cheryl: microstar hopkins to you. you have been criticizing this policy.tic leader pelosi, listen. >> they understand the damage that is done when stress is expected on children by separating them from their families. and so this is not an immigration issue. this is humanitarian issue. >> my question to you is will they ever come to the table to exploit. microstar hopkins. >> democrats have brought forth multiple immigration bills. the presidents refuse to sign any of them. blaming democrats is a copout. republicans and democrats come together in rebuke the president. in november this is very dangerous territory for the president, but good territory for america. gerri: the president going to the hill today with two bills. ill be interesting to see if they have traction. the dhs secretary kirstjen nielsen saying they are facing an onslaught of children. things have changed here. michael barnes, what you said about? >> the situation in central america is bad. when you are dealing with potentially your outcomes. one is to release them as which creates an ince