commissioner dooley: and we're including the microbrewries issue? executive director dick-endrizzi: the microbrewries issue is one that -- we're in discussion with the my crow breweries. there has been discussion about the businesses working together as a whole on this. because the micro breweries, it's a unique -- there's unique exonalts to them in terms of being both the wholesaler and also the retailer. commissioner dooley: they sell other people's products as well as their own. the formula retail. executive director dick-endrizzi: so, going to the formula retail component is that for, one, identifying the onsale retailers as -- that has been identified, the formula retail, the big box, will have the advantage of being able to distribute this increase over many different products, thus not raising their costs, which put them at a competitive advantage of having consumers purchase the products from them over the smaller retailers. the other component -- the other component -- let me -- i'm sorry, let me just -- the other component that has been id