we do see a rise in microsoft and google.e starting to pop more into manufacturing. >> what about advertising spending. samsung has been getting a lot of attention for its ads. the next ring wing is already here -- the next big thing is already here. how does it compare? >> we can look at the history. in 2009, samsung was a large spender. they have that business. they were certainly one of the larger pc makers. they are a little less than samsung. if we go forward, there was rising spending amongst all the players. the largest growth was from samsung, which accelerated to where they are spending more than coca-cola on ads. this is a phenomenon that is visible worldwide. >> horace, really interesting stuff. thanks for slicing the numbers of slightly different way today. it is now time for the bwest bite. >> it is the number of mobile phones for every u.s. citizen. there are more phones than u.s. citizens in this country. >> obviously a lot more growth potential. this china mobile thing, i just wonder how many china mobile user

apple, microsoft, google, facebook, twitter and others. they want to come to the white house and talk about the economic impact of this surveillance. and now a federal judge has weighed in. the national security agency is collecting so much secret data that it's building a new facility in utah just to hold it all. but a federal judge says collecting records of every phone call made to and from americans is unconstitutional. an indiscriminate and arbitrary invasion of privacy. >> it's untargeted, it's in bulk, and that's what makes it more troubling. >> reporter: the judge says a 1979 ruling that said americans do not have a right to private phone records is outdated because everyone has a cell phone now. the nsa has defended its program saying they only tap into that database with had there's evidence to suspect someone in the u.s. is collaborating with terrorists. >> the purpose of these programs and the reason we use secrecy is not to hide it from the american people, not to hide it from you, but to hide it from those who walk among you

eight major companies, including apple, facebook, google, microsoft and twitter, banded together to write an open letter to the president and congress. it appeared in full-page newspaper ads and online. the letter read in part:

online privacy of gamers it doesn't come at a good time either today is the day that facebook microsoft google and other large tech companies have written an open letter to the u.s. government asking them to dramatically change their surveillance operations so no matter how you spin it it just doesn't look good when you find out that g c h q and the n.s.a. have been found to be playing world of warcraft. author international life coming up in this hour we'll be discussing ukraine's future with international affairs experts and any peace that's after the break. they look like bounty islands. can enjoy the song on the ocean. but what was buried here years ago. people are suffering the consequences. how much more poison lies on the ground. behind this there is what we call the callet bank on which there is a deposit of plutonium left by security test which caused the dispersion of radion you clyde's despite previous cleaning efforts there remains a deposit of a little less than two kilos of plutonium stuck in the rock the coral reef about ten metres down. a never ending legacy. the national live

box live players have been having and of course the news comes at a time when microsoft google facebook and other technology giants have written an open letter to the u.s. government calling on them to review their security and their surveillance operations so no matter how you spin it it's just not the best day for the n.s.a. n.g.c. h.q. to be found to have been playing world of warcraft just doesn't look good. for of london paula thank you very much indeed about where. the u.s. defense secretary chuck hagel has landed in pakistan to try and iron out entrenched differences between washington and islamabad american drone strikes our central sticking point they've killed almost a thousand civilians in the country since two thousand and three and triggered a wave of protests but blocks are made to supply trucks to afghanistan two weeks ago for freelance journalist who is in islamabad for. but this is the first visit by the u.s. defense secretary. to pakistan in four years which shows how much the u.s. wants to build a relationship with pakistan and ease tensions which have been occurring

online privacy of game is it doesn't come at a good time either today is the day that facebook microsoft google and other large tech companies have written an open letter to the u.s. government asking them to dramatically change their surveillance operations so no matter how you spin it it just doesn't look good when you find out that g c h q and the n.s.a. have been found to be playing world of warcraft. well looking for terrorists in online games was probably just a good excuse to play around at work the opinion of john hicks the editor of x. box magazine. i must confess to being in flux as to how you would actually track down terrorists and it's made it's not doesn't really seem like the sort of environment where you could do it we could do that easily there are no will be use ways to you know to turn the conversation around terrorism. seem to think it's all just. people so you are just playing games at work so i think. you know the scale of the n.s.a. revelations from the snow files i think it's hasn't really come as a surprise to anybody like the fact that you know the n.s.a. is already mo

online privacy of gamers it doesn't come at a good time either today is the day that facebook microsoft google and other large tech companies have written an open letter to the u.s. government asking them to dramatically change their surveillance operations so no matter how you spin it it just doesn't look good when you find out that g c h q and the n.s.a. have been found to be playing world of warcraft. bahrain's throne another group of activists including minors behind bars bringing the total number of those arrested in december alone to twenty eight protesters say in recent months the government's crackdown has become in sufferable of the bahraini people struggle for reform goes back almost three years now to february two thousand and eleven when four demonstrators were killed as a police crushed a rally well less than a month later the authorities imposed martial law which allowed troops to suppress the dissent by that time the number of those arrested sort of a thousand and that is increased threefold by now but legal and physical pressure on the activists as failed to kill the protest mo

online privacy of game is doesn't come at a good time either today is the day that facebook microsoft google and other large tech companies have written an open letter to the u.s. government asking them to dramatically change their surveillance operations so no matter how you spin it it just doesn't look good when you find out that g c h q and the n.s.a. have been found to be playing world of warcraft. in london and john hicks he's editor of x. box magazine has but your money he thinks although the n.s.a.'s interest in online games is unusual the revelations fail to surprise anyone all that much there are huge number of players and they did and people do spend a lot of time in these games they form kind of lost being social. range of people as a rich history of people getting married having messy not world of warcraft and that kind of thing i die i must confess to being in flux as to how you would actually track down terrorists and it's made it's not doesn't really seem like the sort of environment where you could do it we could do easily the only thing that you could say that they would lea

i think google and yahoo and microsoft are justifiably -- they give the government front door access to their information. yet that buzz not enough because they created back doors without them knowing pit p so these company is in their business interests. but al in the interest of most individuals who have no choice but to use these carriers. there are obviously rep precautions. we have a very short amount of time left, let me get your thoughts on where the company stands. i hope so because you want to trick bad guys not good guys. it is about winning over people who can help you, who aren't your enemies and they haven't been doing that. so i think it's possible, but it's going to take a lot of leg working by the white house now. >> and i think it is part resoaring arm's length to the relationship between these companies. because there is an economic impact to this, and obviously the economy is an element of national security. so if you are doing things that may -- you might think is protecting on one side, it is weakening you in the other. >> well, we will have to talk further as th

are fighting -- giants are fighting back against government snooping, twitter, facebook and microsoft, google just to name a few. collection of personal data it also promotes individual privacy. we should tell you the latest group at the center of government spying is the online community of gamers, documents leaked by nsa whistle blower edward snowden show british and u.s. intelligence reportedly spied on gamers to counter-terrorism. >> tony, the concern that the agency had that terrorists could communicate, transfer funds or plan attacks via these types of games. and we are talking about very popular ones out there. this is second life. let me show you, let's see if we can get a full screen of this one. you can basically set up after avatars, i went into this one, which is some sort of medieval place. and then you can walk around, you can look at other characteristics that may be in the same world as you are. you can also buy things using their currency which is the lyndon dollar. and then that currency can be convertto u.s. dollars. there is -- converted to u.s. dollars. a document which i

. >> now google, microsoft, apple and facebook, they are usually fierce competitors, but today they are a few of the big-name technology companies coming together, demanding strict new curbs on government surveillance. the national security agency checked far more user data than the companies realize. i am joined by a national technology reporter for the washington post. are the tech companies here motivated by principle or profit? >> i am guessing both. nobody likes having their stuff stolen, and that is what has happened here. it is bad business for users to think their information is going to be stolen if they give it to google or yahoo. they knew they were giving information to the u.s. government under court order. but the extent has taken this them by shock. data was selected from fiber on particular cables over southeast. >> what about the chance of a new law being passed? >> hard to know where this is going. the u.s. congress is not known for its efficiency. this has gotten the world's attention. i think the shape is early to tell, but i wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of

-based internet giants this week, google, facebook, yahoo!, microsoft coming out and actually saying they thought the balance between the power of the state and the rights of individuals has gotten out of whack. >> the statement from the companies has enormous implications. one very thoughtful technology organization which intel belongs to, an important employer, in my state estimated that the damages in terms of lost revenues result of these nsa practices would approach $35 billion between now and 2016. and i think it is going to be bad for the country, bad for their customers here. bad for their brand overseas.

the letter signed by several tech companies, including apple, twitter, microsoft, google, facebook, linkedin and aol. >>> we continue our coverage now with scott mcgrew. and scott, is this tech trying to save face here? >> i think really, terry, it is. tech needs to be seen as doing something, something to protect you and your data. recently, google engineers took to google plus to vent their anger, using words we can't say on television. microsoft declared government spying a quote, advanced persistent threat, the same name they give hackers. others are encrypting data, trying to make it harder for spies to read. revelations from edward snowden is that the nsa not only watches traffic to and from sites like google, it actually monitors traffic between google's own computers inside the system. when those computers are based offshore. where american law is less restricted. some in the group headed to washington this morning say they're a bit concerned over the size of their entourage. a few people are influential. a big group is a photo op. our own ceo from comcast is part of the group. other

they are trying to do is anticipate what their clients need, so when a company like apple or google or microsoft comes to them and says, we want to develop this, they do have their offices in cupertino, but apple does develop a lot of their own technologies, but they work very closely with their manufacturing partners, such as foxconn, to figure out how to bring it to market and mass market, and that is one of the key things, mass production, so it foxconn is trying to anticipate the needs, and they can actually fulfill them. >> what do you think foxconn will be looking at other than wearable technology? >> well, one of the things that we can assume, and we certainly have not seen necessarily any evidence, is things that go further, such as medical devices, and that is similar to wearables and connected devices, but the thing with medical devices, we have aging populations in the u.s. and japan and even in china. things that can measure vital signs is certainly an area that foxconn would be interested in. in southern taiwan, to build software, to build the connectivity, they are looking on that.

it is something microsoft and google absolutely understand the risk of.is something publicly coming up. >> it is a bigger problem. inc. you very much. >> just a reminder, tomorrow we will bring you a special bloomberg west. blues --ave eggs with the interview paypal president and many more. we will also show you about new touchscreens. more bloomberg west after this back to bloomberg west. it we want to update you on the developing story, former south african president and worldwide symbol of freedom nelson mandela has died at the age of 95. tributes are coming in from around the world. here is president obama. sacrificing his own freedom for the freedom of others. he transformed south africa and moved all of us. his journey from a prisoner to a embodied the promise that human beings and countries cachange forhe better. the commitment to transfer power and reconcile with those who jailed him is an example that all humanity should aspire to. he joined the african national congress and worked to oppose apartheid. inwould be sentenced to life prison and rema

. >> companies like google, facebook, apple, microsoft, they provide the nsa direct access to the back ends of all of the systems you used to store data, to put things in the cloud, and even second birthday wishes. and they give nsa direct access that they don't need to oversee. >> these businesses are long complied with legal obligations to hand over certain information about suspicious customers. but revelations of data gathering without the company's knowledge has lead these tech ts to rethink their obligations. microsoft's general council spoke this week on the official company blog, many of our customers have serious concerns about government surveillance of the internet. we share their concerns, that's why we are taking legal steps to ensure governments use process rather than brute force to access customer data. we areess specially alarmed by recent articles in the press to sir couple event online security measures. google, twitter yahoo and now microsoft have expressed concerns over surveillance and are changing encryption technology they employ to protect their customers. publ

some of those presents like yahoo microsoft and google want us spying scaled back. the meeting comes just a day after a washington court ruled that mass government espionage is most likely unconstitutional data protection advocates say it's due process were applied then it's clear that the nsa is breaking us lots yes they really want to be open they would allow these programs. the challenge to open in federal court. you know for the past six years the government has been putting up every roadblock so that these programs can be a challenge in the regular court heard that we use everyday in this country instead. it's been done behind closed doors in the secret physic or where only the government gets to make an argument. edwards noted still hiding in russia while the midst of rolling and sent the nsa secret activities could not withstand exposure to scrutiny. that may happen first outside the u s intelligence officials in washington have criticized european parliament plans to questions sent in by video link. and in an open letter to the brazilian people the fugitive

earlier this week, eight major technology companies, including microsoft, google, apple, facebook and yahoo! released a set of five principles for surveillance reform. and citing the urgent need to reform government surveillance practices worldwide, the companies called for greater oversight and transparency. they also advocate for limits that would require the government to rely on targeted searches about specific individuals. rather than bulk collection of internet communication from all of us. i have introduced the usa freedom act with senator leahy here in the senate. i appreciate the support we've received from the technology industry. and i look forward to hearing their perspective on the second panel. and without objection, i'll place in the record the open letter reform principles from the technology companies. and earlier a lot of different technology companies applied in the usa freedom act. and they support it. coalition of civil society organization, companies, trade associations, and investors. without objection, that'll be part of the record. this report from the technol

your data is supposed to be safe with google or microsoft or other companies. they are pushing the cloud but it's the cloud that makes it easier for the nrs to root around in there. they are looking at everybody's data while looking for bad guys. there is concern also this morning that local police departments are taking a cue from the nsa, a congressional investigation found a number of city police agencies around the united states engage in the kind of data requests for cell phone records which leave them with enormous amounts of data about people not under suspicion. in stead of asking tell me where this person was when they made a call, they are asking all call data from the cell phone tower a data dump. other news, very solid news about the u.s. economy on friday, the labor department said 203,000 new jobs were created in the month of november, far more than economists expected. that pushes the unemployment rate to 7%, california as a state still lagging behind thanks to high unemployment in the central part of the state. but you look locally things are br

they are lowering microsoft -- andng microsoft and google startups to promote growth.think they could add 0.5% gdp. berlin, a lot of competition we are seeing. not to mention a tel aviv who want to be the biggest tech cup besides silicon valley. >> a lot of competition. caroline hyde there. she will be great with a good interviews. microsoft's head of cloud. in one of the internal candidates to take over steve ballmers job. we are taking you inside of ups. the biggest package job. they are using a system called orion. look at the took a facility. >> visit o'brien. the algorithm that makes ups take. >> uggla rhythm is not what -- all the rhythm is not what you m is not what you expect to hear a driver and ups. >> technology company that has trucks. >> it is a program 10 years in the making and subjective to find the fastest and most fuel- efficient way to get packages to your doorstep. >> with a 120 deliveries on a driver, there are now seconds. urion is looking at trillions of things. it will run torture thousand alternatives. -- 200,000 alternatives and find the best

some of those present like microsoft, yahoo!, and google want u.s.-spying scaled back. data protection advocates say is a due process were applied, then it is clear the nsa is breaking u.s. laws. >> if they wanted to be open, they would allow these programs to be challenged in federal court. the government has been putting up every roadblock so these programs cannot be challenged in the regular court that we use every day in this country. only the government gets to make an argument. >> edward snowden is still hiding in russia. he says the secret activities could not withstand exposure to scrutiny. that may happen first outside of the u.s. intelligence officials have criticized european parliament plans to question him by video link. and in an open letter to the brazilian people, the intelligence contractor offered to help a congressional probe there. the u.s. is looking into spying on -- and other civilians. >> how has washington been responding? how significant is this and will he nsa be rolled back? >> we will have to wait and see for that because president obama got

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. >> tech titans were here at the white house - google, microsoft, yahoo, netflix. they are concerned. they feel their businesses are at stake. the privacy of customers is at stake. they want accountability, transparency, restrictions on government spying, internet spying and telephonic spying. the meeting in the roosevelt room lasted two hours. problems that beset that were on the table. at the top of the agenda was the revelations for spying. at the end of the meeting collectively the tech companies issued a statement saying, "we appreciate the opportunity to... : >> as we know the president received recommendations from the advisory committee that he put in place last august at the height of the snowden controversy, the revelations about the spying, the scope of the spying that caused controversy around the world. jay carney gave the white house version of that meeting. >> he made clear because of the remarkable advancements in technology, that the united states has both led the way and been able to take advantage of, as has other countries. we need to look at ou

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so complex and we have more complex things in this country and how they didn't use the great microsoft or google and almost definitely it would have been fine, perfect. at this point, i really think websites are not easily patched. they're trying to do a patch. >> let's fix and do all sorts of things to get it going, what's happening, they're missing a lot. security is gone and insurance companies thinking they have people they don't and people calling insurance companies and finding out they don't have coverage and thought they had it. as you know, you lost 55 million plans. it's terrible. >> we only have a minute left. i'm curious. are you more in favor of a governor who has executive experience or hasn't. would this have made any difference in your mind? >> i am in favor of having somebody who is extremely competent and smart. how about the skills set? is the job so you almost need a ceo. a lot of people who run for office come out of the senate or house and some come out of running states. >> whether you have a great business person, a great governor or great even senator, i know a lot of pe

google, microsoft, apple, facebook, twitter, linked in, yahoo! and aol sent an open letter to congress, calling for reforms and restrictions on how the government collects data on internet users. they also want government agencies to be more transparent on what they're looking for. >>> well, some of the tech companies have seen their share prices soar this year, but not every company has been so foreig fortunate. we take a look at some of the stocks. >> reporter: dogs to darlings, when one of the biggest losers one year turn into rising stars the next. it is a trend that the portfolio managers watch closely. >> it is almost a wall street tradition but not one lightly taken, and especially in a year where you have seen significant out-performance by many stocks. >> it happened last year when bank of america more than doubled. one of the top gainers in the s&p 500. a year after it lost 58% signs of recovery in the housing market and better than expected earnings were good for bank stocks in 2012. on the other hand, best buy, hp, pitney bowes, among

that the government should get out of the business of breaking encryption, and instead help microsoft, google, other american vendors who are trying to create [inaudible] why would they say that? two reasons. one is, the american business community has come to the government, come to the president and said, you are undercutting the competitiveness of american business. if the chinese or japanese believe anything they put in the cloud or anything that runs through the u.s. or any american equipment they buy has a back door in it in the encryption system that can take that data and dump it to the nsa, they're not going to buy american goods. i was in germany two weeks ago. the head of deutsche telekom is talking about having a german- only subset of the internet, somehow in the thought this would protect them from the nsa. what is happening here is that the snowden revelation has brought out all of these not only nationalistic but protectionist forces who want to say, here's a reason not to buy american. the snowden spy scandal may be the first spy scandal that has more of an economic effect th

earlier this week, eight major technology companies, including microsoft, google, apple, facebook, yahoo! received -- released a set of principles for surveillance reform. the urgent need to report government surveillance at -- practices worldwide call for greater transparency. for theo wanted limits government to rely on targeted searches about specific individuals. introduced the freedom act in the senate. i appreciate the support. we have received support from the technology industry and i look forward to hearing their perspective on the second panel. i will place on the record the open letter report from these technology companies. and i will place an earlier letter from other companies. a coalition from for civil society organizations. and investors. that will be part of the record. support for the technology industry is -- needs bipartisan support. organizations across the spectrum have endorsed this bill. i think various senators for their cosponsorship. this is bipartisan and it is also bicameral legislation. it makes real necessary reforms. i want input on the legislation. i loo

earlier this week, eight major technology companies, including microsoft, google, apple, facebook, yahoo! received -- released a set of principles for surveillance reform. the urgent need to report government surveillance at -- practices worldwide call for greater transparency. they also wanted limits for the government to rely on targeted searches about specific individuals. i've introduced the freedom act in the senate. i appreciate the support. we have received support from the technology industry and i look forward to hearing their perspective on the second panel. i will place on the record the open letter report from these technology companies. and i will place an earlier letter from other companies. and a letter from a coalition for civil society organizations. and investors. that will be part of the record. support for the technology industry is -- needs bipartisan support. organizations across the spectrum have endorsed this .spectru have endorsed this bill. i think various senators for their cosponsorship. this is bipartisan and it is also bicameral legislation. it makes real ne

the group which includes google, microsoft, yahoo! and twitter have written a letter calling for an end to mass collection of user information like e-mail and contact lists. the move comes in the wake of the leaks on u.s. spying programs by edward snowden. back to you. >> thanks very much. >> time to check the forecast right now. my mouth still frozen this morning. >> understandable. it's very cold out there. you know what, this has been a prolonged cold spell in the bay area. we're not going to get out of it for a couple days. keep those winter gloves, everything you need handy. 25 in fairfield, 22 very cold in petaluma, 23 to start the day in santa rosa. i want to take to you the city of san francisco. a lot of people here park outdoors and it's cold enough for frost just about everywhere. give yourself extra time. and yeah, you might be scraping frost off the windshield. warm up your vehicle as well. we hit the 20s, 29 in redwood city, 26 in atherton, to the south bay it's cold in places like campbell, 28 degrees. and los gatos is

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. >> reporter: from apple versus samsung to microsoft versus google, the smartphone wars continue.b as much as the estimated $300 billion market. >> we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas. >> reporter: and it often boils down to who owns the right patent. >> the patent system has been like the wild west with no sheriff in sight. >> reporter: a fight that can cost millions forcing product redesign but for startups. >> it's just devastating. >> reporter: it can cost everything. >> this could put us out of business. >> reporter: forcing the end. >> i'm worried about shallows. >> kate got her mba from stanford in 2011 and launched ditto.com less than a year later. if features technology that allows users to virtually try on eye wear. >> we assess we did not infringe on any issued patent that existed out there. >> reporter: the startup raised $3 million in venture capital. >> over 100,000 people have come to our website. >> but one of those users was not the typical ditto customer. >> the management team from 1-080 contacts and glasses.com came to our website to use it

is a really complex thing that in this case is not so complex how they didn't use the great microsoft or googlemost definitely it would have been fine, it would have been perfect. web sites are not easily patched. they are trying to do a a patch. in other words, let's fix and mend and do all sorts of things and let's see if we can get it going. and what's happening is they are missing a lot. the security is gone. insurance companies are finding out that they think they have people that they don't. people are calling the -- people can calling the insurance companies and finding out they don't have coverage. and they thought they had it. and you -- as you know, you have lost 55 million plans. it's terrible. >> all right. let me -- we only have a minute left. i'm curious. rumor in favor, theoretically, of having a governor as a president or someone who has had executive experience rather than someone who hasn't? would it this have made any difference whatsoever in your mind? i'm in favor of something somebody who is extremely competent and smart. >> how about the skill set? a lot of people come ou

microsoft and google joined by apple, yahoo, facebook, twitter, and linked into present a plan to the president and congress on regulating online spying and how the u.s. can put in place a worldwide effort to enforce it. also sponsoring full-page ads, starting a website with a list of their concerns. adam: apple another step closer, set to take preorders from iphones this week. reports say the website is inviting customers to order the iphone 5s on thursday, coming as the mobile giant gets closer to launching 4g service and advertised sales for other smart phones that support the new network. kandi crush, everybody is playing it. the game's huge success is the designers big fear. why it is delaying the public offering, straight ahead. lori: you eat chocolate, i know that much. gearing up for their biggest time of the year. must-see "your wish list" series. adam: americans are losing their taste for beer. a closer look behind the drop in brew sales. capital to make it happen? without the thinking that makes it real? what's a vision without the expertise to execute it... and the financi

interestingly enough, apple in with microsoft, google, and the others. >> wow.g the consignment store online by offering a platform for customer boz-t to resell old clothes and giving them a cut of the profits. ceo of thread up and jon fortt here at post 9. good to have you. >> thanks for having me. not only was i not aware of the space, but also the competition that is within it already. how active is it? >> it's a huge space. we're seeing folks funded every few months a new competitor online. it validates our leadership early bringing consignment online. >> jamess, interesting space, my sister-in-law used it for her daughter's who is a toddler. my concern is inventory. you've expanded. women's clothes in there now. from my glance, more than 130,000 women's items now. a lot more than you have for boys or girls. is that a problem? are you going to be able to turn that inventory over or write it off? >> yeah, sure. we focus on buying at right price. we think about ourselves as arbitrage business. these aren't mercedes s classes, it's clothing that moves through t

a grouch of text titans were here, google. microsoft, netflix - they are concerned. they feel their businesses are at stake, and want the government to ease off. the privacy of customers is at stake. they want act ability, transparency and restrictions on government spying, internet spying and telephonic spying. the meeting in the roovt veldt west wing lasted two hours. longer than expect. and also the healthcare.gov problems were on the table. at the top of the agenda was the revelations of n.s.a. spying. collectively the tech companies issued a statement reading in part: >> as we know the president received recommendations from the policy committee and advisory committee that he put in place, the revelations about the widespread spying, the scope of the spying that caused controversy around the world. the white house spokesman gave the white house version of that meeting. >> he made clear that because of the remarkable advancements in technology, that the united states has both led the way and been able to take advantage of, but as have other countries, we need to