uh, the middle east africa africa, which would seem hundreds of years hundreds of thousands even sleptassure you that in 20 years, if the situation continues and it is possible to form some kind of new system, history will look completely different and historians and uh, europe european. we have a mostly european history, where europe or the european view dominates, even if this history of china , the chinese will never agree with it. i timidly told you about the third century bc asynchrony for us is a struggle, by the way, if carthage won, then there was not much. perhaps there would be no christianity. it would be closer to the phoenician civilization, therefore, yes, this is another question, but it must be said that they are my rights , justified rights, just as the struggle is going on now, for example, even about whether there was a special chinese person counted numerous e , representatives of primitive species, we know that this non-linear process was all this, therefore, i think that history will change a lot, world history and history each country will have to find its histor

africa. north africa. middle east. iran. india. greenland. northeast. canada. newfoundland. bermuda. trinidad, panama. northwest canada. alaska. hawaii. australia. new caledonia and fiji in new york, the army's overseas motion service handles the complex problems wartime shipment with rain. three new features every week 63 prints per subject donated by the motion picture industry eight pop priority is granted those responsible moving the 16 millimeter films to the combat area. the objective not only to give the troops the best in entertainment pictures, but also get the films on screens overseas as preview performances or at least to show them simultaneously with our release. the states a staggering assignment this considering the distant land to be read yet global shrink before today's transportation and air express with military right away is just kind of handling most of these shipments receive receive film distribution moving in trend of the times faster than ever before. $1,000,000 worth of morale wrapped in each carton programs for shipment by passport are created and rushed to ports of embarkation ammunition. predator. unreal span the universe stretching out to the 19 central depots and. then the flow to the pinpoint fighting outposts on the earth's surface. not a single area will be overlooked no matter how many, whether potential audience be 10,000 or just a handful of 11 or 12 is of no the movies will reach. and here they are. over there, films to be routed through exchanges and sub exchanges. the thousands of exhibition points from the very first moment the new pictures touch foreign soil. they see few idle moments. five months is the playoff time or life of. the average feature arriving overseas. during that time, the emotion is literally worn from the film by projection, leaving this one exchange in new delhi. the pictures branch out to serve circuit a far flung area. today, you can safely say that a tactical map is also army film distribution by stretching for countless miles in every direction. but this is only beginning. from here on, the films equipment must be moved to the interior must be moved by whatever modes of transport are available and those that can be improvised naturally. much is contingent on the risk and terrain but it can be said that wherever a supplies are moved, by what means they are moved. so the films are carried right up to threshold of battle. in the skies over the battle scarred southwest pacific area. film containers are part of the cargo route from new caledonia. it was strategic island outpost below is bougainville. similar landings are made throughout the solomon islands and surrounding areas where our hard fighting troops are making it up for the -- and the welcome passengers begin the last leg of their journey, moving right up with the mail bag, letters from home and movies that i at the bougainville roxy roxy. the films are greeted long lost friends. we able eager warriors converge on their little theater as the word races through camp. a brief low means that some of the men can see the new show while others keep up the jungle. what. the names of these island battlegrounds familiar to all who follow the war on the pacific. yet how many know that men starved for entertainment are carving their own makeshift theaters out of a tangled wilderness? these scenes and all that follow were photographed by combat camera crew. this is the real mccoy spot coverage that breeds realism and all that has been written about the average g.i. and his craving for motion picture wire reels, coconut logs for seats in a palm grove selected for added atmosphere. they even line up all the empty gas barrels inside anything that can be sat on ingenuity, boredom, necessity and their arrangement makes good right up to the placement of the projection booth. sometimes rear echelon can go in for fancier and more permanent structures. this is the best in the area, but fancy or otherwise. the same results produced countless thousands of war miles, millions of troops heterogeneous in other respects, yet maintaining a mutual interest screen entertainment, more. here are promotions reduced to their simplest formula men weary from battle and long trek through the no man's land of a score, a front men grasping for that which symbolizes home and loved ones and enjoyment of life. strange appetites can now be satiated satiated. and what. well, for those resting behind the lines, while recovering from battle wounds, there is interest and appeal in the motion picture. time passes easier and more quickly imaginations of stimulated and the scars of combat. for the moment. waiting for the show the early birds gets the best vantage points land leave groups of allied nations, the welcome mat wherever films are for american doughboys. us special treat tonight new zealanders fighting side by side with the yanks in wept and eat it jungle. boy. rain is barrier no show must go shielded by jungle poncho and another covering our troops up through the pouring rain store. and it would be bad for the operator where he does stop the show. army nurses that are not just those fighting front a notice is posted not said womans the same the army or out. and. nepal where we finding our record taking a fire on a gas buggy minus the familiar way their heading for the movie in big. the problem is much more simple just find the right kind of auditorium and you can give the man the same presentation they used to get it home. how. in the outlying areas along the italian front mobile units doing the job of bringing the movies to the troops. most our outfits only show about three nights a week, so it's not uncommon for the men to visit another camp close by, even though they see the same picture as the night before. come and see it, man and that they do. it's the same story each time operations permit time out for one of the bigger problems is getting sufficient films to the right at the right time. 1500 and more shows a night with a five and a half million weekly attendances big time exhibition. naturally, every soldier wants to see a brand new film, something you can write home about, like world premiere on an airplane mounted screen. but demand and supply always coincide, although the army's doing everything possible with in limitations to rush the in screen entertainment to its men wherever they may be stationed. included the screenings for troops and convoys, every ocean and for patients, hospital ship by supplying the films, the motion picture industry is creating goodwill that could not be bought at any price. there should be ample reward and merely the scenes that are to follow. excerpt from five typical features all ready shipped overseas. we'll help to illustrate the joy and appreciation of servicemen and women the world over like. can i. to them always never them. and if they don't. where have you been? with my daughter live now and i'm morning and i don't want to hear it i up about a little accident on the way home what a flat tire or falling asleep the movies but it's not the way pop it may not be like where you come from, where i don't say something. don't make noise. wait a minute. when you get back in a half hour, if one more chance. what i had. that's what i what i. what worse is all. those. i want to save all my. and spare now. you can't help yourself because your. your inside. hello. hello. i planted a row. let there be rose. from. your and. are. in. my voice. i. have to be. i love here. i love you. you i do me. you are now in heaven and on honor your life begins so better that. this has been the real life portrayal of the average soldier and his reaction to entertainment film. he likes them. he wants them to keep on coming and more often the army is official appreciation is voiced by lieutenant general brigham somerville, accepting for our troops. 10,000 will be presented by motion picture industry or overseas. his exhibition general somerville recently i have visited australia, india china and africa and i know from observation what these motion pictures mean to the men overseas. while it would be difficult to place a value on his program, the motion picture industry is providing. we do know this the morale of our troops is high. the laughter and general entertain, which comes out of a single small package like this one have helped to build that morale. or watch online on c-span.org/history. >> in "travels with george: in search of washington and his

africa let them also teach them, because they lived at the expense of the former ussr, pumping everything out and at the expense of africa , the middle east, from the middle east they are throwing out africaere is still a war ahead, now, returning to the speech of the president and poland, what does the president mean, and what is the tragedy of the current situation for the poles in the first place, the tragedy is that both the british and the americans will never fight for europe, when i listen to the speech representative of the us state department who says we will defend every centimeter of polish land, when a fake was born that supposedly belarusian helicopters had flown somewhere, it’s clear why he was born, but in order to justify, uh, the transfer of troops to our border from poland is everything. it is true, the poles themselves know this, but this is a tragedy, whatever happens. here poland will be thrown into this war. it has no sovereignty, the polish people. does not want to fight 99% polyakov wants good relations with us to buy food travel live trade this is a normal desire of people to leave them, but no one will ever fight for them again with shells. again , the delivery o

control them in places where they've been for quite take 40 years now, like in the middle east and africa, notably in africa. and here, there are different times. so it is. and we know from the past couple of years as the children have had difficulty, raining in wagner in places like olivia so then natalie and other places. because they've basically been sort of financing sort of a whole rating and been able to almost run a ton. obviously away from the russian authorities, but now that. busy that machine, what we've seen, that last 3 months, and russia being russia, is superpower and so, so forth. and autocrats being and the covenants i think we didn't get in within russia should not be as difficult as some of our western guests would suggest. so from within a rush or itself, let's just look at the other side of what might have happened. it might well as being a mechanical failure on this plane. but does it even think in the fact that people will still assume that the hands of the kremlin was involved regardless. so there was another narrative that must go has to control from within its own borders. in term

international aid that has gone towards tackling in towards tackling fgm in the in the east, africa that the middle east, in africaemen, a war zone which needs. that's which actually needs. that's not. but your not. no, no, no. but your argument to be against argument seems to be against your seems to your argument seems to be against international aid altogether. international aid is beneficial britain on some beneficial for britain on some very worthy causes around the world, we should be proud. world, which we should be proud. >> charities . >> charities. >> charities. >> is tiny. we >> albie aid is tiny. we shouldn't budget some shouldn't be budget some fantastic publicly funded charities public will support. >> and that's where the aid should from. it should be a should come from. it should be a trickle down, a, hey, we're trickle down, not a, hey, we're going to take your money going to take your tax money while you're all suffering, aren't even your energy while you're all suffering, aren'tyou n your energy while you're all suffering, aren'tyou just your energy while you're all suffering, aren'tyou just abd

and thousands accepting and i quote, thousands of illegal immigrants from the middle east and africa . middle east and africaes further on to say, under the forced relocation mechanism imposed by the european bureaucracy . so to the european bureaucracy. so to be clear, this is a divvying up of the illegals who have entered the european land mass and the european union has decided where they're going to be put within they're going to be put within the member states without their being consulted . fashion other being consulted. fashion other than a vote at the european parliament. you and i know beunda parliament. you and i know belinda is at best shall we say, fig leaf democracy . so the fig leaf democracy. so the poush fig leaf democracy. so the polish you're saying we don't want to be told what to do. we're going to hold a referendum on it. so what i want to hear from you, ivan, do they have a legal right to do that? or as a lawyer, would you be challenging that? as we've seen and that? as we've seen time and time uk? time again in the uk? >> well, look, the poland is part the european convention >> well,

i'm much more comfortable in the middle east, north africa or africa and south america.think that's where you're going to see real potential growth over time. okay, peter, we had president biden calling china a ticking bomb. yellen says the slowdown in china will impact the us economy. given the kind of macro environment, i mean, how should your portfolio look like? where do you seek shelter? where do you find returns? yeah. so very briefly, academy has 17 retired generals and admirals that serve as our geopolitical intelligence group, and we've been fairly negative on our relationship with china going back four years. it's a bit unfortunate every time wall street kind of catches up with us, we've actually moved further and we're still there. we're there with this friction with china. so i think what you want to do is look for countries that can benefit from china trying to sell into them, be a little bit more aggressive in their trade. so think parts of emerging markets will do. i think when you analyze japan, i think japan becomes interesting as people try and figure o

africa south africa east and west africa as well as central africa the part that is important to us which is actually the term horn of africa, muslim countries are more important than other middle classes and because of the cultural and religious relations that these east african countries such as uganda , zimbabwe and beyond your presence, kenya and countries that are in the financial discussion and in fact, sudan, which is located in this part, and in terms of cultural interactions , we were actually connected with this part since the achaemenid period, and for this reason, the development of political and economic relations with this part of the african continent was easier and better for us. during the visit of the president, we will also check that he is in the same area in fact, they did it, and from this point of view, we can consider this part as important for our own country in terms of economic and commercial interactions . the continent of africa last year, if i'm not mistaken , was about 1200 billion dollars, and our share is only about 1 million. it was 200 million dollars, how can we increase my share? see, in 11 years, the area of ​​the region is from africa, and

the united states will not have this process back to sleep not turn the middle east has changed over in africa the real war for africareally? as our president says, the summit of african countries in russia is theirs, because what europe has. they are only used to downloading the whole world from these colonies for them, the whole world is a colony, and they perceive us as a colony, that they didn’t turn off anything remind us after the collapse of the ussr they all began to take away the best minds from us resources, and in return they sent us chicken legs, which are all their help. it's a lie, it's always been instead of taking away a million, they will give help for a penny today they plundered ukraine and took it away. it has all the national wealth , arable land, natural resources of the people of the enterprise, and they pretend that you have taken billions to help, and give 100,000, but they still have a control lever. this is a sanction. you know that e did not stop working in many cases, because, for example, in the water sanctions against belarus, russia , they had two dreams, the first dream was to destroy

africa and the middle east that stand a chosen bank. welcome to the diabetes africa, rosie. as so e, c o, p, a and egypt has been invited to join bricks. we know that they were of the african countries who have that same ambition. how did these 2 countries make the cut? thank you, christine. that is a very good question, and i think to understand this, we need to look at the context of how this grouping came about. it started out earlier on when countries like brazil, india, china, was seen amongst the false to growing economy. it's globally. and the idea was to create something off and on the line to movement, perhaps a recreation of what had already been the made up of this grouping of countries. but economically we're doing back much better major re magic ball kits. now with the announcement the signals, the 1st time since 2010 that that has been any agreements and they kind of consensus on an expansion of that grouping. so the question many will have is, what does this ultimately mean for african economies? we know, but a lot of what is expressed by the big brakes grouping. let's look again at the global financial architecture. let's ask questions about whether this is actually working for developing countries. actually meeting the needs of developing countries. south africa has been at the forefront of suggesting that maybe that is a case very full of the global financial architecture. but when it comes to the very specific needs of african countries, it has been less adapt less gridable at delivery and russ. yep. we know that breaks countries now have this ambition to, to sort of reduce this width in economic dominance that we have in the global world, or that one of the conversations is that they want to stop using the dollar for trade between bricks countries. they've been told of creating a new car and see instead of the toilet, it doesn't appear that they've had success on that front. so could you stop by telling us what is the advantage of not using the dollar to trade? and why is that seemingly so difficult to do? okay, so i think there are 2 very important different pups to this, and it's an important distinction, but needs to be made. first of all, is this just about facilitating global trade and the great to use of local currencies in that glob

africa, africa certainly important to the west. you know, the middle east of scary funding piece of funding, trying to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the subsidies and they're trying to do the same thing with the turks and the syrian. so this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace in, in the middle east, particularly because they don't want to lose the momentum behind russia and china. the top soldier in china was that as conference, i use the platform to warn the west off regarding taiwan. if i want, of course, a territory the united states over it, he says is chinese territory. and here's this one china policy. but over a fee then is advertising to send weapons and cause further if you like, disquiet in the region. also mentioned by sort of a show you at this conference was the idea that's in the, in the pacific stuff. nasal. the north atlantic treaty organization is also looking to influence countries in the, in the pacific, this defensive alliance, now trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media, but russia persist in giving these platforms to countries who are previously own heard of africa in the middle east to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship which i think is key to the future of breaks on multi polarity worth. to discuss this in depth. i'm joining the studio by real honda, how rude professor at the national defense university of malaysia. welcome. thank you. and so you were just at the conference at the mazda security conference. what were your 1st impressions of what you witnessed? thank you very much for inviting me to this to you. in fact, i'm very happy to be back in moscow and especially at the time when i think it's a very special movement and you know, uh, changes occurring in the international politics and my impression of the conference was that the but it's very, very, an important meeting where you are joined by many different people with different opinions, but i think we all could agree that there's a need for the change in the international law. 76 countries participated in the security confere

africa, africa certainly important to the west. you know, the middle east of scary funding piece funding, trying to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the saudis and that they're trying to do the same thing with the turks and the syrian. so this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace and in the middle east, particularly because they don't want to lose the momentum of behind russia and china. the top soldier in china was at this conference. i use the platform to warn the wes off regarding taiwan. if i want to course a territory the united states over k says is chinese territory. and here's this one china policy, but over a fee then is advertising to send weapons and cause further if you like, disquiet in the region. also mentioned by sort of a show you at this conference was the idea of this in the, in the pacific stuff, nasal. the north atlantic treaty organization is also looking to influence countries in the, in the pacific. this defense of alliance, now trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media, but russia persist in giving these platforms to countries who are previously hired in africa in the mid least to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship which i think is key to the future of breaks and multiple already with the rest of the ministry of defense has released the statement revealing the murky activities of the united states military. the ministry says that washington's office of pandemic preparedness and response policy searches for virus mutations to then use them to further its own interest. as a 2019 united states begin preparing for a new pandemic by searching for virus mutations, we did not exclude use by the united states of the so called defensive technologies for offensive purposes. as well as for the purpose of global management by creating crisis situations of a biological nature. according to the ministry, washington has been a massing of various pathogens from its direct involvement with various bar lives around the world, which they say are for research and preventative measures bought rushes, def

africa, africa certainly important to the west. you know, the middle east is getting funding piece, funding to try to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the saudis and they're, they're trying to do the same thing with the turks and the syrian. so this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace in, in the middle east particularly, but because they don't want to lose the momentum behind russia and china. the pop soldier in china was a, this conference. i use the platform to warn the wes off regarding taiwan if i want, of course, the territory the united states over he says, is chinese territory in a 2 years? this one china policy, but overfeed in his advertising, defend weapons, and cause further, if you like, disquieting, the region also mentioned by sort of a show you at this a conference was the idea that's in the, in the pacific step nasal. the north atlantic treaty organization is also looking to influence countries in the in the pacific is defensive alliance. now trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media, but russia persist in giving these platforms to countries who are previously own heard of africa in the middle east to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship which i think is key to the future of breaks and multiple, already with the yeah for can union has rejected a military solution to the situation and these year after tense discussion, according to diplomats, after the 10 hour talks, the union stated that it will this associate itself from equal was with the experts suggesting that ego was, will find it difficult to use force without the african unions approval. to discuss this, we now cross live to local journalists. timothy will be due for more details. good afternoon, timothy. what can you tell us about the latest developments regarding new year? yes, basically what's that? it's the son of the applicant, you and beyond, you know, not to support and for us. and it's quest, when the invading is that what it's method through for us that goes to show you know, a kind of a division in the future. and you know, in terms of b

africa, africa certainly important to the west. you know, the middle east is getting funding piece, funding to try to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the saudis and they're trying to do the same thing with the turks and the syrian. so this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace in, in the middle east particularly, but because they don't want to lose the momentum behind russia and china. the pop soldier in china was as conference. i use the platform to warn the west off regarding taiwan if i want, of course, the territory the united states over he says is chinese territory. and here's this one china policy. but over if he then is advertising to send weapons and cause further, if you like, disquieting, the region also mentioned by sort of a show you at this a conference was the idea that's in the, in the pacific stuff, nasal. the north atlantic treaty organization is also looking to influence countries in the in the pacific. this defense of alliance, now trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media, but russia persist in giving these platforms to countries who are previously own heard of africa in the middle east to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship which i think is key to the future of breaks and multiple already. well, let's turn to the latest on the situation and these year now, following the recent to am yes and i'll make community of central african states has given us back into the eco, was grouping of west african nations over its stance against the qu government, and gave me, the nigerian president, welcome the solidarity among the blocks. i appreciate the solidarity and support of present bone go on the situation in new year where working not to compound the problem, i understand the fear of our people when any form of military action. we're working to keep the sanctions in place and we're following them to the ledger. the same, it causes just a head of a meeting of equal was chief of staff on the news year crisis which picks off on thursday. potential military intervention is still on the agenda as a deadl

africa, africa certainly important to the west. you know, the middle east of scary funding piece funding, trying to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the subsidies and they're trying to do the same thing with the turks and the syrian. so this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace and in the middle east, particularly because they don't want to lose the momentum of behind russia and china. the top soldier in china was at this conference. i use the platform to warn the wes off regarding taiwan. if i want to course a territory the united states over he says is chinese territory and tiers. this one china policy, but over a fee then is advertising to send weapons and cause further if you like, disquiet in the region. also mentioned by sort of a show you at this conference was the idea of this in the, in the pacific stuff, nasal. the north atlantic treaty organization is also looking to influence countries in the in the pacific. this defense of alliance, now trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media, but russia persist in giving these platforms to countries who are previously own heard of africa in the middle east to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship which i think is key to the future of breaks and multiple already we were talking to the full, my austria and foreign minister. karen, can i so now she believes the most good form reflects of a new world order, ultimately speak in multi polarity. i am i to pull the world has been develop thing over the last 2 decades. the car in put it, terry situation is excessive rating of phenomena, a trend effect that is already there and, and much for the world, for, for sure. with the touchable stable worlds because just plastic, like in physics, you need more phyllis on which other roofer sites. and so things are accelerated by military developments. and so we can see that the world is much bigger than hamden, northwest and hemisphere. and this, as i reflected into this conference as well as the a lot of power on the trex going on. we have seen the envoy of the chinese government

africa, africa is solely important to the west. you know, the middle east of scary funding piece funding, trying to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the saudis and they're, they're trying to do the same thing with the turks and the syrian. so this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace in, in the middle east, particularly because they don't want to lose the momentum behind russia and china. the top soldier in china was at this conference. i use the platform to warn the wes off regarding taiwan. if i want, of course, a territory the united states over it, he says is chinese territory. and here's this one china policy. but over a fee then is advertising to send weapons and cause further. if you like disquiet in the region also mentioned by survey, show you at this conference was the idea that's in the, in the pacific stuff. nasal. the north atlantic treaty organization is also looking to influence countries in the, in the pacific. this defense of alliance. now, trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media. but russia persist in giving these platforms to countries who are previously hired in africa, in the mid least to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship, which i think is key to the future of breaks and multiple i already was another of my colleagues fiorella, isabel, withdrawing dirty or bible. how is how rude malaysian academic, specializing and national defense that they discussed? the emerging movers and shakers in the asia pacific and the former imperial powers that still will sway in the reach. you know, this tough countries in terms of economy, they are in asia pacific. if trying now you have india and it's an area with very, very high a population and diversity of countries of identity. and of course, and besides that, you also have a, it's also a region of attention. everything that the world should pay attention to. and the major powers or their united states as part of the issue. basically you have in japan, you have china, yes. of india. and you have other countries such as australia, now coming up the alignin

africa in the middle east really came in handy in syria for example. we work mostly on open terrain and then ukraine. there were a lot of fields in northern africa. we gain huge experience in urban fighting. such experiences really helps to a lot more just the bread, north africa we get into lots available and come that experience. while in the middle east it was mostly open to brain, was that and nbc a, our loan tell us a deal with pods and was that it was during their sense in the central african republic when the group 1st became famous or what others have called instant this, after the murder of 3 russian during the less to a supposedly there. so i'm going to documentary about wagner is activities. the case is still shrouded in mystery. and there are many theories as to what actually happened to them. as for locals, they have always expressed gratitude for the groups presence and support of the with the health of the wagner group. in our soldiers, we know that things will get better, bought a swab. do i truly believe that the wagner group will do far, much better than france? the minnesota probation and ukraine began, and baldness switched focus. even though he was described as ruthless, and that times vicious, he always seemed to have the utmost respect f

africa, africa is certainly important to the west. you know, the middle east of scary funding piece of funding, trying to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the saudis and the they're trying to do the same thing with the parts and the syrian. so this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace and in the middle east, you take, you know, because they don't want to lose the momentum behind russia and china and this conference again, it demonstrates the idea that russia and china and again, the russian the chinese, the pop soldier in china was at this conference. i use the platform to warn the wes off regarding the taiwan, taiwan, of course, the territory that united states over cuz he says is chinese territory in a 2 years. this one china policy, but over a fee then is advertising to send weapons and cause further if you like at this quiet in the region. also mentioned by sort of a show you at this conference was the idea that in the, in the pacific step nasal, the north atlantic treaty organization is also looking to influence countries in the, in the pacific. this defense of alliance, now trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media, but russia for assisting giving these platforms to countries who are previously on heard africa in the middle east to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship which i think is cheap, the future of breaks and multiple, i already really think, i think, absolutely right. sure. and then one of the things that showing you what was mentioned in goals i put in as well with what was what you were saying there, about nato, essentially trying to spread eastwood's inter the eastern theater. the with the, with the oil coast pack. well, australia, japan, south korea, and now essentially the west is moving to kind of incorporate nate's owens, this august pack, which means nato originally designed to defend against the soviet union. so many decades ago was now doing what spreading all the way around the world to shape bose was a pleasure. thank you very much. well, the former officer in the 4 minutes, the chiron cannot. so he's been on c o nazi a number of times we have plenty of opportunities to speak to her and she believes that this must

it start, and it starts in iraq, east syria, east and north africa, it starts well, the dust starts in north africa, sometimes it is transported by the middle currents, except to iran, and the color changes in one region, distant regions also undergo changes our recent studies show that the severity of desertification land destruction is at least one million dollars per year, temperature increase, decrease in rainfall , followed by erosion and destruction in the arid and semi-desert climate of our country, aggravates the phenomenon of dust from about 30 million hectares of hot spots prone to daily dust. our region and the middle east are located in an area that has mainly faced low rainfall and the increasing trend of drought in recent years. underground we have not managed it well, we are facing a lot of exploitation of the people with many joys in this period, with farshid the phenomenon of drought and scientific change of desert areas has also spread in neighboring countries and from about 270 million hectares of dust-prone centers to about 150 million tomans of dust particles are held towards different parts of the country. the largest

africa, but across north africa and the middle east, parts of uh, south america, parts of southeast asia. and that's because without the millions of tons of grain that have been shipped out of ukraine, which is a global producer of la grange, this is making it very difficult for these countries to feed their people. and so, unless you can actually get the situation in ukraine, result actually restore the black go see the green initiative so that the cargo ships can bring that green out of ukraine and distributed worldwide. you're going to see rising rates of mel nutrition in these countries. you're going to see rising rates or perhaps of starvation in countries that were already dealing with a mel nutrition, not a problem, particularly in the horn of africa, ad you, the efforts that russia has made in the past week to try to fill that gap have been poll 3 at best, and that is something which the u. s. has been very quick to point out that russia might be trying to expand its influence in sub saharan africa, but it's not doing so in a way that would actually make a positive difference in the lives of those people in those countries. yeah, it seems like a so much is riding on the security of that part of the mostly in jordan live in washington dc. thank you. it's like say, let's take a look now, just one of the many reasons why initialize debility is so crucial to the united states. kimberly around 1100 us soldiers, a station that basis across the country was the community just to kind of had the us defense department. we called all active service personnel back to the barracks . they've been there since july. the 26th us forces in asia are a combination of special forces, monday, across town, support staff for surveillance, and count as t

it start and it starts in iraq, east syria, east and north africa, it starts well, the dust starts in north africa, sometimes it is transferred by the middle currents, except to iran, the color changes our recent studies show that the intensity of desertification in one region and remote areas has changed for at least 1 million years per year, the increase in temperature, decrease in rainfall followed by erosion and destruction in the dry and semi-desert climate of our country has intensified the phenomenon of dust. from about 30 million hectares of hot spots it has been internalized and the middle east has been placed in a range that mainly in recent years has faced low rainfall and the increasing trend of drought. we didn't manage well the exploitation of esh karim with many joys in this and again we are faced with farshid the phenomenon of drought and the armenian change of desert areas in neighboring countries has also spread and from about 270 million hectares of dust-prone centers about 150 million toman dust particles towards the sectors they are held in different countries. the largest country in terms of size, i want to say, was i

group of countries that come from the middle east of from latin america, southeast asia, questions of who would be the representative of the country from africa, africa's they big, big continent. at the moment, everything seems to be made up and everything seems to be very much closed in terms of ranks enough money to speculate who the countries may be. they've been countries that have been listed as part of the the 3 countries are $23.00 countries, including you, a bella dish of julia argentina, cuba, her daughter's beloved, be up at a ruse, nigeria, and even countries like indonesia, etc. so i don't show at this point in time, we have any inkling or any kind of inkling as to which countries may be announced if it is announced that this, the announcement of an expanded bricks have the feeling that it may actually be a group of countries that would be considered as observance towards an expand time . that's very clear. thank you so much for that to us, the bush at night to from the institute for global dialogue. thank you. thank you. to do the lighted states and donald trump has confirmed the tales. skip the 1st republican presidential primary debate,

africa let them teach them, because they lived at the expense of the former ussr, pumping everything out and at the expense of africa, the middle east, from the middle east they are throwing out africatill a war ahead, now, returning to the speech of the president and poland, what does the president mean, and what is the tragedy of the current situation for the poles in the first place turn, the tragedy is that both the british and the americans will never fight for europe, when i listen to a speech by a representative of the us state department who says we will defend every centimeter of polish land, when a fake was born that supposedly belarusian helicopters were somewhere out there flew in , it’s clear why he was born, but in order to justify, uh, the transfer of troops to our border from poland, that’s all. is it true that the poles themselves know this, but this is a tragedy, no matter what happens, poland will be thrown into this war. it has no sovereignty, the polish people. doesn't want to fight 99% polyakov wants to have good relations buy groceries travel live trade this is a normal desire of people to leave them, but no one will ever fight for them with shells again. agai

middle east region is the heartland of the world? we know that the coastal region in west africa is also the heartland of that part of africa . the coastal region is a large region between the atlantic ocean and the red sea . if you map see, you see, and it shows seven countries in the north, it is affected by libya and algeria, in the south, nigeria and benin, in the west, and burkina faso, and in the city on the border with the country, there are 24 million people and one million two hundred and sixty seven. a thousand kilometers of gold, uranium ore, a little oil and the majority of muslims are affected by the age of the maliki sunni brothers, the poorest countries in the world, the gold stage , gold mines and uranium ore, and the forgiveness of minh ho and 24 million people, but it is still ranked 188 among the poorest countries in the world and africa. the second introduction that i wanted to tell you is your website although social networks are used with the smart engineering of western countries against hostile and rival countries, but with the same wisdom, western countries have real demonstrations and baronies that h

middle east. happen in africa too, we are so surprised. well, not us, more precisely, the world, before all americans, europeans, saw that africa is cut in halfy this region of juice, that there are regimes there that, well, that is, juntas, in fact, which russia directly supports, and politically, economically, militarily, and there are where does the same vanner play its role? well, of course, if we are talking about the small, last case, ah, then we can see a big conflict involving a large number of west african countries, france, we, i think that the europeans can get involved, of course that russia will take part there and try to use it against the europeans with mr. vitaly in our next hour, mr. oleksandr, regarding the help from germany , i wanted you to comment on what the publication spiegel writes that the german government is allegedly ready to provide ukraine with taurus long-range missiles, however provided that this missile is reprogrammed so that it does not fire in the russian way , the federation did not have such an opportunity, but this will not apply to the allegedly temporarily occupied crimea by the russians, what do you

middle east and africa? >> well, i think a lot of them are really valuable, especially in africa. predict the kremlin would want to get their hands on it in some fashion. and the way they can do that is let's say the fighters, the wagner fighters themselves, there actually are a number of other private military contractors out there like wagner, smaller, perhaps, that are connected to people that are friendly to president putin. one of them, in fact, is under the control in some fashion of the head of the ministry of defense. so you could move some of them over. then already they've taken the heavy weapons from them, and some will go into the military themselves. but it's not -- you know, the group is actually not that large. so you're dealing with a few thousand people. it was 20,000, 25. now maybe fewer. so i think they can kind of move them over. but the actual businesses, alex, the ones that are really lucrative and really important, you can bet that the kremlin is going to have them continue in some fashion, but under kremlin control. >> jill, do you think that there's a risk

africa . in the middle india, in africa. in the middle east. the rise of brics is the rise of proof that the rest of the world increasingly finds it has better things to do with its wealth and therefore its influence . voices. our leaders influence. voices. our leaders don't want to hear predict the emergence of a multi—polar world where the world of the where the world of the west matters less. addressing the conference in joburg, brazilian president luis inacio lula da silva said the dynamism of the world's economy was in the global south and that brics was its driving force. he said africaed to be the world's most populous continent by 2100, was building a free trade zone of 54 countries. empires rise and fall. champions come and go, overtaken by time and hubris. i've said it before, and hubris. i've said it before, and i'll say it again that it's not what people say that matters, but what they do talk can be cheap and the right right stink of corruption is everywhere . but right now, some everywhere. but right now, some of the lines are coming not of the best lines are coming not from the west, but from elsewhere. lula of brazil told representatives his fellow representatives of his fellow brics nations that in just a few years we have left behind a scenario of benign multipolarity towards one that resumes the obsolete mentality of the cold war and geopolitical competition. he said an increasing number of countries, among them the brics countries, are engaged in making direct contact with moscow and kyiv in pursuit of peace for ukraine. he said brics nations can't rema

africa . in the middle india, in africa. in the middle east. the rise of brics is the rise of proof that the rest of the world increasingly finds it has better things to do with its wealth and therefore its influence . voices. our leaders influence. voices. our leaders don't want to hear predict the emergence of a multi—polar world where the world of the where the world of the west matters less. addressing the conference in joburg, brazilian president luis inacio lula da silva said the dynamism of the world's economy was in the global south and that brics was its driving force. he said africaed to be the world's most populous continent by 2100, was building a free trade zone of 54 countries. empires rise and fall. champions come and go, overtaken by time and hubris. i've said it before, and hubris. i've said it before, and i'll say it again that it's not what people say that matters, but what they do talk can be cheap and the right right stink of corruption is everywhere . but right now, some everywhere. but right now, some of the lines are coming not of the best lines are coming not from the west, but from elsewhere. lula of brazil told representatives his fellow representatives of his fellow brics nations that in just a few years we have left behind a scenario of benign multipolarity towards one that resumes the obsolete mentality of the cold war and geopolitical competition. he said an increasing number of countries, among them the brics countries, are engaged in making direct contact with moscow and kyiv in pursuit of peace for ukraine. he said brics nations can't rema

africa of the africa and other parts of the middle that has middle east that has consequences internationally, globally . and i really think globally. and i really think this another area where there this is another area where there has serious commitment to has to be serious commitment to try and improving and resolving the situation all around and not just having an endless war. >> do you think he ordered the plane to be brought down? >> it sounds what >> well, i mean, it sounds what it's reported that a bomb went off plane and sounds off in the plane and it sounds like sorts things that like the sorts of things that have happened before when people have happened before when people have targeted. so have been targeted. so it absolutely that. but absolutely sounds like that. but i say this as well. i would just say this as well. you the fog of war, so you know, in the fog of war, so many happen right. that many things happen right. that one quite entirely knows . one never quite entirely knows. but like it's but it looks like it's retribution realise as well. >> but actually also on the plane allegedly were boghosian second in command his logistics chief and six of his lieutenants. so why would they all on the same plane. yeah that's a kind of foolish thing to do, isn't it? and the other line i thought there was also which speaks very much to what you said, is ageing you just said, is ageing dictators two things, die or dictators do two things, die or lash because they realise lash out because they realise their power is fading, which is kind of where we are. >> dangerous situation, isn't it? >> we're almost out of time, susan. let's have a look at the mail. should we? i want to talk about zoom. >> yeah, you to talk about >> yeah, you want to talk about zoom, okey yeah. so zoom, right? okey doke. yeah. so it's that this might it's been said that this might be the kind of do you remember the gerald ratner thing where gerald ratner word about gerald ratner used a word about his products in his jewellery shop that particularly shop that was not particularly flattering, and caused flattering, and it caused a major problem. well, the boss of zoom, zoom, eric von , has been zoom, zoom, eric von, has been described as scoring a bit of an own goal by by saying that zoom is not the best way to conduct your business. but he is the boss of zoom. but but i think full marks for honesty for him. really if that's what he thinks he's saying. basically that people meetings, all people are meetings, as we all know, if ever we've had any sort of zoom meeting or discussion , of zoom meeting or discussion, it's tricky. don't know when it's tricky. you don't know when to speak. you can't always hear people speak at people because if you speak at the time, you cut people the same time, you cut people off, says. people are more off, he says. people are more polite is that a bad polite on zoom. is that a bad thing? bad thing. thing? it's not a bad thing. maybe a bad thing, maybe maybe not a bad thing, but maybe if get your point if you don't get your point across or you don't feel you can say what you want to say, that it's ineffective. yeah. it's a bit ineffective. yeah. i mean, it's it is efficient, but it's not very friendly, is it? what earth would we have done what on earth would we have done without oh, absolutely. or without it? oh, absolutely. or facetime, more facetime, i mean more importantly than meeting importantly than zoom meeting is actually are always polite. >> you have no authority here. oh, yes. >> oh, exactly. yes, i do. yes >> handforth. that's near where? neston, where neston, cheshire. near where i live. yes. all sort of live. yes yes. all sort of things do go. but also that zoom meeting, you have no authority. the lighting . everyone just the lighting. everyone just looks spooky and of looks so spooky and kind of ghost like. just quite ghost like. it was just quite frightening, wasn't it? but but yes, i but i think yes, so i think but i think anything that drives people back into i speaking into to work, i mean, speaking to we were talking about to what we were talking about before the reasons before is one of the reasons we're covering all the we're not covering all the backlog of all things, backlog of all the things, because lot people are because a lot of people are working home in government working from home in government departments. might be if they departments. it might be if they get back in the office, don't try zoom, don't try and do things on zoom, don't try and do things on zoom, don't try and do things on zoom, don't try and do things remotely on their phones. maybe get their phones. maybe we'll get a lot and actually lot more achieved and actually bfing lot more achieved and actually bring to the cities. bring life back to the cities. >> so. got to leave >> maybe so. we've got to leave it there. susan allen, thank you both very indeed. manager both very much indeed. manager rather than teams. rather use zoom than teams. i have to do lot on teams. have to do a lot on teams. >> yes, i do. what's the difference really? >> i just i it really odd >> i just i find it really odd logging in and doing things on teams. as it's just teams. it's not as it's just a right pain every time. can't just log in these zoom easy. brilliant though aren't they? >> susan what would you >> as susan said. what would you what would we have done without it? i remember being tech phobic what would we have done without it?theemember being tech phobic what would we have done without it?the beginning,eing tech phobic what would we have done without it?the beginning, thinking,phobic what would we have done without it?the beginning, thinking, i'llbic at the beginning, thinking, i'll never how do this. never learn how to do this. >> never send your >> you'd never send your family or it? absolutely. or use it? absolutely. >> know how to do it now, >> we all know how to do it now, don't >> we all know how to do it now, dorwe do now, from all things >> we do now, from all things technological to getting back to the as it were, because the wild, as it were, because rewilding as the rewilding is back as the wildlife trusts launched their plan to transform nature recovery in the uk , they've had recovery in the uk, they've had a £6 million grant. >> yes, these environmental charities will be using that money to support the creation of landscape scale. rewild building projects, including a coast to coast transformation of hadrian's wall. sounds good. >> let's get the details from the director of landscape recovery at wildlife trust, dr. rob stoneman. good to see you this morning. so what exactly is happening here? >> yeah, look, big . thank you. >> yeah, look, big. thank you. to the ecological restoration fund. to the ecological restoration fund . and they've given us £6 fund. and they've given us £6 million. there's a lot of money for nature conservation, and we're looking at four things. really. so we're looking at how we can coordinate work to bring back wildlife at a landscape scale . you've talked about scale. you've talked about hadrian's wall corridor earlier , we're , the severn valley we're looking well . we want to looking at as well. we want to buy in the middle of these buy land in the middle of these landscape areas just to as an exemplar and to inspire people about how we might do this , about how we might do this, remove barriers to the recolonisation of some of our so—called keystone species. these are the that allow these are the species that allow an explosion of wildlife. beaver would be a good example and we've got some money to help restore the ecology of welsh waters and also our fantastic coastline. >> i mean, as you said , it's an >> i mean, as you said, it's an awful lot of money, but it's an awful lot of money, but it's an awful lot of work you've got to do over enormous areas . how long do over enormous areas. how long will it be before we'll actually see some sort of a change? >> yeah, i mean, these are these are decadal landscapes, you know, because we're going to work alongside our farming community, our foresters, the people that live and work in that area. so this isn't about forcing a change onto a landscape. this is about working alongside people and helping people improve their farm businesses and so on. in a way that delivers, you know, in a way that restores our nature to and makes those farming communities more prosperous. so we're really excited by that prospect. so we might see, for example, a switch from sheep to cattle. we might see more nature tourism businesses , we might see tourism businesses, we might see more forestry in the landscape and so on. and in that way we can rebuild the wildlife and rebuild rural communities at the same time. so it's quite exciting. >> i wonder what we talk about rewilding. >> i don't know if we do. we know what it really means. i mean, i know, you know, but i mean, i know, you know, but i mean, punters like us do we really know what you're actually talking about? >> yeah. i mean , some people >> yeah. i mean, some people sort of say, oh, we're going to bfing sort of say, oh, we're going to bring back wolves and bears. that's not really what rewilding is about. in in europe. no, is about. in in, in europe. no, really, there's kind of three things with things to think about with rewilding. is how we rewilding. so one is how do we connect back together? connect nature back together? because we've really fragmented it. thing that's it. so that's first thing that's really important. the second thing is how do we recreate the web life? and concept of web of life? and this concept of keystone think about an keystone species? think about an arch. you take keystone arch. if you take the keystone away, wall falls apart or away, the wall falls apart or the arch falls apart. so there's certain species that are really important . so certain species that are really important. so big grazing animals, some of our top predators and things like beavers in our river valleys, these are really important species to bring back. and then the third thing that we need to think about is, is how can we do this? how can we do this at scale and scale allows you to create these random processes, these natural processes , things these natural processes, things like rivers, meandering , young like rivers, meandering, young trees dying and but staying upright. so you've got lots of dead wood in a woodland landscape , glades opening and landscape, glades opening and cattle wallowing in the mud and so on. so all these natural processes create diversity and create an explosion of wildlife . so it brings wildlife back into our systems that we've lost i >> -- >> how important is it that you do it? i know there'll be a lot of people watching at the moment who say, well, it sounds a bit namby pamby and green. we could spend that much money on something how important is something else. how important is it that you get on with this now that's really fundamental. it that you get on with this now tha you eally fundamental. it that you get on with this now tha you eally flwe're ental. it that you get on with this now tha you eally flwe're intal. it that you get on with this now tha youeally flwe're in a l. it that you get on with this now tha youeally flwe're in a nature >> you know, we're in a nature and crisis. the two and climate crisis. the two cfises and climate crisis. the two crises are completely, inextricably crises are completely, inextr solve ' crises are completely, inextrsolve one without can't solve one without the other. nature is so other. and nature is so important for us. it's important for our health. you know, it just makes feel better and just makes us feel better and happier. and that's we that happier. and that's we know that that's enormously important. it's example, it's important, for example, our pollinating insects that that pollinate a third of all british crops. so it's fundamental to our food supply. it's fundamental to clean to water, clean air. so this is not just about restoring wildlife. it's not a thing to do. you not a green thing to do. you know, it's just a nice thing know, it's not just a nice thing to do . this fundamental to us to do. this is fundamental to us carrying as a civilisation. carrying on as a civilisation. we are of a bit of we really are a bit of a bit of a blink at moment, so we've a blink at the moment, so we've really got to start to get this. >> dr. stoneman, good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed right. we much indeed. right. should we get the weather . get a check on the weather. >> the temperature is rising . >> the temperature is rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news alex deakin weather on. gb news alex deakin with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> good morning. a case of dodgy the downpours today and tomorrow . the long weekends will stay on the cool side but it should get a little dry as the weekend goes on. many of us starting a little chilly out there this morning. but with some decent spells of sunshine, clouds going to bubble up pretty rapidly through the morning we'll a morning and then we'll see a scattering of showers developing, of developing, i suspect parts of eastern will stay dry eastern england will stay dry and well and the showers fairly well scattered some scattered elsewhere. so some sunshine coming through. the main that will be main exception to that will be northern where it northern scotland, where it stays fairly windy as stays wet and fairly windy as well. always cool side of well. always on the cool side of fresher compared to fresher feel compared to yesterday across anglia and yesterday across east anglia and the south east, temperatures, high teens at best for many still a few heavy showers around this evening, creating a bit of spray and surface water on the roads, staying fairly wet overnight across western scotland and fairly windy here as well. and that'll lead into another showery day tomorrow. again, temperatures dipping down into single figures in rural spots . most towns and cities spots. most towns and cities staying in double figures tonight. onto the weekend, then a bank holiday for many of us. of course, there will be some sunshine around on saturday, but there a lot of there will also be a lot of showers tomorrow. heavy showers tomorrow. some heavy ones northern ones likely over northern england. of wales, england. parts of wales, but developing widely again developing more widely again through day. so you'll through the day. so you'll be lucky to stay completely dry tomorrow. the showers where they lucky to stay completely dry toroccurr. the showers where they lucky to stay completely dry tor occur could showers where they lucky to stay completely dry tor occur could sho pretty/here they lucky to stay completely dry tor occur could sho pretty heavy hey do occur could be pretty heavy and even thundery. and again on the cool side for the time of yean the cool side for the time of year, temperatures high teens at the cool side for the time of year, butperatures high teens at the cool side for the time of year, but it ratures high teens at the cool side for the time of year, but it should high teens at the cool side for the time of year, but it should get] teens at the cool side for the time of year, but it should get a eens at the cool side for the time of year, but it should get a bilis at best, but it should get a bit dfier best, but it should get a bit drier as we go through the weekend. drier as we go through the weeken�*temperatures rising, boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. so you put your on. gb news. so you put your heating on. >> i was going to say, the weather's obviously quite warm, but get cold in the mornings. >> brian says his house is 23.5 degrees this morning . not as degrees this morning. not as warm where you are, brian , but warm where you are, brian, but thatis warm where you are, brian, but that is warm. there you go . that is warm. there you go. means you open, you open your windows at you're not windows. at least you're not having the energy good morning. it's 7:00 on friday, the 25th of august. today donald trump's mug shot is dominating the news, the first ever taken of a former president after being charged with trying to overturn the election results in 2020. >> our energy prices should drop this winter because ofgem have announced the new energy price cap . cap. >> we'll have all the latest showbiz news, including more legal trouble for lizzo and, of course, the very latest weather from alex. >> a cool start out there today with some sunshine . we are going with some sunshine. we are going to see a few showers develop and then we're into the weekend , a then we're into the weekend, a bank holiday for many of us. i'll have a full forecast coming up later the morning . up later the morning. >> to you. i'm stephen dixon. >> to you. i'm stephen dixon. >> and i'm anne diamond. and this is breakfast on gb news. >> we're in trouble already and it's you're in trouble already ? it's you're in trouble already? >> well, it's because stephen was saying why do people get married? and you think that a lot of people get married for the wrong reasons? >> yes. and keith says malden. keith amongst the various reasons for getting reasons given for getting married, you did not mention the most important one, namely that you love your other half. well, no, because i was sort of saying people get married for the wrong reasons, whereas if you're lovely , if you're just do it out lovely, if you're just do it out of love, if it's a pure love match, then that's the right reason. and i think you're less likely to have the divorce. >> but people don't get married without love, do they? they think they might think they're in love, but you wouldn't get there yeah, but that's there in love. yeah, but that's what thinks, isn't it? what anyone thinks, isn't it? yeah know. it's a tricky yeah i don't know. it's a tricky one. yeah, it is . paul says i one. yeah, it is. paul says i split up with ex 11 years ago split up with my ex 11 years ago when i was 40. after 20 years, i'm still single. to be honest. i'm still single. to be honest. i hate being single. and that's what i was wondering, is people who managed to stay married for a while, for long enough to maybe have the kids grow up, couldn't . why do they then want couldn't. why do they then want to get divorced? you would have thought if you stick together long enough, you've found a formula. maybe you just don't feel you're happy enough. that's what it is. it's. it's what it is. but it's. it's a lonely business, i think. looking for love again at a certain age. maybe it's a lonely business. looking love. full stop. >> what was that? drama. it's on the bbc. i never watched it, but my parents. >> my wife next door. >> my wife next door. >> it was halifax . is it new >> no, it was halifax. is it new love in halifax or something? and it was about an older couple getting together and the kids not happy and that not being happy and all that sort thing. and more sort of thing. more and more people be derek jacobi was people could be derek jacobi was in it and. >> oh, sounds good. yeah all right, up, stephen right, i'll look up, stephen says, segment divorce. >> if you're unhappy after the kids that's all crazy kids are grown, that's all crazy . see the attitude is . see the this attitude is another reason for people men in particular, to not take the risk of marrying and having kids. you need to be sure i don't see how you can be when you get married i >> -- >> yeah, i exam >> yeah, i think you're in love, aren't you? and. and that's why love is blind. you're blinded by love. you don't take rational decisions. do you necessarily think maybe you should. maybe you should sit down and think, have we got enough money? have we the same sort of goals in we got the same sort of goals in life? but you don't just love because our the whole sort of if in doubt , because our the whole sort of if in doubt, don't we'd never do anything then would you. >> well, no. but when it comes, when it when it comes to marriage and it's a wonderful thing to be blinded by love. >> it's a wonderful thing to be so in love that you don't question and you don't have doubts. i don't know. let us know. meaning of love, please. in few words, yes. try that. gb views gbviews@gbnews.com. >> yeah. i'm an old romantic. yes, you are. yeah, but that's good to be, isn't it? >> it's wonderful feeling , isn't it? >> it is lovely. but you see, i was single for 20 years because i couldn't say, you i thought i couldn't say, you know, lot people settle, know, a lot of people settle, they don't want to be they go, i don't want to be single, so i'm going to go dating. i'm going to the one who seems best. i'll go with seems the best. i'll go out with and how goes. i was never and see how it goes. i was never able to that, couldn't do it. able to do that, couldn't do it. i'd rather be single than i'd just rather be single than do that. and i got hitched. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, got bowled >> no, you got bowled over by life. >> i did get bowled over. wonderful. it's wonderful. don't knock we're not knock it. we're not. we're not knocking . knocking it. >> talk about . shall we >> shall we talk about. shall we talk about former us president donald trump? because, well , donald trump? because, well, he's made mug shots. great. again he's voluntarily surrendered yesterday at the fulton county jail in atlanta . fulton county jail in atlanta. >> yes. he faces 13 felony counts in the state of georgia regarding efforts to allegedly overturn the state's 2020 presidential presidential election result. >> never one to back down. he came out fighting, telling broadcasters that he has every right to challenge an election he feels is unfair. thank you very much for being here. >> i really believe this is a very sad day for america. >> this should never happen. if you challenge an election , you you challenge an election, you should be able to challenge an election. i thought the election was rigged election, a stolen was a rigged election, a stolen election, and i should have every right to do that. as you know, you have many people that you've over the you've been watching over the years thing. what years do the same thing. what has here is a has taken place here is a travesty of justice. we did nothing nothing nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong. everybody knows it. wrong. and everybody knows it. i've had support . and i've never had such support. and that with the other ones to that goes with the other ones to what doing is election what they're doing is election interference . they're to interference. they're trying to interference. they're trying to interfere with an election. there's never been anything like it our country before . depher it in our country before. depher this is their way of campaigning , and this is one instance, but you have three other instances. it's election interference. we did nothing wrong at all. and we have every right, every single right to challenge an election that we think is dishonest, right to challenge an election that we think is dishonest , that that we think is dishonest, that we think it's very dishonest. >> well, earlier on, we spoke to the political analyst , >> well, earlier on, we spoke to the political analyst, ronald granieri. here's what he had to say about that. it certainly is. >> it's the only one we've ever had of a president of the united states, a former president . it's states, a former president. it's it it's a it is definitely a historic day. i guess if you wanted to put it in the most sort value neutral terms, you want to put it, it's a big deal. and it's a big deal, especially that the president is being charged the president charged or the former president is being in a state is being charged in a state court, in a not in a federal court. >> what are we to make of the rhetoric that he comes out with? rhetoric that he comes outwith? because he's following his old pattern, isn't he, of coming out and well, you know , i've and saying, well, you know, i've done nothing wrong done absolutely nothing wrong and everybody knows it. it's as though if he if he if he chants out the line that everyone is everyone believes him, it becomes true . becomes true. >> and that is certainly that is his pattern. right. it's either everyone knows it or in other circumstances, he'll come out with, you know, people are saying which then he then presents as truth because that way he doesn't have to say that i'm merely claiming this, but rather that it is somehow objective. we can't be objective. now, we can't be surprised that he says he's innocent. right people always say innocent when they say they're innocent when they when they've been booked. and we don't you know, people are innocent until they're proven guilty in this country as well. but it's important to note that you say whatever you want you can say whatever you want about an election, which can't do, shouldn't do , is do, which you shouldn't do, is defame people without evidence, which is one of the things he's accused of doing, which are not supposed to do, you're not supposed to do, is you're not supposed to do, is you're not supposed encourage government supposed to encourage government officials the absence of officials and the absence of evidence look for or find evidence to look for or find 11,680 votes as those are the things that are that it's precisely this idea that there is a line between saying , i is a line between saying, i really think i won this election and me claiming that person in particular stole it when there's no evidence that you can present that that person did anything of the sort but this rhetoric. >> and he said it quite a few times, didn't he? i have the right, of course, i have to challenge the outcome of an election and that would that point towards that basically going to be his defence is it looks that way. >> it looks like that's one of the big defences is essentially , to use an american terminology , to use an american terminology , is a first amendment defence as freedom of speech, freedom to petition the government to petition the government to redress grievances if that, that i'm to free do that, that anyone is to free do that. and so the big question is going to be, as a legal matter and as a as a matter of when they work out the facts in court, is whether the whether mr trump and his co defendants hear the alleged co—conspirators, whether they crossed the line from merely expressing an opinion to actually trying to spread falsehoods , falsehoods that they falsehoods, falsehoods that they were aware were false or that they were encouraging government officials to do things that they knew were were false and contrary to fact . we didn't have contrary to fact. we didn't have breaking news there, by the way. >> i'm not sure what that was about, though. >> and it's just such a troubling situation. i'll tell you what. what i hate about it and whatever you think of trump or biden or whatever is going on, it's the fact that it is a soap opera . yes, it is just soap opera. yes, it is just a soap opera. yes, it is just a soap opera. yes, it is just a soap opera . and someone's going soap opera. and someone's going to be most important and politically influential person on the planet . on the planet. >> and it's nobody is going to be very nobody is going to be convinced by the outcome of the next election , i think are they next election, i think are they if trump wins, the other side will say, well, you know, he won unfairly. and if he doesn't win, he won't stop . he won't stop. he won't stop. he won't stop. his opposition will he? and an awful lot of trump fans and there are so many will always feel disgruntled , always feel feel disgruntled, always feel disgruntled . disgruntled. >> yeah, mike says criticism is fine, but you fail to mention that under the under trump, the economy boomed. he prevented a nuclear war with north korea and was the only president ever to not start a new war and even settled peace between other countries around the world. as you we did mention that we did. we also said we had the threat of these exchange of missiles with with north korea going on for quite some time. and that was frightening at the time. wasn't frightening at the time. and will, you went out there and spoke to them. you didn't get anywhere. >> but no, it didn't. but it was sometimes it's just good to be seen to be speaking to your enemy, as it were. yes. >> yeah. well, was. no one >> yeah. well, it was. no one else could have done that anyway. see, that's where that's where does have benefits. and where he does have benefits. and no one else could have gone and crossed north korea like crossed into north korea like that the hotspur that and sort of had the hotspur to get away with the sort of self—belief. yeah and will says trump is a threat to civilisation and exemplifies greed, self serving aims and probably the worst case of nepotism. the usa could inflict on the world. that's a very valid point. a lot of people would agree with you. yes >> and that's it, isn't it? that's what i mean. it's dividing america. yeah. well and honestly. and unless he unless he wins or stands down, there's an awful there's a huge segment of america who's going to feel very, very disgruntled . very, very disgruntled. >> but isn't that always the way with the states? because whenever there's a presidential election, it's always pretty much 5050. yes, it's every time. >> yes. yes »- >> yes. yes >> so but what i find interesting is the idea that and i heard someone, an analyst say it a while ago say that that trump is the only candidate the republicans can put forward who biden could beat. >> trump is the only candidate , >> trump is the only candidate, the only candidate that biden could beat, biden could beat. >> and i think that's because although people don't like biden, it will it will polarise the situation, whereas any other republican candidate would probably win because people are a bit disillusioned with with biden. >> yeah. and it's not a great choice , though, is it? i think choice, though, is it? i think for america, no , i don't think for america, no, i don't think it's a good choice , you know. it's a good choice, you know. >> youngblood , i mean, i'm >> youngblood, i mean, i'm surprised biden has put himself forward again. >> i am. he doesn't look terribly well. no, he doesn't. and you can't have confidence in him. he just his age is unfortunately showing badly . unfortunately showing badly. >> it is. >> it is. >> well, i mean, i know it's a goodi >> well, i mean, i know it's a good i mean, a lot of people say he's a very, very impressive man . he's got a terrific pedigree and all the rest of it. but sometimes you just are too sometimes maybe you just are too old should recognise it old and you should recognise it . know. . don't know. >> yeah, think you're too >> yeah, i just think you're too old. but. but i would apply you know, i would apply that to, to trump as well to be fair. >> yes. yeah. >> yes. yeah. >> because he's that >> because he's not that dissimilar in age. >> looks healthier though >> he looks healthier though somehow he ? somehow trump doesn't he? >> he was the healthiest, bigger. bigger. bigger. but he's bigger. >> presence , he's >> he's got presence, he's stronger speaking. >> but then when he was i'm sorry, i'm not campaigning for him, i'm just pointing it out. when he was president, he then comes out with a nonsense saying, i'm i'm the healthiest president there's been. president there's ever been. yeah, that sort of yeah, well, that sort of everything says that bigger? >> better than ever has been. but it's extraordinary what's happening in the usa. but look at the other side of the world and to russia and what has been going on. because the russian president, vladimir putin, went on tv, sent his condolences to the family of yevgeny prigozhin , the former leader of the mercenary wagner group, who was , of course, amongst the ten people killed somehow in a plane crash. north of moscow. >> yeah , yes, it's all very odd >> yeah, yes, it's all very odd because , i mean, the suspicion because, i mean, the suspicion is that putin had it bombed. yeah, the aircraft, as you can see from these disturbing images hurtling downwards and trailing smoke and on board explosion, they think was the likely cause for the crash. >> and of course, you have to remember what happened because his death occurs two months to the day since he led an abortive mutiny against the military top brass , something putin actually brass, something putin actually described himself as treacherous. yes. >> so what happens next in all of this? let's talk to military and defence analyst, colonel simon diggins, who joins us now. really good to you this really good to see you this morning. i mean, the big morning. i mean, look, the big question is , does the death question here is, does the death of prigozhin , if it has actually of prigozhin, if it has actually happened , does that strengthen happened, does that strengthen or weaken putin? >> i think in the short term it strengthens him. it removes an alternative centre of power, an alternative centre of power, an alternative centre of opposition to what he's trying to do in terms of the conduct of the war. prigozhin as well as irritating putin. it also managed to irritate many in the senior russian generals and defence minister and gerasimov , who was minister and gerasimov, who was the chief of defence staff . so the chief of defence staff. so he managed to irritate them as well . at the same time, as you well. at the same time, as you probably remember where putin also removed a man called surovikin who was the chief of aerospace forces and known as general armageddon , who has also general armageddon, who has also been seen as linked himself with prigozhin and the wagner group. and so what putin's done in the short term has removed these sort of centres of opposition to him. so in the short term i think he is stronger. but the long term, i'm not so sure. >> can i just ask, being terribly cynical, why prigozhin would a plane would have been on board a plane with so many of his top people? and do you think there's any chance at all that this is a staged event? it didn't actually happen. i mean, yes, the a plane fell out of the sky, but we don't we don't for sure know that these people were killed, do we know not absolutely sure. >> i don't think anyone absolutely sure about it. i mean , there is a sort of full dna analysis of the and, you know, ten people died in that accident and full dna analysis of the bodies . and we can't be bodies. and we can't be absolutely sure. but certainly the news that's coming from and the news that's coming from and the fact that putin has, if you like, has publicly announced the death prigozhin , sent his death of prigozhin, sent his condolences to the family, suggests the outward suggests at least the outward sign that, yes, he's sign of it is that, yes, he's he's definitely dead. he's certainly terms of his certainly dead in terms of his ability to influence events and maybe what he was promised if he got taken was you can escape the country and all will be forgiven. your sins. so he was kind of lured onto the aircraft and, know, given an he and, you know, given an offer he couldn't, refuse. and couldn't, couldn't refuse. and this right? this is the result, right? >> are you pretty >> i mean, are you pretty confident that. well a year's dead and that b, putin did it? >> i think nothing happens in russia. nothing that certainly of this scale that does not have putin behind it. that of this scale that does not have putin behind it . that is of this scale that does not have putin behind it. that is the thatis putin behind it. that is the that is the kind of reality of it. now, what you do have, of course, is what you might call plausible deniability. and that's straight out of the kind of the kgb game book. and putin is, never forget, was was is, let's never forget, was was a kgb agent. he was trained in them. and until the fall of the soviet union was a very active member of the the kgb and member of the of the kgb and they they have the ability and they they have the ability and they have done in the past these sorts of operations . and there's sorts of operations. and there's always this element of plausible deniability. so there's always a potential alternative story to what's the one that comes out. it may not be very credible , but it may not be very credible, but there's a story that people can hang their hats on that plane came down about 150 miles north of moscow , we're told. of moscow, we're told. >> and where it landed there already heaps of floral tributes . and russian people, including wagner fighters , weeping there wagner fighters, weeping there openly in front of everybody . openly in front of everybody. you wouldn't you wouldn't. i mean, do you find that surprise thing? not particularly. >> i think it's very interesting. when the mutiny took place and when his forces , took place and when his forces, the wagner group forces, were in rostov on don, there was clearly a huge amount of popular support for him . i think the russian for him. i think the russian attitude towards this war is fascinating. and on the one hand, generally speaking, he it's the propaganda it's they believe the propaganda that putin's regime has come out, that they're to out, that they're trying to remove of , drug dealers remove a group of, drug dealers or whatever, from from ukraine. and then, of course , there all and then, of course, there all the russians are genuinely patriotic people . and so if they patriotic people. and so if they see somebody who appears to be fighting rather better for what they important they regard as the important thing doing, which is thing they're doing, which is conducting this campaign against the in kyiv, then they the regime in kyiv, then they tend to support him there. also, if you like , caught up in the in if you like, caught up in the in the passion of the war itself. and i think that's always one of the things we're always going to be of with wars. wars be careful of with wars. wars often for what appear to often start for what appear to be time rational be certainly time rational reasons . but during the course reasons. but during the course of wars, passion builds in, casualties come in emotions build up, and i think people then take very much harder lines and much harder sides that. and much harder sides on that. so particularly so i'm not particularly surprised that received this surprised that he received this level support . but of course, level of support. but of course, that's putin was so that's also why putin was so worried because putin worried about him, because putin would what would also have seen what happened rostov—on—don and happened in rostov—on—don and gone, not good. this is gone, this is not good. this is not just somebody who who is fighting very well for me. he has a, if you like, a constituency of his own. and that's not something that putin was put up with. was prepared to put up with. >> does that then in >> but does that mean then in terms see putin's comments terms of we see putin's comments about this and offering his condolence and we just condolence ounces and we just see through it? i mean, it's almost laughable. it is like something from a bond film. and but if we look at it through russian eyes and the russian people sort of believing him and thinking that , yeah, he is sorry thinking that, yeah, he is sorry that this man is dead , i think that this man is dead, i think there's always a mixed element in there. >> i mean, you know, one of the few saving graces of like the soviet union was the amount of rather cynical humour that came out. and there was announced outstanding satirical magazine called you called krokodil, where, if you like, licence of like, some of the licence of talks from from the soviet union came through. so there's an element cynicism within element of cynicism within russia about about their leadership, which which is there. but there's also, i think this sense of there's a war this this sense of there's a war going on and we need to back people fighting, people who are fighting, fighting war. think fighting the war. and i think they saw in the in those in they saw him in the in those in those in those terms. you know, he was popular. >> does this death make any difference to the war in ukraine? >> it does. i think it probably short term. i think the interesting i think the implications are much wider than just the war in ukraine. but in the short term, i think it gives a more coherence to the a degree more coherence to the russian leadership as i said, whilst the wagner troops have been used very much as kind of shock troops in places like bakhmut last year and early on, earlier on this year , the earlier on this year, the russian leadership was divided. and it's still not particular, fully coherent, but it certainly was significantly more divided with wagner and his and his men. so i think it gives them an opportunity to be a bit more coherent and a bit more cogent in what they're trying to do over the longer term. think over the longer term. i think it is more problematic. think it is more problematic. i think it shows a deep degree of weakness strategically within russia itself . i mean, if the only way itself. i mean, if the only way that you as the leader of a state can deal with opposition is to murder, just not not to the opponent, but nine other people, that is a weak state. it it may be very sort of strong it may be a very sort of strong on the surface state side , but on the surface state side, but actually brittle . what's actually it's brittle. what's going to knock it? i do not know. and that's you know, that could a long, long time could be a long, long time coming. but that's not a strong state. know, do not state. you know, you do not murder people they are murder people because they are your and that is your opponents. and that is exactly has done. exactly what putin has done. >> colonel good to >> colonel diggins, good to see you thanks very you this morning. thanks very much . pleasure. more much indeed. my pleasure. more analysis on that coming up, of course. but let's get a check on your weather with . alex your weather with. alex >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news alex deakin with on. gb news alex deakin with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> good morning. a case of dodging the downpours today and tomorrow . the weekends will tomorrow. the long weekends will stay on the cool side, but it should get a little drier as the weekend goes of us weekend goes on. many of us starting a little chilly out there this morning, but with some spells of sunshine, some decent spells of sunshine, clouds are going to bubble up pretty rapidly the pretty rapidly through the morning we'll see morning and then we'll see a scattering showers scattering of showers developing, suspect parts of developing, i suspect parts of eastern england will stay dry and well and the showers fairly well scattered elsewhere. so some sunshine through. the sunshine coming through. the main will main exception to that will be northern it northern scotland, where it stays and fairly windy as stays wet and fairly windy as well. always on the cool side of fresher compared to fresher feel compared to yesterday east anglia and yesterday across east anglia and the south east, temperatures, high at best for many high teens at best for many still a few heavy showers around this evening, creating a bit of spray and surface water on the roads, staying fairly wet overnight across western scotland and fairly windy here as well. and that'll lead into another showery day tomorrow. again, temperatures dipping down into single figures in rural spots . most towns and cities spots. most towns and cities staying in double figures tonight. the weekend, then tonight. onto the weekend, then a bank holiday for many of us. of course, there will be some sunshine around on saturday, but there will also be a lot of showers tomorrow. some heavy ones likely over northern england, of wales, england, parts of wales, but developing again developing more widely again through you'll be through the day. so you'll be lucky completely dry lucky to stay completely dry tomorrow. showers they tomorrow. the showers where they do could pretty heavy do occur could be pretty heavy and thundery. and again, on and even thundery. and again, on the the time of the cool side for the time of yean the cool side for the time of year, temperatures teens at year, temperatures high teens at best, get a bit best, but it should get a bit dfier best, but it should get a bit drier as we go through the weekend. a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> we're going to find out what's going on in the world of showbiz in a few moments. >> stephanie takyi will be joining us to tell us about this woman called lizzo. lizzo who we never heard of until about two weeks ago. >> are because we're down >> we are now because we're down with kids. with the kids. >> absolutely. yeah. >> absolutely. yeah. >> hey, you're watching breakfast on to there with your views. >> yeah , to. >> yeah, to. >> yeah, to. >> yes. we were talking earlier about whether you should stay together for the sake of the children, even if you want to divorce, because apparently the over 50 now that's the only sort of segment of society where divorce rate is rising and it's thought that people have stayed together for the sake of the children. and once the children are certain they get are a certain age, they get divorced. but andy in dorset says, you only have one life. don't waste it getting married. the thought of it sends shivers up my spine. i'm off to the pub, it's well, good on you. early in the morning to be off to the pub sort of thing. >> andy, you shouldn't be getting married. but that's. that's fair enough. >> newcastle tells >> les in newcastle tells a story that i stayed in my first marriage for the children . we marriage for the children. we separated when my kids were 18 and it was devastate and 14 and it was devastate outing for them. i have no relationship with my 36 year old son now and have only just reconciled with my daughter. after years, i was seen as after five years, i was seen as the bad guy. my second marriage is the total opposite . built on is the total opposite. built on love and friendship, i've adopted my two stepsons and have adopted my two stepsons and have a wonderful relationship with them. today is my 13th wedding anniversary , so all i can say to anniversary, so all i can say to you, les, is happy wedding anniversary you've made it work for you in the end, haven't you? yeah. well, that's great. >> hope it sorts sorts itself out. >> shows life is up and down, isn't it? >> it is, isn't it? now, we've got some breaking news for you this morning. got some breaking news for you this morning . the energy this morning. the energy regulator ofgem has just announced the next price cap for, well, october to december last quarter of the year, £1,923 for the average household in england, wales and scotland. that's dropping from just over £2,000 in july, not dropping a lot, though, is it? >> analysts say may a typical annual bill could be £150 cheaper this winter , but with cheaper this winter, but with reduced help from the government and higher fixed costs for many, will we actually see much difference in what we pay? >> well , let's difference in what we pay? >> well, let's hear from difference in what we pay? >> well , let's hear from the >> well, let's hear from the director of export unlocked, richard barlow , who joins us richard barlow, who joins us this morning. good to see you, richard. look, i guess there's various arguments we may not see a huge difference in our pocket, but if the government isn't bailing us out, we benefit bit in different ways . in different ways. >> yeah. good morning, anna and stephen. good to see you this morning. yeah, i mean, it's, you know, it's a positive that we're seeing a little drop in in the cost. obviously, it's the predicting it's lower than since 20 2021 but it's still high and it's still high to the consumer. obviously, people paying by direct debit are paying a reasonable amount . so it's still reasonable amount. so it's still very high and we're going to see, you know, depending on how winter comes. i mean, you know, we have a cold snap winter. it's a worrying sign for elderly and other people that though other people that even though it's reduced , it's still it's been reduced, it's still a high cost, matter how we look high cost, no matter how we look at now , last year, we had a at it now, last year, we had a bit of help from the government to these bills. to pay these bills. >> not going to or >> we're not going to this or what you think? will we get what do you think? will we get any from government any help from the government this winter ? this winter? >> i there'll be a bit of >> i think there'll be a bit of pressure there and i think there'll pressure on the from there'll be pressure on the from people pushing on people pushing that on government. be government. there'll be interesting happens. interesting to see what happens. there that there there is a worry that there won't much help there, won't be much help there, but i think lot of pressure think there's a lot of pressure and obviously we've got elections on the way. so we might of generosity by might see a bit of generosity by the government. but again, we're not from it. so not seeing much from it. so that's the and that's always the worry. and this this the time to this is this now the time to start at your energy start looking at your energy costs looking around . costs and start looking around. we've really suggested costs and start looking around. we've the really suggested costs and start looking around. we've the past,ly suggested costs and start looking around. we've the past, buthgested costs and start looking around. we've the past, but maybed costs and start looking around. we've the past, but maybe it's that in the past, but maybe it's a good time now to start looking what you're spending because we just debit. we pay it just pay direct debit. we pay it every credit? every month. are we in credit? are not in credit what we are we not in credit what we actually physically paying? i think by about think i'm in credit by about £480 my on my bill. and how £480 on my on my bill. and how does that affect many people? there's a lot people in that there's a lot of people in that situation who don't pay by direct debit. and this the direct debit. and this is the one thing we forget about. and stephen you know, that's stephen that, you know, that's the biggest me is, is the biggest worry to me is, is there to be support there there going to be support there for people who really, for the people who really, really need it? >> mean, i guess in that >> yeah, i mean, i guess in that sense, there's argument to be sense, there's an argument to be made, there, for not made, isn't there, for not having universal support like we have all enjoyed and actually doing it on. well, in effect means testing . means testing. >> yeah i agree. i mean i always think that the most vulnerable we we've highlighted this on gb news for the last well over a year now and we've really seen the vulnerable really affected when you know, when the to use metres you know they're having to go to the shops to get the cards, you know to get the money on you make a choice on them and you make a choice when you're that situation when you're in that situation and got really high and you've got really high bills, switching off bills, you start switching off things. an 89 things. obviously i've got an 89 year who worries year old mother who worries about heating. she's very fortunate. she's meself. but fortunate. she's got meself. but how affect people who how does that affect people who don't support don't have that support from from family ? how does that from family? how does that support the vulnerable people? that's the worry. so, that's always the worry. so, yeah , it's a difficult one and yeah, it's a difficult one and i always think they don't at always think they don't look at it's vulnerable who are it's the vulnerable who are affected anybody. affected more than anybody. >> vulnerable , but also >> the vulnerable, but also depending live as depending on where you live as well. instance, we've well. for instance, we've already had a. yvonne morning, yvonne. get in touch saying inside my house in north shropshire at the moment it's only degrees. i've had my only 15 degrees. i've had my central heating on now for the second time this summer. so maybe about it's about where you live as well and how cold things get . get. >> mean , you know, i'm >> yeah. i mean, you know, i'm up here in saddleworth on the on the side of as you know we get extreme cold weather here in the winter. so again depending where you live, what areas you're in, it different ways. and it affects different ways. and i've south of i've always said in the south of england , it always seems warmer england, it always seems warmer than is in the north where than it is in the north where i live. and it's yeah, i mean, you know, you're at home and the know, if you're at home and the other thing you've got to think on, if you're sat at home or what a lot of people now working from when you're from home. so when you're working from home, you know you have a lot. when have the heating on a lot. when you're you the you're elderly, you have the heating biggest fear heating on. and my biggest fear with is that people, with that is that people, particularly elderly or the particularly the elderly or the vulnerable, start switching off rooms using, and just particularly using, and it just ends heating there at all. ends up no heating there at all. and a huge effect and that has a huge effect because they're just heating pocket rooms, again, pocket rooms, which again, that concerns . concerns me. >> richard, it might be >> no, richard, it might be colder up north, we all know colder up north, but we all know it's a little bit better. there's no arguing, there's no arguing arguing. arguing hearts, no arguing. hearts warmer. the are hearts are warmer. the hands are warmer . and richard, really good warmer. and richard, really good to see this morning. thank to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed. >> why i've been >> maybe that's why i've been getting in the morning. >> maybe that's why i've been gettjust in the morning. >> maybe that's why i've been gettjust because re morning. >> maybe that's why i've been gettjust because i'm|orning. >> maybe that's why i've been gettjust because i'm sortng. it's just because i'm sort of wandering around on my own, not doing anything, not going anywhere. home. anywhere. you know, i'm at home. >> maybe. yeah. >> oh, well, maybe. yeah. getting about. getting out and about. >> i'll have to get out and about during the week as well. jumper oh that's what jumper on. yeah. oh that's what i'm socks. i'm saying. bed socks. >> socks. yeah. >> red socks. yeah. >> red socks. yeah. >> just wander around, shuffle around in your bed socks. the added you added advantage as well is you poush added advantage as well is you polish the as you go. polish the floor as you go. >> well there go. you see >> oh well there you go. you see woolly bed socks. unless you've got just got carpet then it's just static. i've got a wooden floor got carpet then it's just statiit i've got a wooden floor got carpet then it's just statiit just got a wooden floor got carpet then it's just statiit just polishes.)den floor and it just polishes. >> it's okay. you can tell where i've wandered. >> oh gosh. >> oh gosh. >> like a snail. that's right. >> like a snail. that's right. >> yeah. let's not go there. >> yeah. let's not go there. >> let's our >> okay, look, let's turn our attention glamorous world attention to the glamorous world of showbiz. >> always glamorous because >> it's always glamorous because stephanie here. good morning. >> good morning, stephen and anne. let's. we have a bit >> see you. let's. we have a bit of spice. >> yeah, we should. i like a bit of spice. oh, you do? let's talk about girls now. so next about spice girls now. so next year's going to be. next year's going to be their 30th anniversary. so there's been a lot of talk about what are they going to be to mark it? going to be doing to mark it? will be glastonbury? will they be doing glastonbury? they confirm whether they have yet to confirm whether they because victoria they will because victoria beckham be dragging her beckham seems to be dragging her feet on whether she wants to return but last return to the stage. but last night it's come out that actually movie . so actually planning a movie. so they're in advanced talks for a jukebox musical. so they're in advanced talks for a jukebox musical . so delayed so jukebox musical. so delayed so unfortunately, it means the ladies won't actually be in the film. but ooh ooh, there you go. oh the ladies, darling. that's me. i should be in the spice girls six member. but the ladies won't actually be in the movie. so it'll be based on a spice fan. girl or boy , and they'll fan. girl or boy, and they'll just be playing the hits through the movie, apparently. geri horner, who's ginger spice, apparently she's kind of leading the talks for the production stuff, but that's like an abba movie. stuff, but that's like an abba moyeah, it is. >> yeah, it is. >> yeah, it is. >> so more going be like >> so it's more going to be like a along, which i think is a a sing along, which i think is a shame. but i think it could be quite interesting. i think we know for all the songs know them for all the songs that they've so to see it they've created. so to see it brought life, we spice brought to life, we saw spice world, which came out about, i think it's almost 26 years ago now. so it's been that long, which stars richard e grant and what a fabulous film that was. i think they should have a think they should have done a follow oh oh, stop follow up to that. oh oh, stop it. won't you speak badly it. i won't let you speak badly of spice girls. their movies. >> well, anything they do would be incredibly. >> it would be. >> it would be. >> think they've done >> and i think if they've done a follow up to that, that would have been lovely to see them all together. obviously time's together. but obviously time's gone good thing gone on. but the one good thing about such as the spice about bands such as the spice girls, make girls, they can always make money matter what they do. money no matter what they do. you know, even they feel it's a bit like sex and the city, isn't it, they're coming back on it, when they're coming back on now they're older, i mean, now and they're older, i mean, there's they are older. now and they're older, i mean, tiknow, they are older. now and they're older, i mean, tiknow, but they are older. now and they're older, i mean, tiknow, but they're ey are older. now and they're older, i mean, tiknow, but they're getting»lder. i know, but they're getting slated. sometimes some slated. i'd sometimes like some things just leave how things you should just leave how they and don't spoil it. they are and don't spoil it. like now the new spin off sex the city making a mockery of the city is making a mockery of all the classics that we've loved. and with the different characters. samantha, loved. and with the different charac kind samantha, loved. and with the different charac kind just samantha, loved. and with the different charackind just rollingnantha, loved. and with the different charackind just rolling solora, who's kind of just rolling solo without it's just without the ladies. it's just a little things little bit weird. some things you leave behind. >> me about this, >> what disturbs me about this, the thing. is the glastonbury thing. yeah. is this victoria beckham this true that victoria beckham is because she doesn't is not keen because she doesn't want to do anything that requires singing? want to do anything that req oh,; singing? want to do anything that req oh, i singing? want to do anything that req oh, i thoughting? want to do anything that req oh, i thought that was a bit >> oh, i thought that was a bit of a saucy comment. well, when it comes the spice it comes to the spice girls reuniting, it always seems that victoria has been dragging her feet. >> she's the one they can't quite. >> no, she's got this big fashion career now. she to fashion career now. she wants to be known as a fashion be known more as a fashion designer. think the designer. i think she had the big moment for the london olympics. but i guess to get back stage, not as easy back on stage, it's not as easy as people say. you don't just turn up the day takes turn up on the day it takes a lot of practising , a lot of lot of practising, a lot of training and maybe head's training and maybe her head's just in it. just not interested in it. >> i mean, you know, she's >> also, i mean, you know, she's a multi—millionairess. yeah. why? why why do it if you don't have to? >> well, that's the thing. >> well, that's the thing. >> her fame was off the >> her fame was based off the spice girls. i think for spice girls. so i think for those moments, still those big moments, if you still love the band and you still love the all the ladies, they're still all good friends. don't think good friends. i don't think there's any of them that's fallen out. i think maybe fallen out. i think then maybe why special occasion. why not for a special occasion. but i guess the others need it more her. yeah, they do. more than her. yeah, they do. because she's like a because she's. she's like a brand. she's like brand beckham with the thing is , with david. and the thing is, when the fashion when you're in the fashion world, then to looking world, then to be looking like you're as well, you're a pop star as well, i think feels like it damages think she feels like it damages victoria beckham. >> very conscious . >> she's very image conscious. she is she likes to be seen in a certain she might not certain light. she might not like exposing herself, as it were, looking older. >> well, that's why she's posh spice and she's all over instagram. >> she's always showing pictures of doing her treatments and of her doing her treatments and all that stuff. so this is why people love her. so get back on stage, pick people all fell out of love a little bit or some did with lizzo. >> yeah, but she's fighting back. >> she is . we know about cancel >> she is. we know about cancel culture. usually when people are getting sued, they just take it lying but clearly, lizzo lying down. but clearly, lizzo is it was only a is not having it. it was only a few ago were speaking few weeks ago we were speaking about her backup dancers about how her backup dancers were her for creating a were suing her for creating a hostile environment for fat hostile work environment for fat shaming . there were many shaming. there were so many allegations, including sexual harassment. now come back harassment. she's now come back and she's suing them for malicious prosecution . she's so malicious prosecution. she's so malicious prosecution. she's so malicious prosecution. she's so malicious prosecution . what that malicious prosecution. what that means is that basically the police have pursued a charge against her with not any evidence or any meaning because some of the dancers have said they forced to her go to a club. they forced she forced them to go to a club in paris to dance with strip dancers. she's now got pictures of them enjoying themselves. and they stayed on themselves. and they stayed on the afterwards . so she's the tour afterwards. so she's clearly taking it lying down. >> okay. oh, well , we shall see >> okay. oh, well, we shall see how that one unfolds. >> definitely. we'll you >> definitely. we'll see you a little later on. later. little bit later on. later. thank you . still to come, we'll thank you. still to come, we'll take you through all news take you through all the news and from newspapers . and views from the newspapers. that's coming next on that's coming up next on breakfast 742. good morning. this is breakfast with stephen and anne. >> talking of marriage . >> talking of marriage. >> talking of marriage. >> oh, yes, kathleen. >> oh, yes, kathleen. >> morning . kathleen says we >> morning. kathleen says we were married because we had a £60 tax rebate . we'd only known £60 tax rebate. we'd only known each other for 12 weeks now. we've been married 50 years through thick and thin. we've got three daughters and grandchildren . anne with three grandchildren. anne with three great grandchildren . so maybe great grandchildren. so maybe the tax rebate thing works for £60. >> yeah. elizabeth says, like you, stephen, i was on my own for many years and wasn't looking for love. then i met my husband when i was 39 and we married two years later. oh, we were so incredibly happy 17 were so incredibly happy for 17 wonderful years . but cancer took wonderful years. but cancer took him me in january. him from me in january. >> oh so sorry. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> but i feel very blessed for those years together . those years together. >> yeah, we've ended up talking about marriage and what makes a good and and what good marriage. and and what makes love. i suppose that's the big question . what's this? oh, big question. what's this? oh, this one. simon. morning, simon says my first wife died when i was 38. she was the love of my life then four years later, i met someone new, got married, and it was a disaster. it lasted only six months. be careful who you marry. >> yes, well , thanks for the >> yes, well, thanks for the warning. >> four years on, it sounds like a bit a rebound . do you a bit of a rebound. do you think? isn't never good? think? isn't it never good? anyway, thoughts anyway, keep your thoughts coming through. gb views. gbnews.com let's have a look through the papers with the author and journalist susan holder and co—founder of the together association , alan miller. >> good morning. good morning to you both. >> susan, what's this in the >> so susan, what's this in the daily mail about getting on your bike right . bike right. >> well, yeah, on your bike. vogue is the headline because vogue is the headline because vogue has published its vogue magazine has published its annual list for 2023 of its 25 powerhouse women . i've checked powerhouse women. i've checked anne and neither of us are there. i i know, i know. i mean, obviously, i wouldn't expect me to be there, but it's an absolute travesty that you're not absolutely. however, i had absolute travesty that you're no googlertely. however, i had absolute travesty that you're no google who however, i had absolute travesty that you're no google who was/ever, i had absolute travesty that you're no google who was onzr, i had absolute travesty that you're no google who was onzr, i list to google who was on the list other than the person who's getting the headlines because the getting the headlines the person getting the headlines is is the only sports is annoyingly is the only sports representative. representative who is transgender and emily bridges. and you may not have heard of emily bridges. and it would be understandable if you hadnt would be understandable if you hadn't because her her sporting success seemed to have peaked with winning the national junior men's record in 2018. >> it's one of those stories again, isn't it? and it is one of those stories. >> so i decided not to talk too much about that. and google instead. who was on the list? because i was quite interested to know other people were to know who other people were and of the people who are and some of the people who are not mentioned in the are not mentioned in the papers are kylie actress jodie kylie minogue, the actress jodie comer, who's comer, killing eve, who's a fantastic actress , the designer comer, killing eve, who's a fantasburtoness , the designer comer, killing eve, who's a fantas burton .;s , the designer comer, killing eve, who's a fantasburton . camillaiesigner comer, killing eve, who's a fantasburton . camilla is igner comer, killing eve, who's a fantasburton . camilla is there sarah burton. camilla is there bertens no, she's not behind bertens, but she isn't . she i bertens, but she isn't. she i think she worked for alexander mcqueen. that's what i was going to say and designed catherine's wedding dress, correct? >> well , then we got that. yeah. >> well, then we got that. yeah. >> well, then we got that. yeah. >> and penny mordaunt is also on there. oh and there's other. there's designers , activists. there's designers, activists. there's designers, activists. there's some models and entrepreneurs . and if you're entrepreneurs. and if you're interested in that list, i would suggest you go and maybe look at it. although i don't know why we're doing vogue any favours because. cause i don't think it really is. we've got so much female sporting heroes in this country and we don't even have to think. >> that's why vogue has done it. >> that's why vogue has done it. >> do you think what we're talking about and we are talking about and i don't also about it and but i don't also think does the trans gender think it does the trans gender women good that is the women much good if that is the only person that they put up. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> and knowing it's a sport and trans is a controversial correct time. >> so that's why it's there . >> so that's why it's there. >> so that's why it's there. >> correct. >> correct. >> so it's a bit of a maybe it is a bit of a cynical ploy by vogue. >> well, it might be there because they genuinely believe it. and i think that's one of the bigger problems, because it's vogue that it's not just vogue that believes it's a of our believes that it's a lot of our what is person who is she what is a person who is she belongs women's race. it's belongs in a women's race. it's our companies. it's across the board. policies board. we have policies that insist in fact, graham insist on it. in fact, graham stringer got a very stringer has got a very interesting piece today as well on question. about on this question. just about trans seeking total trans ideologies seeking total power. and it's not about trans people. this is about activists that also want to cancel and prevent anyone who raises questions . he makes the point questions. he makes the point that actually dawn butler got up and said that sex is undecided in children and he's talking about x x chromosomes and x and y . and he thought that was about y. and he thought that was about just biological sex being clear. so i'm not sure it is just trying to get press and pr. i think that people have bought into this and they're trying to kind of impose it as though, i mean, if you challenge it or ask questions, you're presented as beyond the pale and that's a real problem . real problem. >> it is a problem. >> it is a problem. >> yeah. okay >> yeah. okay >> why we have to keep >> which is why we have to keep doing it. >> lot the issues with >> but a lot of the issues with this is people, a lot of people with the loudest voices are the people with least people with the least understanding people with the least understaralso what's happened is >> well, also what's happened is that activists that some of these activists have in our public have taken hold in our public and private sector without a debate once the debate with the public. once the public's they think public's involved, they think this is preposterous. but you see, not about being see, it's not about being democratic winning democratic and winning hearts and minds. they've to and minds. they've attempted to capture institutions and it's become problematic. i would become problematic. but i would say , particularly say that many, particularly brave in last couple brave women in the last couple of years, have turned that around . and i think we need to around. and i think we need to have more of that. >> i think so, too. >> do you really? >> do you really? >> i think women have to start standing up to this and saying that to protect female that we need to protect female spaces we need to have women spaces and we need to have women from the from from from what? from the from from men being able to use all spaces that they want. and also having to define what a woman is all the time. nobody ever asks a man what to define a man, but we're constantly having to redefine ourselves or be recalled. a cis woman. i'm not a cis woman. i'm a i don't need another a woman. i don't need another little name little prefix against my name to tell who am or to tell tell me who i am or to tell anybody else who i am. and if you if people want to be transgender and, you know, live how they want, that's fine. but they can't different they can't impose different rules and different on everybody else. and it isn't safe for women to have men be able to go into any space they want. >> yes. but now the issue with thatis >> yes. but now the issue with that is that it's not that isn't about to trans women and not men. no, it's not. >> no. >> no. >> well, so you're talking you're talking about people who are. no and it isn't trans. and so you are. so you are. >> so you are. >> you are. and that is the but thatis >> you are. and that is the but that is the door you've opened, isn't it? >> yeah. but you end up. >> yeah. but you end up. >> and why are we the ones to compromise? >> you end up having a generating anti—trans feeling. >> but it isn't anti—trans. >> but it isn't anti—trans. >> it's protecting women, but it's you're redefining it as anti—trans, i think. do you see what i mean. >> i think i see what you mean. i disagree. >> but also trans women in female sports is also an entirely different area, isn't it? >> but that is the problem. you can't just have people saying, well, this is what i am now, so i can do whatever i want. i mean, and also it's an interesting debate for me because men who transitioned to women and they go, oh, but we're being told what to well, being told what to do. well, welcome being a woman. that's welcome to being a woman. that's a what like. and it has a bit what it's like. and it has it's been problematic. it's always been problematic. it's always been a bit problematic. it's always been a bit pro i.ematic. it's always been a bit pro i.ema say i don't want to >> i just say i don't want to harp on about this issue. i just think there's a there's a huge i don't misogyny is the right word about it. there's always an issue becoming or issue with men becoming women or men as being men who are perceived as being feminine or sissy or pansy or whatever . when it goes the other whatever. when it goes the other way around . there was always an way around. there was always an issue with gay men, never with lesbians. well and there's yeah. and there's no issue at all. half the trans community, women who've become men, they're not in any of these stories because nobody cares. >> well, because they're not actually, they're not because they're from i can they're not. from what i can see, the ones. and it is true that it's small examples, but small examples are important. if you're in a refuge centre, a women's refuge centre, or if you happen to be in a prison, or if you've been in a rapist or an abductor or like the recent character who'd been a torturer and abuser who was then telling people to smash in the people to smash women in the face, terfs in the face, smash the terfs in the face, smash the terfs in the face, we've seen violent attacks on in on women speakers corner in australia . internationally, australia. internationally, we've seen a kind of a situation where very, very aggressive was associated with male behaviour. it's not gender specific any aggressive. but but interestingly , you know where interestingly, you know where you have this and i think the big problem is it's really important to thrash these out to and discuss these points. but we've been in a climate where people have been cancelled , shut people have been cancelled, shut down, they've been attempted to have livelihoods ruined have their livelihoods ruined for the outrage of asking questions and saying, i don't agree with that. that's where the real issue is here with this is how it's how well it's how you ask it. >> i agree. you've got to be able to ask a question. things it's how you it, i think. but it's how you do it, i think. but anyway. >> oh, that might be from the trans debate. >> about exams? gcses? alan >> how about exams? gcses? alan yes. >> well we see maybe a tale >> so? well we see maybe a tale of cities is where for the of two cities is where for the report today is that london centric policies are blamed for the north south exam results gap and basically what this report is talking about, the gcses are 28% of london got a's or a pluses where under 18% in the north—east did. and the thinking behind this is that the consequence pieces of policies around covid, around lockdowns , around covid, around lockdowns, the cost of living crisis, the way there's a disparate impact on the north—east to the south, all to do with issues around levelling up and question around what you know , david goodhart what you know, david goodhart has called the somewhere as people who are not in the sort of cosy metropolitan areas. but what that really means and it looks at the differential . and looks at the differential. and whilst some are attempting to say, well, look, this we've had a great bounce back and better results all round is a definite differential. interestingly some have argued that this would give rise to the need for a differential approach to education a bit more like you have in the states where you have in the states where you have some more charter schools and others. we know that some of the academies have done quite well, certainly well, but it's certainly the case that and it's always been the case that some people from wealthier backgrounds, particularly the south particularly in the south east, are more better and this are doing more better and this has been accentuated here. i do think the consequence of think that the consequence of lockdowns, the article makes the point in the guardian that a lot of people not returning to school or children not returning to school, particularly in the north northeast, has north and the northeast, has had consequences. the consequences of lockdowns and policies around covid we're seeing play out, as we said we would in damaging ways . ways. >> okay. interesting points, i'm sure. let's just finish off with susan in the mail. the wonky poll. >> the wonky poll. >> the wonky poll. >> what i don't understand about this is and i'm arson bad, all the rest of it bad. yeah. but but so many headlines over a derelict pub that was burnt down. yes i know it's weird. >> it is weird. down. yes i know it's weird. >> it is weird . and it is a >> it is weird. and it is a story that i've been following as a as a black country girl. and, you know, i did work on the black country bugle as my first ever newspaper. and am very ever newspaper. so and i am very ihave ever newspaper. so and i am very i have been following this story. um, yeah, it was it was a very unusual pub that had all very unusual pub that had all very you know, outside very wonky, you know, outside and inside and very quirky and clearly it was much loved . now, clearly it was much loved. now, the question, of course, is, was it loved enough to be used to be a going concern ? and if it had a going concern? and if it had been, maybe this wouldn't have happened to it. but it does look like that people wanted to use the area for something else , the area for something else, possibly. and that is why it's met its demise. and there were lots of kind of things that went on that have been very on that people have been very angry all over social angry about all over social media, particularly in the black country. of country. there's lots of campaigns, now campaigns, but they have now arrested men over the arrested two men over the possible arson. but more interestingly, i thought they've also actually be the local councillors have made them leave the bricks and the foundations because they want it rebuilt, don't they, at the site and they're being protected at the moment because they are looking to try rebuild this, which to try and rebuild this, which would very interesting if would be very interesting if they managed to that and then they managed to do that and then maybe it would a very maybe it would be a very, very popular and people will popular place and people will go back it. popular place and people will go baci it. popular place and people will go baci think maybe it would. >> i think maybe it would. >> i think maybe it would. >> susan allen, we need to leave it there. thanks very much indeed. it there. thanks very much ind�*should catch up with the >> should we catch up with the weather? looks like things are heating boilers proud sponsors >> boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news alex deakin with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> good morning . a case of >> good morning. a case of dodging the downpours today and tomorrow. the long weekends will stay on the cool side , but it stay on the cool side, but it should get a little drier as the weekend goes on. many of us starting a little chilly out there this morning, but with some decent spells of sunshine . some decent spells of sunshine. clouds to bubble up pretty clouds going to bubble up pretty rapidly through the morning and then a scattering of then we'll see a scattering of showers developing. suspect showers developing. i suspect parts will parts of eastern england will stay dry and the showers fairly well scattered elsewhere. so some sunshine through. some sunshine coming through. the to will the main exception to that will be scotland it be northern scotland where it stays wet and fairly windy as well. always on the cool side of fresher compared to fresher feel compared to yesterday anglia and fresher feel compared to yestsouth—east, anglia and fresher feel compared to yestsouth—east, temperatures nd the south—east, temperatures high teens at best for many. still a few heavy showers around this evening, creating a bit of spray and surface water on the roads, staying fairly wet overnight across western scotland and fairly windy here as well. and that'll lead into another showery day tomorrow . another showery day tomorrow. again, temperatures dipping down into single figures in rural spots. most towns and cities staying in double figures tonight. onto the weekend , then tonight. onto the weekend, then a bank holiday for many of us. of course, there will be some sunshine around on saturday, but there will also be a lot of showers tomorrow, some heavy ones likely northern ones likely over northern england, wales, but england, parts of wales, but developing again developing more widely again through so you'll be through the day. so you'll be lucky completely dry lucky to stay completely dry tomorrow. showers where they tomorrow. the showers where they do occur pretty heavy tomorrow. the showers where they do oeven pretty heavy tomorrow. the showers where they do oeven thundery.»retty heavy tomorrow. the showers where they do oeven thundery.»rettyagain, on and even thundery. and again, on the for the of the cool side for the time of yean the cool side for the time of year, temperatures high teens at best, should get a bit best, but it should get a bit dfier best, but it should get a bit drier as go through the drier as we go through the weekend. looks like things are heating up by next boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. what's love got to do with it? >> that's what i say is tina turner once said, richard says maybe people do marry for love, but then wake up one morning and discover they don't actually like other . like each other. >> don't think so. love and >> i don't think so. love and life is different as well, though, isn't it? love and marriage together like marriage go together like a horse and carriage. marriage go together like a hormakei carriage. dominating the news, the first ever taken of a former president, mr trump, after he was charged with trying to overturn the election results in 2020. he our energy prices might actually drop this winter as ofgem announce the new energy price cap . we've got the latest price cap. we've got the latest showbiz news, including some revelations about jennifer aniston's romantic life . aniston's romantic life. >> she still looks so fabulous , >> she still looks so fabulous, doesn't she? >> yes, she does. it's sickening as it is. >> let's have the latest weather from alex, a cool start out there today with some sunshine. >> we are going to see a few showers developing and then we're into the weekend and a bank holiday for many of us. i'll a full forecast coming i'll have a full forecast coming up morning to you. i'm stephen dixon. >> and i'm anne diamond, and this is breakfast on gb news. >> see, jennifer aniston's had a few divorces. she's been married while she was married to brad pitt . yeah. did she not marry pitt. yeah. did she not marry that other fella ? don't know. that other fella? don't know. she's with him for a while and. but she's. why is it that she's so . so. hey, she looks fabulous so. so. hey, she looks fabulous . but also, we have this wall warmth for her. i don't know what she's like in real life. i have no idea. >> no, i've never met her ehhen >> no, i've never met her either. but she i mean, she was such a wonderful character in friends. and of course, that ran for many years. so you feel for so many years. so you feel you her, but also a lot of you know her, but also a lot of the work she's done have the other work she's done have been comedies. very, been comedies. she's a very, very good actress. yes. very good comic actress. yes. she's comic films with dogs she's done comic films with dogs , was a famous , hasn't she? there was a famous dog oh, molly me. molly dog one. oh, molly and me. molly and which was wonderful. and and me, which was wonderful. and so she's done. she's done so maybe she's done. she's done the movies she's done, the sort of movies she's done, the sort of movies she's done, the sort of parts that makes you feel very warm towards her. yeah, next door, yeah, she's the girl next door, isn't without being isn't she? without being impossibly next door. impossibly the girl next door. but she really is one of the news stories that during the week, sometime was that she's got this new beauty product that she's trying out salmon sperm . she's trying out salmon sperm. yeah.i she's trying out salmon sperm. yeah. i can't believe i just said that's on television . yeah said that's on television. yeah apparently, goodness knows how you get it. harvest it. exactly but apparently it's very good for the skin. i cannot even think why it would be. but there you go. it's not one that i think many women are going to try and copy. no, sorry. does that put you off your breakfast? >> no. it'sjust so that put you off your breakfast? >> no. it's just so many things i say. i know, but i'm not i could say. i know, but i'm not going it reminds me of an going to. it reminds me of an episode of that's life. remember that with esther rantzen. that live with esther rantzen. and one of the things i remember, they were out remember, they were trying out some new beauty once and some new beauty product once and it made from cows placenta. it was made from cows placenta. oh yeah. and that was the thing. i remember them trying that out. i remember them trying that out. i must. >> that's almost a well known one now. i think cow placenta. you to clinics in you can travel to clinics in switzerland and be injected with placenta type stuff . yeah, i placenta type stuff. yeah, i mean, really, if you have to try that hard. but people have got the money to do it haven't they. yeah absolutely. >> what's wrong with a bit of e45. well, exactly, exactly. >> or as my mum used to say, just drink water. it's the best thing you can do for your skin is just to keep drinking water. >> about night cream. do ladies still put night on? still put night cream on? because my always did because my grandma always did that. always went to bed and that. she always went to bed and she slept on. a lot of she always slept on. a lot of pond's. >> they used exactly. >> yes, they used exactly. pond's name pond's made their name practically and practically on night cream and day things that . day cream and things like that. i think, know, nowadays you i think, you know, nowadays you just moisturise darling. do just moisturise, darling. oh. do you often wondered, how do you sleep cream ? sleep with night cream? >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> you greasy pillow . >> you know, greasy pillow. >> you know, greasy pillow. >> pillow. yeah. yeah and >> greasy pillow. yeah. yeah and then a hairnet and all that . a then a hairnet and all that. a hairnet and. hairnet on and. >> yeah. put your teeth in. >> yeah. and put your teeth in. >> yeah. and put your teeth in. >> yeah. and put your teeth in. >> yeah. yes, she did put her teeth in the jar. yeah god love her. >> yeah. i know. >> yeah. i know. >> some of the simpler days somehow. >> yeah. actually, not necessarily better actually. when you think of like that. >> oh dear. why we moved from that to donald trump. i'm not really sure. i'm trying to find a segue, except it's all about image, isn't it? >> to it certainly is. and >> to him, it certainly is. and extraordinarily , they've extraordinarily, they've released overnight released a mugshot overnight from in court from his appearance in court yesterday . and yeah . yesterday. and yeah. >> did you know that you can now buy a mug already with that mugshot on? no, they're on the internet already. >> i suppose they would be. that's fast work, isn't it? because it was only released at about 3:00 this morning. yeah, but a police mugshot as but it is a police mugshot as you see. but it is. i think, you can see. but it is. i think, one the most glamorous i've one of the most glamorous i've ever not saying it's ever seen. i'm not saying it's him his best, he looks him at his best, but he looks made up . his him at his best, but he looks made up. his hair quaffed. he made up. his hair is quaffed. he he doesn't look like your ordinary mug shot. it's quite you know, it's almost as though he had a hair and makeup session before. >> yes. he's not shambolic in it. no. >> nor looking distressed. he's looking very fierce. >> furious, i would say. >> furious, i would say. >> yeah. well actually, no doubt, because he's facing 13 felony in the state of felony counts in the state of georgia regarding his efforts allegedly , i suppose, to allegedly, i suppose, to overturn the state's 2020 presidential election result . presidential election result. >> of course, he is not one to back down. so he came out of all of that telling broadcasters that he has every right to challenge an election that he felt was unfair to. thank you very much for being here. >> i really believe this is a very sad day for america. this should never happen. if you challenge an election, you should be able to challenge an election. i thought the election was a rigged election. a stolen election , and i should have election, and i should have every right to do that. as you know, you have many people that you've watching you've been watching over the years. do the same thing. what has place here is has taken place here is a travesty of justice. did travesty of justice. we did nothing wrong. did nothing nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong, it. wrong, and everybody knows it. i've never such support and i've never had such support and that goes with the other ones too. what they're doing is election interference. they're trying to interfere an trying to interfere with an election when never been election when there's never been anything it in our country anything like it in our country before . this is their way of before. this is their way of campaigning and this is one instance. but you have three other instances. it's election interference. we did nothing wrong at all. and we have every right, every single right to challenge an election that we think is dishonest, that we think is dishonest, that we think it's very dishonest. >> well, joining us now is scott lucas, professor emeritus of international studies at the university of birmingham . lovely university of birmingham. lovely to see you again. he's right, isn't he? he has the right, of course, anybody would, to challenge the result of the election. but maybe not in the way he did . and he's right as way he did. and he's right as well. in suggesting that he has never had such support . never had such support. >> well, my first thought this morning was what secret beauty regime has donald trump been using for that mugshot ? linking using for that mugshot? linking up with your previous item? my second thought was as journalists and as analysts, it's to going be really important to keep our eyes on the facts on the legal process, on the american system, to and be able to cut through the political spin and frankly, the disinformation. so let me take political spin and frankly, the disyournation. so let me take political spin and frankly, the disyour two>n. so let me take political spin and frankly, the disyour two points. et me take political spin and frankly, the dis your two points. and e take political spin and frankly, the dis your two points. and the ke up your two points. and the first one on the legal side is , first one on the legal side is, is that indictments both at is that the indictments both at the federal level and at the georgia state level, have said that donald right. donald trump, like any body, has the right to comment on an election. donald right. has trump has the right to say he thinks the election was rigged . the question is not was rigged. the question is not that. the question is, is whether donald trump and his 18 co—defendants in georgia took action knowing that they were issuing false statements in other words, fraudulent statements, and then took action not just to complain about the election, but to overturn it. in other words, a plan carried out over three months to remove the legally selected the legally elected representatives of joe biden and to parachute in trump's fake electors to try to overturn the result in georgia and other states . in other and other states. in other words, trying to cling on to the white house, not by being elected, but through deception or as trump would put it, through interference is your second question. and think is even more important for us in the media and as analysts. and thatis the media and as analysts. and that is to stop going on about the polls , because what happens the polls, because what happens here is , is that trump sets off here is, is that trump sets off a self—reinforcing cycle. a lot of people know who he is. he does have a base who support him. but then he keeps saying, look at the polls and the legal process will only make me stronger here. and by focusing only on him, we don't talk about the other candidates in the race. only a day after the first republican debate, we don't talk about the important issues facing america. we only talk about trump. and we only talk about trump. and if we only talk about trump. and if we only talk about trump, he turns out the sun. and he's the only one that the media can find in the darkness. >> does any of this matter? scott in the sense that i mean, i know we've talked many times and you say, you know, in terms of the legal side of it, you've got to look at the facts and not be put off by the spin and all the rest of it, which is absolutely valid. i totally agree however does any agree with you. however does any of matter in the sense that of it matter in the sense that even if he is convicted , this even if he is convicted, this does seem to be playing in his favour? and actually it doesn't seem like it would in any way stop stop his ability to become the nominee or indeed to win the presidency . well you know, presidency. well you know, again, a quick back check to cut through the spin and that is after the federal indictment last early this month , after the last early this month, after the georgia indictments, donald trump has slipped in the polls in the first republican contest that take place next january and next february . next february. >> but the more important point here is, is that the political process is separate. it is separate from the legal system . separate from the legal system. once you keep talking about the polls and once you basically follow trump's line, which is if you prosecute me, if you prosecute me, it'll just make me stronger. you put your thumbs on the scales of justice. in other words, let the political process unfold as it may. but that does not give donald trump immunity from prosecution . in other from prosecution. in other words, even if he's elected president, he has to be held accountable before the law. >> but look at what happened . >> but look at what happened. was it yesterday or last last night or the night before when the republican hopefuls all joined in the debate? it was on fox news, i think, wasn't it ? fox news, i think, wasn't it? and trump wasn't there . so you and trump wasn't there. so you can argue there that the political process was happening without him, and yet he still managed to grab all the headunes managed to grab all the headlines and it was watched on on x as it is now. twitter he was watched by some 200 million people. he still even if the political process insists on going ahead without him, he still manages to be bigger than that. >> well, that 200 million figure is a bit suspect for reasons i can explain later. but you just reinforce my point. an turn off the lights and there's only trump to be followed in the darkness. so what happens? we've got eight candidates trying to make their names , some of them make their names, some of them with extensive political experience , like the former vice experience, like the former vice president mike pence or the former un ambassador, nikki haley. trying to discuss haley. they're trying to discuss important issues like abortion , important issues like abortion, like immigration, like the economy . so what does donald economy. so what does donald trump do? he sets him up self his self with his friend his self up with his friend tucker a man who was tucker carlson, a man who was considered extreme that he considered so extreme that he was let go by fox tv . and then was let go by fox tv. and then trump says , it's me. it's me and trump says, it's me. it's me and tucker. trump says, it's me. it's me and tucker . and what does trump say? tucker. and what does trump say? trump says that the events of the capital attack on january 6th, 2021, and these are his exact words , were a beautiful exact words, were a beautiful day , which involved people who day, which involved people who loved america. so rather than us talking about the serious challenge to the american system and democracy , people ignore and democracy, people ignore what's happening in milwaukee and go to x or twitter or whatever. elon musk calls it these days. and just simply have this diet of misinformation, of inqu this diet of misinformation, of insult and indeed of threat . and insult and indeed of threat. and the question at the end of the day is, look, at the end of the day, people are going to have to make their choices politically. but terms the legitimacy but in terms of the legitimacy of and political of the legal and political system always remember system to always remember that donald trying to set a donald trump is trying to set a narrative that is not exactly the to day reality that we the day to day reality that we face in america, or indeed in the uk. >> why do people believe him and i'm not making myself popular with a lot of our viewers now. and i know it. but there's someone who has spent his entire career as an has as well. you know , talking to politicians, know, talking to politicians, understanding how politics works. you can see through what donald trump is doing politically a lot of the time . politically a lot of the time. you can't always take him seriously . you can't always take him seriously. i'd argue you can't take him seriously most of the time, really. and yet people absolutely swallow what he has to say. it's almost like a cult , right ? , right? >> well, you know, i wouldn't go that way because i think you have to respect the fact that if you go back to 2015, 2016, even though donald trump's was pretty much a reality tv star, even though he wasn't actually that successful as a businessman , successful as a businessman, what he did was , is he was what he did was, is he was tapping into an america where many people did not like hillary clinton, did not think that she should hold the office. >> many people were still suffering from the effects of the great recession of 2008, 2009, and america had become polarised. it had become an us versus them society and trump steps in as the like the showman or shall we say it, the snake oil salesman who says, i can make it all better. and by deaung make it all better. and by dealing with the illusion , by dealing with the illusion, by deaung dealing with the illusion, by dealing with the illusion, by dealing with spectacle, by deaung dealing with spectacle, by dealing with spectacle, by dealing with his own ego and making it larger than life, he does draw people and he does draw people in and he raises the stakes. because what he says is, is if you ever don't believe me, if you ever don't buy the show, if you ever don't buy the show, if you ever don't buy the show, if you ever don't buy the snake oil, you're choosing dark forces. you're choosing dark forces. you're choosing the deep state over me. you're choosing the enemies over me. and people get entrenched in that because it's very hard . and that because it's very hard. and you know this. and when people get entrenched an opinion, get entrenched in an opinion, it's hard to pull back from it because you lose all that investment you've made , which because you lose all that inve�*with nt you've made , which because you lose all that inve�*with trump, e made , which because you lose all that inve�*with trump, goesde , which 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. and it didn't have done that. and it didn't actually result in anything. but never the never the less it was it was historic moment. and no one but him could have done it. and so i tried to be really objective. but as scott says, there is also a lot of snake oil. and so with with the same mind, i look at it and go, but a lot of what he says is nonsense. well, remember the bleach drinking the. >> oh, sorry . there's a bleach. >> oh, sorry. there's a bleach. the bleach. yes yes. yeah. oh, the people shaking their head in disbelief at what he was saying. but it shows the power of fame. i think nowadays celebrity , if i think nowadays celebrity, if you like, it annoys me equally that people start talking seriously about meghan markle running for president. seriously about meghan markle running for president . and this running for president. and this is silly. you know , this is is silly. you know, this is fame. this isn't serious politics. and as we heard there, as scott said, the there are really serious issues to be debated and nobody is there trying to. but they get shouted down all the time. now, i do think there's a big argument to be had about about having serious politicians in charge, whether it's over here or or or in the united states. >> the problem with that is, of course, means sunak on the front of the express. i mean, a lot of people were saying, well, rush, is the grown up in the room compared to boris johnson, who was very much a showman. but was very much a showman. and but then rishi is not really achieved a great deal, has it? no, no . especially on these five no, no. especially on these five pledges. mean, that hasn't pledges. i mean, that hasn't worked . worked either. >> it's almost as though you need both, don't you? you need to be famous. you need to be a celebrity or be or have a massive presence, but also be a serious politician. and that may be a very combination be a very difficult combination to did it. well a lot >> see, obama did it. well a lot of people don't like obama. well, the states. well, they don't in the states. no, not not popular in the states. >> they feel he was he didn't actually achieve very much. >> but popular everywhere else. when footage of when you look at footage of obama day and there obama back in the day and there is a comfort in he seems to be addressing things grown up in the room in a grown up way. >> who's your who's your favourite world statesman alive or dead actually? and why ? or dead actually? and why? because it's a fascinating one, people. i mean, i know there will be people who say churchill, but there were a lot of detractors about churchill, and increasingly we and increasingly so now as we revise everything . so let us go revise everything. so let us go gbviews@gbnews.com. let us know who your favourite statesman or woman is or was he really interesting to hear and why ? interesting to hear and why? >> please now the energy regulator ofgem has this morning announced that the next price cap that covers october to december is £1,923. that's for the average household in england , wales and scotland. and it's dropping from just over £2,000 in july. >> now, analysts are also saying that therefore, a typical annual bill could be £150 cheaper. this winter. that's the annual bill. but of course , we have reduced but of course, we have reduced help from the government and higher fixed costs for many. so are we actually going to see much difference in what we do pay? >> let's pay-7 >> let's talk to angela knight from chief executive at energy uk. good to see you this morning. do you think we will actually notice any difference in our pockets ? in our pockets? >> well, i think so, because it's not just about what's going to happen over the next 2 to 3 months. looking ahead, the pfices months. looking ahead, the prices have stabilised on the wholesale market. so actually what we're looking at is, yes, more than paying more than we were before we had the crisis before putin invaded ukraine. and that sent all the world gas pfices and that sent all the world gas prices wild. so we're not going back to those days , but we're back to those days, but we're also not going back to last winter where prices were shooting all over the place. we're looking at a situation now in which the gas and electricity pfices in which the gas and electricity prices are far more stable and they're far more stable across this winter. so it is good news in that respect . in that respect. >> but the headline as we see it there on the screen, the ofgem's cap drops to 1923. that's sort of on the face of it. sounds good. of on the face of it. sounds good . does that mean we are good. does that mean we are therefore probably very unlikely to get any help from the government this winter to pay our bills? >> well, you'll get help if you fall into some of the categories . liz, you still get this warm home discount which is available to people who are on to many people who are on benefits . there's the assistance benefits. there's the assistance to old age pensioners there. it's there as well. and to disabled people. what it means is that people like you, ann and me, we're not going to get any help. you know, you can't forever take money out of one pocket and put it into another. you know, out of some sort of general taxpayer pot and pass it back ourselves . so poor end back to ourselves. so poor end of societies , those in trouble, of societies, those in trouble, yes, they get assistance. and by the should say there's the way, i should say there's also far more compulsion now on energy companies to help those who difficulty. the who get into difficulty. but the main stream of us who are earning reasonably, we will we will have to pay more for our gas and electricity from now on. but as i say , not as much as we but as i say, not as much as we were paying across the winter, because even with the help last winter, prices were higher than this . this. >> okay, angela knight, good to see you. thanks very much indeed . no go on. yeah, yeah. >> hopefully i'll get a bit of help. yeah, well, it's just as well, isn't it? >> because you get your old age, turn the heating on. >> yes. >> yes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it's blimming cold at the moment and it's august. >> i sort of think well you know, paid into the know, you've paid into the system enough . i know it's system long enough. i know it's quite right. system long enough. i know it's quite rigget your, get your help >> you get your, get your help as say it . as a don't say it. >> don't say the word no . >> don't say the word no. >> don't say the word no. >> an elder statesman of our society. >> yes. a veteran broadcaster. somebody called me veteran. oh, gosh. >> i think when you reach an age , you you know, if you've paid in all the rest of it. >> oh, no, i have it back. >> yeah, i really do think if you if you paid in, if you've done your bit, why shouldn't you. >> yeah. quite right. >> yeah. quite right. >> there are other ways you can contribute to society aren't there. >> yes there are. >> yes there are. >> 8:20 now. members of parliament who lose their seat at the next election are going to receive double the financial support that they did before . support that they did before. >> yeah, so if you lose, if you fight and lose your seat, mps currently get two months wages . currently get two months wages. but the independent parliamentary standards authority ipso the one that also keeps recommending they get pay rises as well. that's cynically written, has ruled that they should now get four months wages in future and four months. i mean it's redundancy pay basically. >> it's a golden handshake in a way, isn't it ? >> it's a golden handshake in a way, isn't it? in any >> it's a golden handshake in a way, isn't it ? in any other way, isn't it? in any other industry, it's almost unthinkable, isn't it? should we talk to our political editor, christopher hope you'll know. hello there, christopher . christopher hope you'll know. hello there, christopher. hi. i think a lot of people watching might be quite, quite surprised to find that mps who are leaving parliament or even standing down get some sort of a golden handshake. get some sort of a golden handshake . yeah yeah, i'm going. handshake. yeah yeah, i'm going. >> i'm going to correct stephen. it's even worse than stephen says. this is not a redundancy payment. stephen they get that already. that's double statutory payments. so an mp serving five years another, 5 or years gets another, gets 5 or £6000. that's their redundancy. see, called a winding up see, this is called a winding up payment to up their payment, but to wind up their offices previously got offices previously they got eight pay to wrap up eight weeks pay to wrap up everything and tie up all the loose ends in the office. now it's 16 weeks. it's going to be 16 weeks. that's extra £8,600 to tie up that's an extra £8,600 to tie up all the loose ends in the office. now, there won't be a vote on this. there's a consultation earlier this year andipso consultation earlier this year and ipso this this body , which and ipso this this body, which runs all the pay for the people behind me, mps has said it's going to go through. it really goes back to we had lots of surprising elections in 2017, two 2019, this election next yearis two 2019, this election next year is the first one we've known is coming for a while. all ipso tell me the reason why they're doing this is because they're doing this is because the government has dropped the fixed term parliaments act, which that elections every which meant that elections every five but think some five years. but i think some people pondering about the kind of only small reduction in the in the energy price cap might be wondering how much money is going towards. mps yeah , but i going towards. mps yeah, but i mean i know it's very easy to be cynical about this , but isn't it cynical about this, but isn't it right that mps and the people working in their offices, it's not just about the mps , you know not just about the mps, you know that these matters are wound up in a in a proper way. >> i mean, it's all about the people they represent, isn't it 7 people they represent, isn't it ? yeah but if you know an election is coming next year and it's coming in may, june or october, november , how much time october, november, how much time do you need? >> they've got already got two months for it now . they're going months for it now. they're going to get four months do it to get four months to do it after the election. but if you know it's coming, you know what's happening. can start what's happening. you can start taking earlier, earlier taking measures earlier, earlier than were. might than that. some were. some might argue taxpayers argue certainly the taxpayers alliance, body is alliance, this this this body is really, really think it's a kick in teeth of people suffering in the teeth of people suffering with of living crisis. with the cost of living crisis. this our money taxpayers this is our money taxpayers money towards it. there money going towards it. there won't vote. it's going to won't be a vote. it's going to happen. maybe a debate happen. it may be maybe a debate for news today. for gb news viewers today. >> absolutely . yeah. i think >> absolutely. yeah. i think that's something that people would actually. would be quite actually. christopher, go , can christopher, before you go, can i ask you, i'm sure a few i just ask you, i'm sure a few years ago, mps used to get far more this, didn't they used more than this, didn't they used to golden handshakes of to get golden handshakes of something 50 grand? something like 50 grand? >> yeah, well , something like 50 grand? >> yeah, well, and it depends on the service. so it can go up and down the truth is they now get on the redundancy payment, which is separate to this. they get twice the statutory level, they get the level that civil servants get. so an mp serving for five years gets around six grand. so an mp serving for 20 years might get four times that figure. so they get redundancy. they're now going to have longer to wrap loose ends in their to wrap up loose ends in their office. but as i say, because the mp the election, we know when to be we're back when it's going to be we're back to idea elections to the normal idea of elections every years. some might every five years. some might question this increase question whether this increase is . is necessary. >> thanks >> okay, christopher, thanks very much indeed. and because this and this winding up doesn't apply to people who've already said they're not going to stand at the next election, are you sure about that? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, one of the newspapers has got it wrong then, because i read something about it. even if they've decided to stand down how. >> now. >> no, no, wouldn't be right. >> no, it's only those people who who are who stand and who are who are who stand and lose as and as you said, i mean, it's a very i mean, that's where politics can be a very cruel thing. >> you can be doing very well. you can be hopeful. you've you've been campaigning hard and then suddenly you're unemployed. that's it. suddenly. >> yeah . yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> so are your staff. >> and so are your staff. >> and so are your staff. >> yes. and that's that's probably the most important thing . all the other people thing. all the other people who've been faith faithfully working for you, probably for the five years more , the last five years or more, suddenly lose their jobs just like too. must be like that, too. that must be very hard . very hard. >> know it's very easy to >> so i know it's very easy to get our knickers in a twist over this or whenever mps. this or whenever it's mps. i know people do, but i think you've got it's got to be handled right. i mean, i'm not saying to double the saying it's right to double the time i don't time because i just don't know how long takes to wind these how long it takes to wind these things don't know. never things up. don't know. never done it. but we've got to view it in a different way. i mean, so down to ipso down to so it's down to ipso not down to the yeah the mps. yeah >> they always hide behind that though, don't they? >> yeah, it's not. >> well, yeah, but it's not. >> well, yeah, but it's not. >> mean like with their >> i mean it's like with their pay >> i mean it's like with their pay they don't have any say on it at all. no. no. and to be fair spend most of their fair they spend most of their time fighting with ipso mps because they have to because that's how they have to have done have all their expenses done through. that scandal. >> well, that's right. i think they still bear weight of they still bear the weight of that scandal, don't that expenses scandal, don't they? have to be seen to be they? they have 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morning like this on the daily express. the prime minister says the vast £4 billion spend on asylum is unacceptable and he has said there's only one way of dealing with that , and that's to stop with that, and that's to stop the boats in the first place. >> well, perhaps that's a fair point. let's see what the shadow minister for the cabinet office, baroness chapman, it baroness chapman, makes of it all. to you this all. good to see you this morning. i mean, the prime minister has got a point, hasn't he? know, stopping the boats he? you know, stopping the boats in first will will in the first place will will stop this. but clearly stop some of this. but clearly we've still start working we've still got to start working pretty pronto on the backlog . pretty pronto on the backlog. >> well, yeah , i mean, it's >> well, yeah, i mean, it's fine. the prime minister is saying that if only he was in a position to do something about it, isn't it? i mean, it's extra ordinary. the prime minister making statements like that when they've the show making statements like that when the13'e the show making statements like that when the13 years the show making statements like that when the13 years and the show making statements like that when the13 years and now the show making statements like that when the13 years and now they show making statements like that when the13 years and now they sayv for 13 years and now they say it's unacceptable. well, it is unacceptable. and you know how many you talk about the backlog , but do you know how many of the 45,000 people who crossed in a small boat last year? how many of have been of their claims have been processed ? it's 1. you know, processed? it's 1. you know, this system is in absolute crisis . yes. and it's been crisis. yes. and it's been getting worse year on year since 2010. and now it's a big incentive for people getting in these boats, knowing that they're going to get here. and their claim is not even going to be looked at potentially for years. and the people traffickers know this. they tell them this and it's a big driver. people coming here. so, you know, i'm afraid that rishi sunak can make these statements . and he goes in for these sort of gimmicky so—called solutions. but the only way you're going to deal with this is to get that backlog down, get the decisions made like we used to, and, you know, get people dealt with and stop spending £6 million every day on hotels for people. >> yeah. i mean , this headline >> yeah. i mean, this headline this this £4 billion spent on asylum is almost double what it was last year. i mean, you hope to get into office after the next election. you'll not have any money to spend on on sorting this crisis anyway. will you ? this crisis anyway. will you? >> well, you shouldn't be spending this much money. you shouldn't have let it get to this. but given that they have, you know, labour has put forward a plan for dealing with it and it involves dealing with it, you know, with things like the national crime agency having a specific unit dedicated , rated specific unit dedicated, rated to dealing with this and getting that backlog sorted out. you know, there's no it's indefensible. what's happened. and just recently, as part of the immigration bill, we tried to say to the government, look, you need a dedicated unit focussed on this crime time. you know, this is gangsters getting people across the channel you know, charging them thousands of pounds to get here, putting their lives in danger, and then they're stuck here in our system . um, you know, you need people who are good at dealing with criminals because that is what they are to, to focus on this. and the government didn't, you know, didn't go for that idea. i honestly don't know why because, you from our point of you know, from our point of view, that is the only way you're going to deal with this problem um, yeah. you're going to deal with this pro well, um, yeah. you're going to deal with this pro well, look, yeah. you're going to deal with this pro well, look, that. you're going to deal with this pro well, look, that sounds sensible. >> what? i can't get my head around and i'm talking just. just as a punter here, jenny, which is, you know, we've got a huge backlog and, and, and, you know, labour says, well, we'll sort that out. the government would have done that would have sorted out if it was that simple wouldn't know, stopping wouldn't it. you know, stopping the is not proving to be the boats is not proving to be simple. if it was, if it was dead easy, would have been dead easy, it would have been done, surely. so so. so why do you think you can do it when the government can't it? >> so nobody should be saying this is simple. i >> so nobody should be saying this is simple . i don't think this is simple. i don't think anybody should be saying that. the only people who've been saying that is the government because they've said, look back this or let's go for the this bill or let's go for the rwanda policy. that's the solution. well, guess what? it isn't because they're reaching for simple solutions to what is actually quite a complex problem . and the only way you deal with it is through the plan that we've put forward, which involves enforcing . it involves involves enforcing. it involves deaung involves enforcing. it involves dealing with the french, making sure that you've got proper arrangements there to prevent people coming in the first place. you've got the national crime agency with a specific focus on this and expertise together for in a single unit that can actually deal with this competently . that's what we want competently. that's what we want to see. and you've got to get the backlog down because as long as people think that as long as they can get here, they get a few years before anything will be decided about their case. that's a massive incentive. that's a massive incentive. that's what's driving people to take this horrific risk. if they knew that there , the decision knew that there, the decision would be made promptly and then action would be taken to return them or as is appropriate in each individual case, then we think that you would see numbers dwindling. you don't get that through this rwanda scheme, which the government is spending millions of pounds on because actually they just people don't believe in it. they they're not going to believe the british government over the people traffickers who are lying to them and exploiting them. and them and exploiting them. and the rwanda scheme is not going to work deterrent. what to work as a deterrent. what will work as a deterrent? it is getting down that backlog. so that get that that people don't get that amount of time in the uk amount of time here in the uk before a decision made. before a decision is made. >> okay , jenny chapman, we've >> okay, jenny chapman, we've got leave there, but got to leave it there, but really good to talk to you. thank you much indeed. thank you very much indeed. really appreciate it . putting a really appreciate it. putting a slightly because. yeah, slightly short because. yeah, because we've got andrew bowie on the line who is limited for time. he's minister for nuclear networks at the department for energy security at net zero, which is quite a mouthful as always, but it's good to see you. you much indeed you. thank you very much indeed . look, there's lots to . look, i know there's lots to talk you about, as we talk to you about, but as we were just talking to jenny chapman on about immigration action, i've got to ask you, i mean, the pm can say what he likes about bringing all this down to see the numbers up by 44. those people waiting, any sort of process . yes. when they sort of process. yes. when they get into this country, i mean , get into this country, i mean, thatis get into this country, i mean, that is absolutely shocking , that is absolutely shocking, isn't it? >> yeah. no it is. and we are determined to bring the asylum backlog down, which is the reason why the prime minister has made stopping the boats one of his top five priority is crossings across the channel are actually down 15% year on year, but that in no way detracts from the fact that we have got an asylum backlog. we need to tackle it and that's why we need to stop the boats, prevent people coming this country people coming into this country illegally. await hear illegally. we await to hear the judgement from the supreme court on our rwanda scheme. we very much hope that they will find in the favour because the government's favour because that believe will act as that we do believe will act as a deterrent for people to cross into illegally so we into the country illegally so we can tackle the vicious and pernicious trade in human life. we have got schemes and agreements with various third countries. for example , we've countries. for example, we've got an agreement with albania that has seen albanian migrants coming into country reduced coming into this country reduced by some 90. so we are taking action. and actually in comparison to what the labour party are proposing, they don't even seem to have any plan whatsoever. i was amazed to hear jenny chapman say that the deterrent would a resolving deterrent would be a resolving the asylum backlog. no, the deterrent will be rwanda deterrent will be the rwanda scheme putting people scheme will be putting people off this country off coming to this country illegally so that illegally to begin with so that we and deal with the we can get on and deal with the backlog. that's one of these government's top priorities and that's we're determined that's what we're determined to do. meanwhile, people from >> meanwhile, while people from the media are interview migrants making the journey across the channel making the journey across the channel, they say nothing will put them off. nothing doing. and meanwhile, our our asylum bill has doubled to 4 billion. i mean, this can't go on, can it? >> no, it can't go on. you're absolutely right. it can't go on.and absolutely right. it can't go on. and nobody's been clearer on this than the prime minister and the home secretary this is why we scheme to get we need the rwanda scheme to get up running. is we up and running. this is why we need to more with our french need to do more with our french counterparts channel counterparts across the channel to ensure that less people are getting those boats. that's getting on those boats. that's why to crack open the why we need to crack open the for the trade and human life which north which is going on from north africawe are talking partners that talking to partners in that region we and it's why region as we speak. and it's why we absolutely must stop the boats. prime minister boats. the prime minister determined to do determined we're going to do that. determined to support that. i'm determined to support him way i can to ensure him in any way i can to ensure we get under control, we get this under control, because situation cannot because the situation cannot continue is . continue as it is. >> problem is , mr bowie, >> but the problem is, mr bowie, that we keep saying and you keep saying, well, yes, we need to crack down on that. we need to stop the boats, need to get stop the boats, we need to get the scheme and the rwanda scheme up and running. but none of that is happening now. that might not running. but none of that is haprmight now. that might not running. but none of that is haprmight now. tithe night not that might not be the government's fault. there's all these other legal processes an

africa and one latin american country, brazil will now have two each, and countries from africa and from latin america well, in addition, there was not a single muslim country in the middle east in brix, now there will be three at once and saudi arabia iran and the united arab emirates as for south africay, then south africa of course, advocated the strengthening of the role of africa and in brix in particular, and in the world as a whole, and, south africa lobbied for, granting membership to the brix to another african country, and ethiopia was chosen, and the country was chosen, on the territory of which the headquarters of the main african organization of the african union is located, a country that represents a different african region compared to the republic of south africa, and therefore, it seems to me that this is the whole as a whole. uh, south africa supported this process. south africa defended the interests of africa within the framework of brix. uh, in general, there was a consensus at the summit about the need for expansion. it is very important. and , because on the eve of the summit, and in the west , ill-wishers wrote that, uh, there are too many contradictions inside brix, in general, too different countries. by the way, here is your point of view the absence of the

africa and middle east global research. that stands of johnson bank budget. welcome to accounting of the costs. why would the un describe south africa's unemployment problem as of taking time? was the economy? is the g cause the economy is the typically do produce unemployment? states that south africa has always had a structurally very high level of unemployment. if you look at the use unemployment, although with the latest release, those numbers have started to improve. it's still in the mix for his as a percentage. so given the likely weak growth profile of the economy, the problems up south africa has had with extensive power outages load shipping as it's known locally. the concern is that the economy typically just doesn't grow false, you know, to make a difference to employment. of course there was some pleasant surprises with the latest release, but it, oh tubs. the big worry is that this could leads to grace's social discontent of the time. i'm what do you, what a way to make of this these call? so this whole race quotes us for jobs, the employment equity act, is that going to do anything to solve the problem? oh, it's very difficult to look at south africa in installation. and so you know, the context of years and years, decades, in fact, of to live with marginalization of