finally he got mikael gorbachev. he was well educated. curse you, he wasn't educated.is guide, the colonel general, what are our defenses against this? he says, we don't have any. we can't do it. he said what do you mean? if the soviets decide on a first strike, they would not hit -- the first strike was going to hit everybody. reagan went back to berkeley where he had good connections for being governor, and he said that we have to get something going here. it could have worked. it terrified the russians and the soviets because they did not have the money to do that. this was an anonymously expensive proposition to set up all these huge space stations and satellite when they entered space. this was in the norma's tool that reagan had. every time they would have a meeting, he would say we need to do away with this number of missiles or that. but you have to do away with the star wars thing. he said, i'll give to you. once we get it finished, i'll give it to you so that nobody can shoot missiles at anyone else. they're not? >> no, they didn't want that. as a result, the