stuff, if all you've done is watch fox and hang out in the fox news green room. you think there are all of these arguments that work on normals that only work in your little echo chamber. and but trump's going to do them anyway. >> jeff, look, i've been surprised that mean for as long as this has been sort of possibly in the works, how flat footed good the trump campaign sort of has been on this in terms of finding there footing how to run against her speaking about her name though speaker johnson has said it properly, senator j.d. vance said it properly last week at the convention. so we'll see what that split is. but overall, big picture the race to define her has been slower in some respects than i thought by both sides, democrats are not really rushing to defend her. an a

i'm joined now by former white house chief of staff to donald trump, mick mulvaney.so much for joining me . now tell me. donald joining me. now tell me. donald trump doesn't bear grudges or remember rude comments about him. does he ? he's the sort of him. does he? he's the sort of broad, open hearted, spirited man who would just ignore what lammy has said in the past. >> i know that's a little bit tongue in cheek , jacob, but let tongue in cheek, jacob, but let me give you a serious answer to it, which is that, it's going to be a problem. there's no question. it's not an insurmountable problem. believe me, donald trump deals with people every single day that have said bad things about him in the past, including myself, i said some some things about him when the access hollywood tape came out during the 2016 campaign. so he does not bear grudges forever, but he is a human, and that's not a very nice thing for the future of home secretary to be saying . and home secretary to be saying. and there's going to have to be some discussion about it. they're going to have to c

. >> to mick mulvaney's approach is to similar? >> we have a more focused rule of law approach when it comes to enforcement work. we try and enforce the law as you write it. >> he would probably take a very different position than you would as it relates to that, he would probably say you are exceeding the scope of your authority and regulating by enforcement and impeding the customer's ability to access credit because every time a business is impacted by something from your office, the cost are passed on and either customers are abandoned and denied opportunities because of the challenges they face, or have increased costs because compliance has cost on those are passed on so anyway i only bring this up and i think we can simply agree that with a republican administration the cfpb has a different role than with a democratic administration. i think we can agree on that. >> i think the way to address your concern is often to legislate more. >> you are right. andy barr has a bill that would create a commission that would appoint a cf

. >> former congress member donna edwards and former chief of staff mick mulvaney.y? you were ambassador to ireland? what were you at that point? january 6th, you resigned and you were absolutely furious and are you back now in the fold? >> where else are you going to go, joe? the primary and i know we will not talk about this. the primary is where you look among your folks and faimily an say this is my person. i didn't pick anybody at all in the republican primary. now it is the general election, it is a binary choice. it is either biden or trump. that's easy for me. i'm supporting donald trump for president. >> i was honest with andrew. i'm not -- the democrats aren't going to listen to me one way or the other. i don't know the best path forward at this is at this point. i just don't know, do you? >> well, let me say a couple of things. one, i think it is still a choice election. it's a choice between donald trump and his craziness and his lack of support for democracy and joe biden moving the country forward. i do think it's still a choice election. neither i nor

his former chief of staff john kelly, former chief of staff mick mulvaney.eoff: his former national security advisors, former secretary of state, the list goes on. amy: i will not go every -- i cannot go through everybody, but i am counting basically who has distanced themselves from donald trump. to me, that is what is quite remarkable. if we are talking about forgiveness or redeeming, this is not simply like we were in 2016 or even in 2020, this idea that he is going to pivot, he is going to be disciplined. maybe there is a record and there are people who have seen him operate while he was president of the united states. most of those people who worked with him have either publicly come out against him or are certainly not endorsing or openly supporting him. amna: to that point underpinning this whole conversation around his vice presidential pick is the idea that his previous vice president is not here, because supporters of mr. trump threatened his life on january 6. there is no longer any partnership between them. how is anyone going to handle that here