midwin, do you think the government is overstepping here?ek the government is everystepping here. there is an issue that girls have to deal with when they model. when you look at a lot of these models now, they look ill. forget about being thin. they just look ill, they do not look healthy. i appreciate the government sort of taking a stand and stepping forth and letting people know that this image is not acceptable. girls are harming themselves in order to fit into this mold so that they can model and that's something that i'm glad this government is stepping in and saying, you know what? we're not going to stand for this. we are going to speak up. and we are going to protect our girls. i know that men also -- male models deal with this issue, too, but the pressure is more on girls to fit into this mold. and it's an impossible body image to maintain. >> susan? >> well my understanding of this proposed law is that they would be fining the models themselves, which seems to me to be blaming the victim here. there is a great deal of pressure fo

. >> midwin the police commissioner explained today he wants ton transparent, but he doesn't want toprosecution. listen to this. >> what you see us tap dancing on and balancing here is that if someone harmed freddie gray we're going to have to prosecute them and so giving too much information out to you on the front here now may jeopardize that prosecution. so we're trying to be as open and transparent as possible, but if somebody harmed him they have to be held accountable. >> so now the commissioner is openly talking about a prosecution if someone is found at fault. >> right. which is interesting, because as a police commissioner we haven't seen that from other cases that have occurred where they are actually even suggesting this before others do and i think that what it does is lets us know that this is being handled different. i think's been so many of these deaths throughout the country that i think that those who are in charge mayors, police commissioner s, elected officials are working within framework that people expect. tell us what it is you intend to do about this and in t

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joining me to talk about this request is criminal defense attorney midwin charles. here's the thing, he's almost 60 years old. it feels like it's been foreuv since he's been in there the standard he is not a danger to himself or others and that doctor, before the break, said if he's on meds, fine, if he lives next door to me. if he's not i don't want him next door to me. >> that standard is broad, isn't it? whether or not he poses a danger to himself or others. >> who's there to make sure he takes the meds. >> exactly. that's part of the question. now over time, each time he's sort of made this request for additional freedoms, a judge has granted it. all he's done is pretty much spend time with his parents. there's an argument that his attorneys can make that his parents will sort of be there to supervise and ensure he will take his medications. right now he has about 17 days per month that he's spending with his parents. >> and it's gone well. nobody has had any complaints. neighbors say everything has been quiet and fine. what about at victims here? granted presid

midwin charles was a defense attorney and also joining me is kendall coffey, a u.s. attorney.he nature of this, i want to get to the politics behind this. when you ask the jury to decide whether to go ahead with executing someone who is clearly eligible for execution because of the nature of the charges and the con convictions, 17 in this case, would that lead you to believe that the jury would convict him if it's 17 times to justify execution? >> well, i think this jury right now is ready to definitely send him to death row. it's going to be uphill for the defense but the defense is not even really begun to defend until now after the conviction. so they've got opportunities to try to humanize him and reduce his role and say that his older brother dominated his life. defense just needs one or two jurors to hold out. it's got to be unanimous for a death penalty and that one or two jury is what the defense is counting on. >> in your experience, how many juries sneak on and say they are not opposed to death penalty but they are. >> i think there are going to be some people on tha

i want to bring in midwin charles and jennifer wrent. we've seen this before.a stinker of a case to start with. your job as the defense attorney is to save the man's life and nothing else. is that what you're seeing here and do they have a shot? >> it's what they're doing and i think they're doing the best they can. defense attorneys are handed a case and they work with what they have. what they've done with him is try to humanize him. that's always what you do -- >> that's such a great point. but you have a young man sitting in this courtroom who has not shed a tear, has not winced once when the clothes and underwear of an 8-year-old boy, shredded, melted and covered in blood were shown to everyone and jurors could barely keep it together, many of them crying openly in court. and that young man has done nothing and he's expecting his lawyers to make him vulnerable and human. >> it's not so much about being vulnerable and human. i think it's the fact that the death penalty in federal cases is rarely effective. and we've seen over history that it's rarely grante

. >> i will talk to midwin for a time until you get to the location. why would somebody ask for medical help several times and then try to harm himself inside a police van? >> i am glad you pointed that out, carol. it doesn't make sense. we have videotape here and not only did he ask for assistance but we can see from the videotape this is somebody who is already in pain so why would he cause himself more pain when he gets inside the van, and i look forward to reading the report when they release it because what i want to know is before this happened what was the crime that freddy gray was suspected of committing. this police officer made eye contact with him and freddy started running, so was he a threat or suspected of committing a crime, and where was the probable cause in stopping him in the first place, and those are things that i will look forward to reading in that report. >> the other thing that is kind of confusing. the prisoner in the back of the police transport van, and he can't see freddy gray, and if we can put that video up of the police

>> midwin quick last word on that?of oden lloyd occurred so he is right, why would he do this risk a terrific career and money, and the fact they did not give a motive to work with is probably what they are struggling with? >> thank you both. >>> "the good stuff" is next. introducing new flonase allergy relief nasal spray. this changes everything. new flonase outperforms a leading allergy pill so you will inhale life. when we breathe in allergens our bodies react by over-producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance, flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. so roll down your windows, hug your pet dust off some memories, make new ones. new flonase. six is greather than one. this changes everything. ♪ >> good song. >> so two years ago today the boston marathon bombing, we all remember that april 15th. what is being done going forward? that's what makes this one the good stuff. the mayor ask everybody in the city simply do something nice for ever