commissioner dooley: and we're including the microbrewries issue? executive director dick-endrizzi: the microbrewries issue is one that -- we're in discussion with the my crow breweries. there has been discussion about the businesses working together as a whole on this. because the micro breweries, it's a unique -- there's unique exonalts to them in terms of being both the wholesaler and also the retailer. commissioner dooley: they sell other people's products as well as their own. the formula retail. executive director dick-endrizzi: so, going to the formula retail component is that for, one, identifying the onsale retailers as -- that has been identified, the formula retail, the big box, will have the advantage of being able to distribute this increase over many different products, thus not raising their costs, which put them at a competitive advantage of having consumers purchase the products from them over the smaller retailers. the other component -- the other component -- let me -- i'm sorry, let me just -- the other component that has been id

and so -- and also going to, like, so to focus on the microbrewries, what has been said to us is that there are micro breweries that are outside the city that bars or even some of the other micro breweries purchase their product and so they're concerned that these micro breweries are going to be less likely to want to sell their product need the city. because of having to track and calculate that cost may not be worth it. so, again, the sort of product and this can also go with wineries, the availability of the product can be diminished in terms of an offering for the consumer and the fact that the city seems to pride itself in terms of, you know, supporting local farmers, that kind of thing, those business models that are based upon that product either in wine or in beer may -- there' chance that they're going to have to licenses, it the controller projected $9.3 million loss of spending on the offsale sector that actually averages over $11,000 per business based on the corrected numbers. big big -- executive director dick-endrizzi: that was a different bullet point that i was speaki