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mike baker with us. mike is former cia covert operator. joins us now. do you know, if you were with the cia, you worked undercover, do you think or do you know whether or not we responded or retaliated in any way against these people who hacked us? >> well, yeah, i mean it would be naive to think we don't have our own offensives capabilities and efforts. that doesn't make what the russians or chinese or state-sponsored or individual hackers do okay. because their motivations and what they're after is different than the way that we act. but, at the same time, yes, i mean we're very good. in fact i would argue we're the best at the business. stuart: do you know this? i mean that is important. not just speculation? you know this, if we wanted to have a go at them via their computing systems we could do it? you know that? >> yeah. we have the best people in the business frankly, that's what i'm saying. without going into the weeds and talking about things we're not supposed to talk about, we better hope, and public should

officer and president of diligence llc, mike baker is with me. mike, does the new surveillance footage increase chances of suspect or suspects getting caught? >> absolutely. they got very lucky in terms of positioning of the cameras and picked up quite a number of images of this one particular individual. so i think they're very close. i won't be surprised to see them announce in fairly new future they have identified at least one suspect from the cctv footage. deirdre: mike, as someone who worked on covert operations i mean does video like this, does it help investigations? does it hurt? is it a little bit of both? >> no, no. it does nothing but help, frankly. look back to the boston marathon bombing. and the work, now incredibly labor intensive, to gather up the available footage. you hope that it is labor intensive. that tells you have a lot of material to work with. going through that material. identifying potential suspects. putting that together. getting out on the street and tracking down those suspects, a

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former cia operative mike baker says absolutely. first, the deal itself that we knew of really seemed extraordinarily flimsy. and then the secret side deals certainly raised a red flag. now this has to have put something of a nail in its coffin or at least have some of these people on d.c. thinking this is crazy! >> well, you would like to think so. i suspect that will happen is on the politics side from the democratic senators who have come out against the deal, i think that's just k abu k irk theater. they know they're safe. they know the deal's going to pass. and so they can afford to vote no and please their constituents and worry about their next election. so i don't think this is going to get stopped. i would like to see it thrown back on the president's desk in the sense that he would have to veto any disapproval so that it's his. he owns it finally. he has to take responsibility for it all by himself, basically, because it's supposedly his great deal. but the problem with this, the side deals that we're talking about, the rea

mike baker, as always.s very much for joining us. >> sure, thank you. >>> now, soon after the deadly shooting, two democrat presidential candidates tweeting two very different messages. twg two very different messages. first, former maryland governor martin o'malley tweeting this "senseless, awful, my thoughts are with the entire wdbj 7 family." then hillary clinton tweeted this "heartbroken and angry. we must act to stop gun violence, and we cannot wait any longer. praying for the victim's families in virginia "ings je" weinstein saying too soon to turn this into a political message. should it have ever been done at all? >> i think martin o'malley's tweet was entirely appropriate. what hillary clinton tweeted she couldn't know at the time, everything she possibly proposed to stop gun violence would have stopped this tragedy in virginia. i think to politicize something from the very beginning without even knowing whether the policies you proposed would have stopped it was just out of bounds. i think at this

mike baker, welcome back. >> thank you very much. >> much. >> you don't like drones. >> how about thatess that is the end of the segment. i do like drones, but were talking about different things here. not armed drones. unholy in favor. commercial flights. america's pilot sweetheart so he says it, then we should believe him. he is absolutely right. they are very concerned about this. >> of those unmanned beasts can go of thousands and thousands of feet they could interfere with the flight path but my worry is they're getting so alarmist. pesticides, fires, mapping, photography. my worry is that the over worry is going to kill some of those blossom industries. we are not talking about the commercial operators who are out they're mapping or plotting the next stage of fighting a wildfire for all those good things the drones are used for. and they still have the ability. shoot up the 5060-pound drone thousands of feet in the air. that is a problem and what they are talking about about regulating, not the numerous uses of commercial drones but all those drones and they are very commercially

former cia operative mike baker. mike, i don't know.al and it's passed, can you just undo it that quickly? >> no, is the short answer to that. i love that question. you hear it every election cycle. on day one, what are you going to do? you know what? i win the presidency, i'm going to check out the wet bar, i'm going to use the bowling alley -- [laughter] maybe bounce on the beds in the various bedrooms. that's what i'm doing on day one. i don't buy this idea that i'm going to get everything done on day one. but here's the problem, yes, there's a great deal of displeasure with the current deal as it stands. i would like to think that congress will, in fact, you know, knock it down. and, of course, the president will veto that. but at least he has to stand on -- neil: yeah, but if this goes through, mike, and we've got a bit of a delay, i apologize, but if this goes through as it's expected, unless they can override a veto which they don't appear to have the votes for, then it's 18 months that we're into this deal, and presumably one of

mike baker, 8 p.m.:00 pacific on the fox business network. >> today's teens much like carly ray jeep son have one thing to say, call me never. according to a research center , today's teenager prees fer to communicate -- prefer to communicate via text and only talk on the phone with the closest of friends. they said talking to a new friend on the phone is, quote, weird, awkward and like so becky. matt, are the teens right? >> i think i must be a teen. i totally believe in what the great movie about momento taught us which is never answer the phone. it is always a bad idea. >> it is true. >> don't do it. it can't be good news. it is awkward and puts you on the spot. text maybe. >> does anyone answer the phone anymore? i don't think they do. >> i screen heavily. although -- you know it is for different reasons, i just don't have time. when you pick up the phone you have tracked yourself. i don't have time to be trapped. i have a little window of time to do anything. if it is important, you may get a three

after a police lobbying group and sources tell me mike baker's diligence got involved it was amended to let them arm drones with less than lethal weaponry such as teargas, tasers and rubber bullets. he signed it into law even though he says drones should not be weaponized, period. should the cops have armed drones? >> i think in a situation like this it is not huge ammunition. i mean, why not? this is for police protection. we will see a lot more drones in the sky anyway. >> why not just give them weapons? >> why not have -- listen, if you will use drones you will use it to protect people. if you will have them flying over you and get into places where -- i mean think about it. if we had a drone during the boston bombing, right? the guy hiding out in that -- was it a canoe in the backyard? did they use an aspect of drones? if that drone was available and we could shoot rubber bullets up into the sky and use teargas we could have found them quicker. >> even with hostage situations. if you can get a drone to do something -- and again i am not up on my technology, but to do something th

. >> attorney mike says that baker did not break the law but rebecca says, in fact, that he did.ca, how did he break the law if he was -- for his belief in a religious principle is where it drives him, why would he be breaking the law? >> colorado law says that when you sell goods to the public, you can't discriminate on who you sell to based on among other things sexual orientation if you're selling cake tots public you won't sell to certain people and others because you don't like people because of their sexual orientation that is what the colorado court of appeals found here. >> whatever happened to the idea that constitutional right to, you know, to follow our religion? i guess that no longer applies? >> well, i mean, i completely agree. you know, this is a baker who doesn't make halloween cake and doesn't make halloween cookies, i think that's weird. i think it is kind of dumb. but i like halloween. but i guess if his deeply held religious belief is that strong, that this is the kind of thing he's not interested in doing, then yeah. i think that's a problem. >> here's the th

right now, meg baker is in for alex. >>> all right. mike is live in chopper 2 over the george washington bridge. >> all right. help has finally arrived. the right lane is blocked off. the four-way flashers on the vehicle. behind the vehicle, a tow truck has arrived on-the-scene and may push it across the bridge. if you are headed to the george, upper level a much better ride for you. delays are heavy. >> parking is in effect alternate sides in effect city iar. >> meg. >>> yesterday morning another drove site -- drone sighting at jfk airport. >> the location, please? >> on friday afternoon, the federal aviation administration said delta and jetblue pilots reported sighting a drone. the f.a.a. police are investigating. >>> jersey city police officer is in critical condition this morning after a chain reaction crash that injured a dozen people. police are saying it was caused bay a driver speeding. the police are live in jersey city with more. cbs 2news' janelle burrell is live with more. >> reporter: police officers across the state of new je