mike baker is on the show. our panel provides hope, but first a fuse break. but first, a news break. >> live from america's news headquarters, i'm will carr. another busy day is in store for pope francis on thursday. all e capitol hill as the pontif addresses congress. no one knows exactly what he will talk about, but he has addressed the environment, cuba and immigration. >> as the son of an immigrant family, i am happy to be a guest this this country which was largely built by such families. >> [applause]. >> later in the day he will travel to new york city. a federal court rejecting the latest appeal from the kentucky court clerk twho doesn't want to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. kim davis wants to be allowed to retuesday to issue the licenses. she spent five days in jail for con cement of -- contempt of court. the ceo of volkswagen is stepping down. he bears responsibility for the scandal, but says he personally did nothing wrong. it wiped out billions in the value. owners are voicing their frustration. they say they bought their cars for c

handsome as ever and so is mike baker, like a male model contest of smart people. and covert of operations and i don't even know what that is, and andy, he with the dreamy blue eyes and the song in his heart, welcome to all. >> hi, there. lisa: i'm not a girthist. [laughter] by any step of imagination, we'll get to that. andy, i want to start with you. how is hillary's candidacy like the "fantastic four"? >> they keep rebooting them and they're always bad. every four years you get a "fantastic four" every four years or eight years you get a hillary campaign and they're bad. this is -- we've reached the level of parody now that there will be efforts. i assume on her schedule it says 2:50 to 3:00 p.m. be spontaneous. lisa: organize spontaneous. >> that's right. why doesn't she try to be honest? i'm just throwing it out there. taking a shot in the dark her. lisa: wow that's taking a shot where it counts. >> yeah. i don't think her problem is that americans don't know who she is. lisa: no, they know quite well. >> yeah. that's the problem. lisa: well, here's the thing

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someone who is cia covert operations officer in the past, mike baker and money manager, mark luschiniwelcome to you both. >> thank you. deirdre: mike, from a national security standpoint, looks like president obama has pushed this through. what is your take? >> well it is a bad deal. it was a poorly handled negotiation. the white house is doing what they do with a lot of things. they're basically in their own smug way, telling rest of us to get over it. just move on. get over it. get over benghazi. get over the irs abuse. get over this. let's just move on. you have nothing to complain about. look, the idea that this was either a negotiation and, we go with this deal, or it's a war is always been ridiculous. another alternative would be a tougher negotiating position. but if anybody actually still believes that the iranians are going to, regime is going to abide by this, they're either naive or they're incredibly partisan or they're ignorant of past performance. deirdre: iran's supreme religious leader saying today, israel will not exist in 25 years anyway which was timing obviously pe

coming up tomorrow on the next "red eye," liz mcdonald, sean donnelly and a special appearance by mike baker my day coffee was praised for keeping the working man alert and diligent. it saved lives. now the decaffeinated beverage is being villa fight as people are over dosing on caffeine. a story is calling it a coffee crisis. but then it cites the dangers of potent energy drinks and powders and gum. all which carry higher numbers of caffeine and health risks than a cup of joe. with some products being as much as two dozen cups of coffee. we should all be drinking coffee because it is physically impossible to die from it i know. i am still here. doctor, you are a coffee drinker. >> big time. >> coffee achiever? >> yes. >> i think these people villifying coffee. >> if you drink too much coffee it is on you. if you eat too much gum with caffeine stop eating the gum. i don't know why people are blaming others. >> and they are blaming coffee which no one is having a problem with coffee. people love it. it makes their day great. they are drinking the red bulls and then taking the caffeine powder.

. >> this is mike baker. >> this is where i have my coffee so i will just enjoy it. >> i will be withld do -- i think congratulationses are in order. the regime in concert with obama and secretary kerry and the senate democrats and the effectless leaders of five other nations have insured that the kudz force can finally get what they were jonessing for -- jon jonesing for which is a nuclear bomb. >> is that it? >> it is an earlier version. >> you can see -- the danger here is that you can see how easy it is to hide. that's why the process is so important. >> let's get into this. we are anxious to see what the accuracy looks like. tonight -- and this is a pie chart that says how many correct andsom my correct statements are in the show. joanne who was really pissed off at me last time because i didn't realize they would be on the show. she is doing well. >> i made the chart. >> i guess what we can take from this frankly is that first of all you should never turn your back to the camera like this. second of all it is an equal showing. >> that is very small. i don't like that. >> we can

mike baker on that. what we do right now.especially in middle of this mike. what happens? it is. important to talk about middle east anything related to foreign policy, nothing happens in a bubble. everything is connected. if you consider that, consider about eight short weeks ago general soleimani, iranian head of revolutionary guard traveled to moscow. beyond the fact he is sanction and wasn't supposed to be traveling an moscow said he wasn't here. no, he was. general soleimani's key responsibilities are military support of assad in syria. you fast forward just a short few weeks and magically, russia is deploying troops and military hardware in a fairly significant manner to a airbase in the western side of syria where assad basically has his control. he doesn't control much outside the western portion of syria. things don't happen coincidentally. neil: what are we doing? we still have talks and sanctions on russians since the ukraine moves and other moves. i could imagine he is just bartering for those sanctions, right? >>

spokesman of united nations and fox news contributor and mike baker, former cia agent, this is our panel for the pope and we were just talking, mike, about the security nightmare that this must present my goodness there's the pope out in the open, clearly there's a lot of security there on the ground. what do you make of this? >> well, they do this all the time, the vatican security travels with the pope and the vatican security is unusual in that throughout their travels around the world, they have a great deal of say in the security protocols and procedures on the ground and the host country, which is -- again, unusual. so they work very closely with the secret service but you're right. at the end of the day this is one of those things you always worry about, whether it's the pope or the president or anybody else, they want that access to the public. and more so obviously with the pope. and all you can do is, you know, rehearse, practice, consider every possible bad plan and go forward. >> mike is dressed in cog in it owe,. >> i just got off the horse. >> i'm sure you did. and it can b

we're asking a former cia covert op, officer mike baker, just exactly what they're doing.k us through how a city like new york is preparing for such a monumental event that we're seeing here today? >> right, and it is monumental, it's the toughest, the tightest, the most coordinated security effort they think the city's made ever frankly. and new york city is very used to this obviously. the u.n. general assembly, high-profile events that come through new york city constantly. the local, state and federal authorities are used to conducting high security operations in this environment, but again, when you put the pope in there, it creates an unprecedented profile and series of logistical issues for those authorities. so part of the problem is as always with something like this is the principal, meaning the pope, the principal's desire to be among the people. he wants to get out there. he wants to meet the kids, meet the people. and that creates an enormous problem. trish: you guys are saying no, no, no, don't go out there, and by the way that popemobile needstor safer. talk

mike baker says that alone is reason enough to take with a grain of salt any of the commitments to peace, what do you make of this showcasing? >> first of all, congratulations on break the news that some of their troops sit down. neil: yes, anything i can do. >> that's confounded the intel community for years. this is an interesting thing, but what we have to look at is the top line and get into the weeds a little bit. particularly the naval buildup, and there's been recent things that you mentioned, 12,000 troops, all the latest sophisticated military hardware. 30 some odd world leaders attended this big parade in beijing to celebrate the end of world war ii. at the same time, up in alaska, five chinese naval ships sailed remaining in international waters but sailed about 12 nautical miles off the coast of alaska as they made their way through the aleutian islands, that was after joining russia for a large military exercise at the end of august. what all this means is, look, the chinese have for generations, decades now have resented what they view as u.s. encroachment in the territoria

former covert cia officer mike baker is with us.ve the racers is to check them out, so keep them out? >> at not realistic, but with senator sessions is trying to point out once again the white house is in reactive mode. they make decisions based on emotion and the way it will be perceived by the world and pressure from europe as opposed to singing with got to do our part and figure out how to help the people coming out of war-torn areas as opposed to economic immigrants. let's work with congress and figure out how to observe individuals. it shows the overall cost of the effort. stuart: if 100,000 people and they're some kind of terror instant emily to some of those people is enormous risk. i am surprised the administration doesn't see that rest quite frankly. and to downplay the humanitarian problem overrides security problem. that's the calculation is made. >> for now. we are tracking behind europe. the immediate response is we have to do something to help. shortly after receipt germany and hungary another site now. we can't do thi

what you can walk w i look at the map yesterday afternoon from the secret service, and katie baker says tell mike he can do there is i can do this walk. i can do this, go mike, that's actually katie standing in front of the building yet. >> so is she walking with you then? >> kathy, meet me at campbell's field in camden. we will go together. we will go from campbell's field, baseball stadium there, walk across the bridge, then walk, this is what i will do. get a picture of this? if you want to meet me along the walkway. so i look at the secret service map, so whether i come up the bridge, this is horrible map, there is the benny over there. >> in is your drawing? >> i go up seventh street, northbound to callowhill, then take the left, then go to broad street, then take broad up to spring garden, walk over to 20th street, walk over to the parkway. that's one of the paths secret service put out. >> map where we can walk and where we can go, only certain things you can bring with you. >> i was going to take a bunch of balloons. can't take balloons. >> no balloons. >> why would you take balloons? >>

mike, very much. here to make some sense of this, attorney lisa. lisa, it sounds to me like if you're a bakeru own a pizza shop, that's one thing. but if you are a county or city clerk and part of your job is to issue marriage licenses regardless of your personal views, that's a government job and the supreme court has ruled, whether you agree or disagree on a persona part of your job is to issue licenses to gays should they wish them. where am i wrong? >> you're not wrong. chev is obviously wrong she had stay and the stay expired so she is violating the law. she has been told she must issue the licenses and she is an official. she did take an out to uphold the -- >> wouldn't be like you, somebody has a personal view. she is a government worker and the supreme court ruled this and i know people have strong personal views. here's what's want to ask you, though. where does that legal run-around go? if her underlings want to approve, or deputies, gay marriages, and she is a superior but woken write off, do they cant. >> they count, the deputy clerk has all the authority the chief clerk has. they

smarter -- make me smarter and at 1:00 p.m., we will be paying attention to the baker recount and that could move the oil markets. mikesting because the rig count went down and went back up again. oil am i right that most prices are we done by the media? mike: yeah. tom: anyway, information you need to know. what is moving this morning, david has an interesting mover. david: let's set with blackberry. we have the company reporting a wider second-quarter loss than expected. the company has been trying to reinvent itself more times than i can count. you have the ceo now talking about developing a new smartphones based on the android operating system, so we are seeing blackberry down .35, about 5% in the premarket. tom, did you ever use a blackberry? i used one for a while and the reason everybody is switched. what is the blackberry ecosystem? david: i think they're trying to develop that. tom: you mentioned earlier that this chip in the new phone. engineering, no different than a car in that sense. like the popembiobile. ared: the next two i picked paid to the speech janet yellen gave. let's start with the euro stoxx 60

bakers. we should have accommodations to people so we can solve the problem in the right way. this should be solved at the local level, so we do agree, mike i was -- >> governor, you said quote, she is sworn to uphold the law. >> she is and so if she, based on conscience can't sign that marriage license, then there should be someone in her office to be able to do it and if the law needs changed in the state of kentucky which is what she's advocating, it should be changed. >> let me go to dana bash with a question. >> governor kasich, senator cruz is committed from stripping funds from planned parenthood it could result in shutting down the federal government in just about two weeks. do you agree with senator cruz' tactic. >> we should defund planned parenthood. in my state, we're trying to figure out how to get it done because we are threatened with the federal government taking all of our medicaid money away. i think there is a way to get this done by giving governors the ability to be able to act to defund planned parenthood but it comes to closing down the federal government. you have to be very careful about that. when we shut the gov

mike baker is on the show. our panel provides hope, but first a fuse break.st, a news break. >> live from america's news headquarters, i'm will carr. another busy day is in store for pope francis on thursday. all e capitol hill as the pontif addresses congress. no one knows exactly