to avert another shutdown, it's important to note the measurensions, most people use for illegal migrantson, how many order authorities are apprehending -- border authorities are apprehending, they have gone way down to historic lows. routinely more than one million every year. , it was around 500,000. we are about half of where we were. congress, new leaders. >> "washington journal" continues. host: this is molly o'toole. good morning. can you tell us where we are at currently when it comes to the negotiations over border security? aest: monday night, we had per luminary deal that emerge -- preliminary deal that emerged. $1.5 million for 55 miles of wall. there had been a major impasse over detention beds. democrats, it seems dropped their proposed cap on the number of people that immigration agencies can detain. dropped.was a lot of posturing in the last one he four hours or so. liberal democrats and the president's republican allies saying they cannot stomach this bill. once the language is hammered out, that's when we see the tensions emerge. host: what is the policy? guest: generally,

to avert another shutdown, it's important to note the measurensions, most people use for illegal migrantsonmany order authorities are apprehending -- border authorities are apprehending, they have gone way down to historic lows. routinely more than one million every year. , it was around 500,000. we are about half of where we were. that used to be the goal when officials would talk about border security or control of the border. those are the kinds of numbers they were aiming for. that's where we are at now. ofre are a record number significant rise in central american families and unaccompanied youth. many of them are presenting themselves for asylum. it is true that the immigration system has been strained by this shift in immigration. the $5.7 million for the wall wouldn't come anywhere close -- it is hard to say because what the president has said the wall is or what he wants has constantly shifted. when we look at the 1000 mile wall he often talked about during his campaign, there have been estimates that anywhere billion,million to $70 some even higher than that. wall5.7 million for t