just wait for the microphone. yes, the microphone is coming. >> hi. i'm claudine schwebber at the university of maryland, university college. my question is what is your definition of trailblazing, is it because someone was the only one in an entity or are you looking at -- it looked like you went up to perhaps the 1970s. in other words was trailblazing a block that was from x time period to y time period, or was that because so-and-so was the only one at the time? believe it or now, i know about maybe el walker wilbrand from her work. >> she was wonderful. >> this is something that berksley and linda should answer because i was handed the interviews. i had nothing to do -- i mean i think at one lunch i suggested someone to you, but if either of you or one of you want to chime -- i mean it had to do obviously with who was alive. start with. berksley, do you want to say anything? >> can we get a microphone there, please? >> well, we started as a project of the aba commission on women in the profession, and part of the concept was to memorialize the won

[away from microphone] >> indianapolis.ksonville, florida and he is in indianapolis. >> can you say and spell your father's full name? >> it's charles hobert mcdaniel. charles hobert mcdaniel. and i'm a junior. yep. >> what was your father's rank? >> he was a master sergeant. >> when did you -- you were saying you broke down. when was that? when you got the phone call? >> was it thursday you called or wednesday? >> thursday i think it was. it was -- i remember where i was the rest of my life. sitting in my chair and my wife said you have got a phone call i said oh, okay. >> indianapolis? >> yes, yeah. >> what time of day? >> it was about mid afternoon. i don't remember exactly. >> where is the story [inaudible] >> i don't know how much we can get into that. again, i was very little. i know my dad watched ice cream. he always watched his weight. some things like that. he was an army guy. i'm an army guy, so i understand that. >> what was the family told about him missing? was the family told that he was killed or what was th

just wait for the microphone. yes, the microphone is coming. >> i'm claudine at the university of maryland, university college. my question is, what time block or your definition of trail blazing. is that because someone was the only one in an entity or are you looking at -- it looked like you went up to perhaps the 1970s. in other words, was trail blazing a block that was from x time period to y time period? or was that because so and so was the only one at the time, like, believe it or not, i know about megawalker willibrand from her work and we'll talk later. >> this is something brooks lee and linda should answer because i was handed the interviews. so i had nothing to do -- i think at one lunch i suggested someone to you, but if either or both of you want to chime. i had to do, obviously, who was alive. start with that. brooks lee, do you want to say anything? >> can we get a microphone there? >> we started as a project of the aba commission of women in the profession. and part of the concept was to memoriali

they'll be wearing microphones, though, so the audience can hear what they say to each other on the courseng place on thanks giving weekend as well. hundreds of thousands of teenagers in england,

i was holding a microphone, if i wasn't holding the microphone, people wouldn't have been able to hear my voice coming out of the speakers ever built into this virtual environment. what i was holding in real life was just a controller, a hand controller i would use in any other way. but by pressing a button, i was gripping the object in front of me. as i was able to pick it up, and it was the microphone and then activated the pa system that had been coded into this room. for me, it was like him sitting here, holding my hand to my face. people were sitting there, each one of you would have been sitting or standing at home wherever you were with a headset on. you would have been looking at a stage with something that's very cartoonish but still looks a little like me was up there with a microphone talking. the question and answers were just like question and answers, it was really remarkable. how many of you guys have tried a the or headset yet? just about everybody. how many have done one pc ones like the oculus rift or the htc vibe? interesting. we are in the motherland. so, you've pro

there's a microphone right here, if you would lake to come to the microphone. but i would to begin by inviting steven raustine from the kennedy foundation to the microphone. one of the great privileges of my professional career was to work with the ronald reagan centennial celebration in 2011. not because i thought he was a great president or not necessarily because of what he meant to me, but it was an opportunity to take the life, the leadership, and the legacy of the 40th president of the united states and to share that with the next generation that did not know him as a living president and to have partnerships and collaborations with eureka college, this wonderful school in illinois, which formed him in so many ways. and with other sports teams and high schools and to teach these stories about this man. but that was in 2011. and in 2017, i believe, was the kennedy centennial. and they did also an extraordinary job of reaching across the country, and i would love for you to talk a little bit about that, steven, in terms of the legacy of a president, and tak

there is a microphone right here if you'd like to come to the microphone. but i'd like to begin by inviting steven to the microphone. one of of my great privileges was to work with sen he tenial in 2011 ronald reagan. but it was an opportunity for me to take the life, leadership and legacy of the 40th president of the united states and to share that with the next generation that did not know him as a living president. and to have partnerships and collaborations with eureka college, wonderful school which formed him in so many ways. and with other sports teams and high schools to teach these stories about this man. but that was in 2011. and in 2017, i believe, was the kennedy centennial, and they did also an extraordinarily job of reaching across the country. and i'd love for you to talk about that steve in erms it of t the -- terms of a legacy of a president and taking in a centennial and sharing that president in new and fresh ways with the country. >> thank you very much. i think it is a time, just like you were talking about the paszing of president or f

tonight we will have some time for q&a there are microphones at the front please line up behind the microphone because this is broadcasting recorded and one other thing i would like to bring your attention is we do have the professor's books available on people versus democracy why our freedom is in danger in how to save it and there will be a book signing down here after the event can purchase copies of his book tonight and i recommend it. melissa is the dean of humanities arts and social sciences professor of political science here at mit has done a lot of research on various topics she has two books i want to mention one is shades of citizenship in modern politics and the second is the politics of official apologies from cambridge university press she has written and researched many other things but she will moderate because this forum was her idea and a good one it is a please help me to welcome melissa speeseventeen. >> thank you. good evening. i was talking to john and thinking as we saw the election results with political developments in our country and across the world i wondered what

[applause] >> were two microphones. one here. we have one microphone. if people would please go to the microphone. >> hi, thank you. an exciting story. my question is illogical for me to ask really. i work for the usgs. the last two thirds of your talk over stuff that is sort of more inherently interesting to me but i would nevertheless, i was fascinated by the story of the first trip down the canyon. and just thinking as you described, the amazing perilous -- what is it that got the men that he convinced to go with him on the trip? what is it that encouraged him to do that? what simply, do you think, and appreciation for adventure and kind of the fun of adventure, where they paid anything? or did he have anything to say about what they might get out of a successful trip with other no, future books or whatever. >> is a really good question. thank you for that. it is a complex brew. he offered to pay some of the money to hunt and he had written out very carefully for the kind of animals you shot, what price you get for one of them and it was some suggest

again, i have to watch the microphones, i can't just call on people. i am watching, i am watching. >> is this working? william: yes. i think i don't understand something because what you just i don't know why the hamilton awareness group would hate you for that. what is that nonsense, or my just a hopeless capitalist? william: i was just kidding if i said -- when i said i don't know if they're speaking to me after this. my take on hamilton is obviously critical. there's nothing necessarily bad about it. -- i wrote the whiskey rebellion is my first book and how it plays a major role. it comes out of everything i was just talking about that i don't have time to talk about in detail today. some people said to me i finished that book and i hate that guy. i hate him. i thought, well, that was not my intention. find him aou could frightening in some ways and overly intense. you might not subscribe to his vision for the country and a lot of people than it did not. i do not hate him. i think sometimes major enthusiasts, i am not saying this about some people a

get me and give me an jay-z on the microphone. that one has not aged well. the knees like i was drinking a fresh pressed juice in japan. they are like the apple of countries. how one point i was riding a bike and shanghai and i was talking about climate change. it's real. writing a bike in shanghai is like smoking 12 packs of cigarettes. kim kardashian was getting very uncomfortable. she was very invisibly sort of trying to get him this way. she'd been down this path before. eventually has to take a breath. and they are being the season professed so that he is. thank you so much for his -- for your thoughts. we should get together soon. thanks everyone. i've gotta go. it's amusing. but i'm a little nervous at obama. and the president of the nine states. i have real things on my plate. he didn't even wrap. how did this happen. working to get in with the last day of a very long track more headed home. i'm also curious what is the promise to think about this. the hosts are walking this out. we're talking. in we get back there. in the limo. and as soon as the do

here with the microphone. first of all thank you very much is actually not a question i just wanted to let you all know that if anyone would like to see tended 15,000 bees been warned and someone dancing in them. i've a friend who will be doing that on september 8. i'm sure if you would like to come. you could bring it to the tea. very peacefully. and that will swarm all over them in the right conditions. we should all be there. in the middle right there. if we can get the microphone. bees have a fairly complex communication. in the b communication. it is just a wonderful deep pool of interesting biology. the best study b be in much of what we know is comes to us from honeybees because we study them. for so long. they have remarkable abilities to communicate through what they call a waggle dance. it's a situation where the b that is out foraging can find a good patch of flowers and by moving in certain patterns and showing other bees those patterns communicate a sense of distance and this deception. they can l

. >> greg: my microphone? >> jesse: use hers. >> greg: i need a microphone. will be in dallas -- i will be in fort worth, texas, tomorrow at a barnes & noble. i will be in dallas as well at a barnes & noble. then i will be in woodland -- i can't believe it. i will be -- >> jesse: everybody is going down. >> greg: "the greg but failed to show." superlative program. dana perino is on because sebastian gorka's plan got canceled. ""buffy the vampire slayer"," and of course -- >> dana: they didn't even make the graphic! >> greg: you look like sebastian. thank you for the microphone. >> jesse: dagen, please. >> dana: lord, have mercy on my soul. boise, idaho, 7:00 a.m. on a friday morning, got your cup of joe, you look out your window, and there are 118 goats in your yard. adult goats, baby goes, just grazing. the neighbors, nobody knew where they came from. it turns out they got loose, they were in a nearby field. they were owned by -- we rent goats.com. we rent goats -- they are not therapy goats, although, baby goats hopping around. very uplifting for the spirit

took the microphone and said some things of obama calling him an arab saying he was unpatriotic a danger to the country instead of stepping down into the gutter as some politicians are want to do mccain took back the microphone reassured the woman said no ma'am he's a fine american and a family man we just have some political differences so that is a quality of restraint and you military and decency that is all too lacking in this city today indeed let's just pick up not only on that comment from you rob but also from something that might kind of sit in his package and if it's not being called in shifts his conscious always played at the forefront of his political decisions he really in recent years perhaps paid became the conscious of america with issues such as immigration affordable health. being so passionately debated of course you know you drove around the country they must resonate with the people that you meet on a day to day basis whether they like to move didn't like him he was certainly a man who created debate and created conversation about the issues that mattered to america

thank you for that beautiful speech. >> is the microphone on? >> i will just talk loudly, then. >> maybe he can relay t i have a hearing problem. go ahead. >> thank you for that beautiful speech. is there a way that we will be able to get access and read it at our leisure? will we will able to -- >> is there a way we can get access and read this speech? >> no, ma'am, and i tell you why, i plagiarized and i don't mean that in a negative sense. i used comments from a dozen different people and a dozen sources and i didn't use quotation marks because i was emphasizing things to which i agree very strongly and if i let the thing be public somebody is going to call me, harold holzer, for example, will say what the heck are you doing to my words, but i appreciate the sentiments very much. >> dr. robertson, i'm from charlottesville and i very much appreciate what you had to say. as you know many, many people in charlottesville take an opposing view. one of the things that concerns me is that it seems that the last time this came for a vote in the virgi

we have the microphone right here, by the way. lastly, at the end of the event, please fold up your chairs to help events definitely in them against anything remotely solid. i am pleased to introduce john lingan to politics and prose. he has been in many publications. in his new book, "homeplace" he writes about winchester virginia, a little town in the midst of an identity crisis. with the u.s. economy and american culture rapidly transforming in recent decades it centers on the way of living in winchester had -- homeplace also asks larger questions. how do we move into the future without pretending our paths don't exist and what can you salvage from the past and what should we leave behind? the author of the man who caught the storm rights, brimming with humanity here is a -- a country singer that drove us crazy and broke our hearts into the slow erosions and monday 90 of a mountaintop town. john lingan writes with a sharp eye and open heart. please help me in welcoming, john lingan. [applause] >> hi everybody. hi friends and fa

to that end, we have microphones at each side of the room. and if the speakers allow time, and some may, and some of them may not, we will have an opportunity for each and every one of you to move over to the speaker or the microphone and ask a question. we are not going to allow people to get up and make a statement. we have our list of speakers set for the day. unfortunately, we have no time for any additional ones. we would love for you to have the opportunity to ask a question. but if you have a statement that you are making, you will be cut off. likewise, if your question begins to smack of something that is a loaded question or is disrespectful, you will be cut off. however, we are fine with a heated debate. and so i ask you just to be respectful. the other thing that i would ask is when you go to lunch this afternoon try to sit with somebody you don't know. share your thoughts and opinions and let's get that conversation going today that we need to be fostering nationwide. with that i'd like to introduce our first speaker. i don't thin

to that end, we have microphones at each side of the room. we will have an opportunity for each and every one of you to move over to the speaker or the microphone and ask a question. we are not going to allow people to get up and make a statement. we have our list of speakers set for the day. if it's a loaded question or disrespectful, you will be cut off. however, we are fine with a heated debate. so i ask you just to be respectful. share your thoughts and opinions and let's get that conversation going today that we need to be fostering nationwide. with that, i'd like to introduce our first speaker. i don't think there's anybody here that really needs to hear much of an introduction because this man's someone who all of us know and love dearly. i'm talking, of course, of dr. james robertson. he's one of the most distinguished names in civil war history. the man that's going to be speaking to you in a few minutes worked with president kennedy to help design and lay out the 100th anniversary of the american civil war. he worked to plan his fun

you do have a question coming up to the podium grab the microphone. questions from the audience? >> do you want to take that? was >> one saying that lebron said that the president was president been was trying to divide the country and employ in the opposite direction. [inaudible] >> like the u.s. military it is a rare context of comingether. together the social science shows that when you put people, although very diverse in a new group a new group whether biracial gospel choir or churchp group or 14 people since identity expands to the way collective in ways that reducey precedents and this is part of the argument that i make it's possible now. as bad as they seem it's possible now to enter work create a small utopia to create new norms of inclusion or dare i say love? so this is one of the things that i understand about the south.ed. as bad as the south is so many context that i feel politeness or whatever but i i don't feel another context. so i do think it is unfortunate that the president uses that context define people that is unfortunate. >> add to that anecdotally my you

he was contemporary. >> we have another question here and we can get a microphone over here. yes sir, thinking appear >> a question for mr. king. -- thank you. >> a question for mr. king. i am sorry, there is a rufus king in american history i am sorry. when we have a change of the ministration here the first lady often assumes some sort of curatorial role in the white house art collection with the way things are displayed or maybe bring in new art. and what extent is the queen of curator of her collection and how does she interact with the collection itself? >> she is very much involved in the displays and is very much aware of what is around, and any changes made. but on the whole, they have lived and enjoyed living in the home. particularly with the rooms. and the familiarity, it is a collection, you would expect a degree of involvement. it is hard to say exactly what that involvement is because her rain is so long and things change and acquisitions were made at the early part of her rain and few acquisitions have been made towards the end of the rain. i think in many ways

right here with the microphone. >> thank you very much.everything you've you said has been interesting. and it's actually not a question i just wanted to let you all know that if anyone would like to see ten to 15,000 bees being worn and someone dancing in them i have a friend who will be doing that september 8 on top of large mountains with lovely tea and a buffet so i'm sure if you would like to come you can bring your book. >> that is marvelous. thank you. we should all be there. we had another question we are going to move this direction. guess right here in the middle. >> bees have a fairly complex communication they can communicate with the flowers are and where the nectar is if you can address that. >> is a wonderful deep pool of interest in biology. the honey bees in particular much of what we know comes to us from honey bees because we studied them for so long they have remarkable abilities to communicate through a situation where they find a good patch of flowers can return to the hyatt and by moving in certain patterns showing o

. >> we have a large audience and we haven't a microphone somewhere. while that issuing up, when you ask your question, we will start over your first once we get the microphone, i would ask you to identify yourself and if you are with a particular employer, then please make it a question rather than a statement. right is our speaker tonight, despite my stalling the microphone has not appeared. why did you stand up and speak loudly. we are being recorded for c-span so we want the audience to be able to as well. >> i'm a reporter with "congressional quarterly" but i'm more here in my capacity as i checked the press club leading committee. so we've been very electrocuted, i think, i don't know if that's too big of what is it with this because we see the potential, we see that what thiel highlighted the potential major vulnerability in her press culture that is the jerry system. if you can find the right jury, you can get a judge to allow this to go to jury and not outright, than is possible in today's highly politicized environment to find a jury perhaps

>> i used to go to the microphone. i try to be free. i take the microphone out. it is whatever makes you comfortable. really. i do not know pick >> when you get your first left, is it okay? you know what i mean? >> if i am not getting a laugh, i blame the audience. >> [ laughter ]>> we get laughs . for you, is it better to have the opening for the first time? are we talking about the importance of netflix? or getting a deal with netflix? is not the ultimate?>> i have to go with netflix. >> netflix was amazing. i was looking to do a special and i wanted to do and i gave up opportunities for specials. >> not flex? yes. >> yes. is giving you huge exposure you and a lot of other comedians. >> the biggest thing i have ever done in my career. i have done tv and other things but this has a reach like nothing else. . i saw this guy and check him out. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> there is more information. he is performing tonight through saturday. more information is on www.ktvu.com . it is right there and you can find it on our mobile app. thank you so much

microphones are a part of that, making sure the video is terrific. webcams, and now we are into the audio stream. haidi: are you putting all of your expansion eggs in one basket with china? rami said it's been a phenomenal growth story. what other developing markets are you looking into? bracken: we have a terrific distributor business around the world. we are in virtually every market in the world except for north korea and syria. many is just one of our markets. it's a great market, but so is india. so is most of southeast asia. so is australia and the u.s. and latin america. we have strong growth in developing markets all over the world, and we have many categories that we are in. rami: the reason you are there right now is to talk about the growth of esports. where do you see that going in terms of the masses? it has already been growing exponentially here. bracken: i think we are at the very beginning. i grew up in the u.s., and when i was growing up, u.s. sports of football and basketball were relatively young. looking back at those times in th

wait until you get that microphone. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> i have a question i've been trying to have answered since november 1963. yes. obviously, by all accounts, the white house is a lovely building. however, the metal doors on the north side of the white house are quite unattractive and look as though they belong at the entrance of a sears and roebuck store. why do they throw off the white house beauty so much? why are they there? >> gosh. bill? >> we are, they are descendants from earlier called storm entrances because in the bad weather, which is always a problem on that north side. and it was to keep the weather, at least from going in. now it has security functions. it's aluminum. it dates from the '50s, right, lydia? it's that modern '50s stuff. i totally agree with you. if they did such a good job on the handicap ramp, why can't they at least paint that white? but you have other people who agree with you. lydia's going to change it. [ laughter ] >> i can tell you that security has made a huge diff

please approach the microphone. so do we have any public comment at this time? >> on the bridgeline. >> co-chair sehaux: on the bridgeline. please go ahead. okay. thank you. >> go ahead. >> please let me know when i can speak. >> yes, go ahead. >> hi, my name is zack karnise, a wheelchair user, a san francisco resident. and i have to say that the conditions for people, the disabled people in san francisco are just atrocious. i don't think that it's even safe to say that we're second-class citizens, i think that we're third-class citizens. and we don't have basic housing, food, transportation and i have experienced all of these deficits myself. i have to plan my days around which buses won't pick me up, especially during the rush hour when the buses are very packed on the 14 line. i have to wait two, three, and sometimes more buses, just to get home. all of the conditions that are bad in san francisco, the ones that are affect the disabled people the worst. we're the first to be priced out because we can't afford the rent here. social security, disability, pays a

and then there is someone with a microphone.to janna. >> hello, hello. so, i've been on the internet is the beginning of it being commercial and their elected bbs and disease groups and places for people get together. and now people say a coworker of facebook i wouldn't find my people and they find them kind of one in the same. how do you are somebody get the word out that those kinds of subcultures can thrive without these monoliths. >> yes, you mention disease groups. this is one of the things they really motivated me. she's doing great now, but my wife has been battling multiple cancers for a few years. they should be a time when it's easy to get useful information about cancer because they're so much. the point is you know what a denial of service attack is when hackers put a bunch of mao while -- now where i'm the get the same website of one's initiative down because there's no room to get anyone else in. that's the main thing that is done with these infestations. this is denial of service. so many manipulators, so many sca

and grab a microphone. questions from the audience. [inaudible] >> yeah. [inaudible] >> you want to take that? i actually didn't see the statement myself so i don't want -- >> i think one thing lebron said seemed that the president was trying to use sports to divide the country when they've often been employed in opposite direction, right? [inaudible] >> he grew up playing with black people -- [inaudible] >> well, you know, like the u.s. military it is a rare context for, you know, coming together. there's social science that when you put people that could be very diverse in a new group whether it's, you know, a biracial gospel choir or church group or sports team, people's sense of identity tends to expand to the collective, to this new group in ways that reduce prejudice, so that is real, it's demonstrated by social science and this is part of my -- the argument i make that it's possible now, as bad as it seems, it's possible now to enter or create utopia where you are creating new norms of inclusion and

now, the microphones are positioned here, so they will be taking in the sound just as your ears would recreate sound exactly as you hear it. hooke audio allows you to wirelessly pick up your surroundings in bineural sound, as well as catch video via your phone or with a wired connection if you're using a gopro or dslr. whilst you may get the greatest benefit from these at something like a live music event, i've been putting them to the test in everyday situations. now here there is music playing, people making juices and coffee, a lot of sound around. so i'm going to record it, but at the same time it also takes a video. so i took the video somewhere quieter to listen back. they're not the most comfortable headphones to wear, but the focus here is on the recording element. 0k, well that might not have the most exciting of things to listen to the sound from but it really feels like you are there, you can hear things happening over there, over there. the 3d element really, really is impressive. so we're sorted for sound. next up is this. what do you think it could be? well, it's a weara

and we believe that he is coming to the microphones right now.isten in. >> hey, good afternoon. i'm sheriff mike williams. i'm going to give a very brief update right now. we're going to follow up. the mayor and i will come back out in a couple hours with a lot more detail. at this point, we had some information we wanted to put out just again, answer very brief questions at this point. we just finished clearing the landing of potential witnesses and victims, that type of thing. here's what we know up to this point. we have no outstanding suspects at this time. no outstanding suspects. we have one suspect in this case. he is deceased at the scene at this point. he is a white male, and we are still working to confirm his identity. we have deceased victims at the scene. we also have injured people at the hospital and we will release counts later on. we don't have a count for you today. currently. we are aware of a video on social media. we have that video. but we would encourage people, if you have additional video or any other information about th

let's wait for the microphone. i just want to know. whether the pmc is the same as that private contactor. with the government or the military waters. or some other private contractors. and whether they had been abused with power not just within and may be used. we have the russians. with that cyber attack and meddling. is just a number and russian government. is it possible to have that by private contractors. i see no evidence that the military companies are engaged in cyber activities. the russian approach to war. it is adapted from russian military years. they operate under a completely different paradigm. let me be the first to apologize because i have to drive to a close here. i know there's a lot of other questions. i hope you can reserve your questions for them there. please join me and thinking the painless. this is been a remarkably informative session. today philadelphia mayor takes part in a discussion on education and community development at the center for american progress. that is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern. they talk a

we have microphones and cameras. lee's wait for the microphone. we will start back there with one. >> how low. teresa welsch. last week nicaragua was president claimed usaid for the protests on the ground and the violence in his country. i'm wondering your response and if you see tensions becoming so high that he will have to raise the country. host: nothing like starting off with an easy question. over here. at first as a former prisoner in exile here, i want to thank you for everything you are doing. venezuelanh the number theory and what do you see for the disparate -- the diaspora community here? host: very interesting question. could you please pass the microphone. , a journalisthal recently in nicaragua. with aently met nicaraguan opposition leader who was filmed at the nicaraguan university in april alongside armed men including a member of an armed again. given that the nicaraguan opposition has killed around 60 people, many for the sandinistas and over 20 police officers, i wondered if you had anything to say about the violence of the nic

we have team members with microphones and question ask that you have the microphone in your hand first because we're live streaming and if you don't happen the microphone the people at home cannot hear your questions. who has questions. right here. >> i was where going to ask you about the title of your book,ade in red, which i love, and then i noticed you mentioned it was your hairdresser. >> that's right. >> i'd like to know more about that. >> i live in charlottesville, a small town and aberdeen knows scarve everybody knows everybody's business, and the best place to find out everything is to go to your hairdresser, and you hear everything. so i was sitting in the chair, and the editor hat said we have to come up with a name. and so kimberly said, well, where are you in the name for this snook what's the title? i said i don't know. supposed to come up with a tile. she said i -- title. she said, "the lady in red" so i sent an e-mail to the editor and she said i just met with our staff, we like it, we're clipping off" the "and the tight is" lady in red" so before i even had my hair dr

so please wait for the microphone. havenk we have some -- we a microphone and identify yourself and keep it brief. thank you, panel. should i stand? elizabeth: sure. >> never mind parrot all just sit. i'm a policy analyst for six point strategies. concerns the obamacare case. some people said that judge kavanaugh upheld obamacare, which i don't think to be true. how would you explain that dissent and how would you explain his dissent in what he 5 obamacare case. elizabeth: who would like to take that? >> i think what you see in the is a case you mentioned judge who cares a lot about the words of the statute. and who does not care about passion or presages or any particular party or any particular policy outcome. the threshold question in that case was whether or not the challenger toed a the aca individual mandate to penalty hadhe tax been assessed before challenging the constitutionality of the individual mandate tax penalty. writtenvanaugh had extensively about the anti-injunction act in previous calledncluding a cas