. >> nobody understands this more than mike agovino. his company, triton digital.ause you hear it on radio, itunes. if i download it on radio, on satellite. on itunes, there's a bunch of different fee structures, sway that? >> there's a bunch of different free structures that look at music. a.m./fm broadcast of music has been exempt from a performance royalty for decades and decades. satellite pay ace percentage of revenue royalty that's around 8% of their revenue, and then depending on the webcast, whether you're webcasting in broadcast mode or personalizing, it's different structures, again. so, the legislation you refer to, the proposed legislation that pandora and i would point out a bunch of broadcasters as well, are all supporting including our company triton digital, is really a community of publishers, coming together to suggest that standards needed. and -- >> the satellite -- >> the user is a user. >> satellite shouldn't be looked at different than a stream of a radio station, pandora, spotfy, a slacker of a song. this it point all forms. at this points i