here is mike baker, former cia officer. mike, thanks for joining us.this report? >> thank you. god story bid we should up -- god forbid we should upset russia, right? president trump has been slammed for that being too pals with them. this is interesting story. normal news cycle this would be top of time and right up front. melissa: we will have never a normal news cycle again, my friend. go ahead, story. >> no, absolutely true. but i think, what we're looking at here is a couple of things. one, it is very interesting that nobody from the former administration, from the obama administration is pushing back on the report that they had intelligence back in 2013, 2014, showing an increase in russian covert propaganda, disinformation, cyber meddling, whatever you want to call it. they're not pushing back on that. and they can't. it would be ridiculous for them to do. what they're saying is, what they're arguing, is that well, we were very proactive. we did everything that we could. we took it very seriously. that just doesn't appear to be the case. now, th

we need you, mike baker is here. he is a former white house republican congressional staffe staffer, former intern for david letterman. currently the host of the chris stigall show on 1210 in philly. specializes in analyzing the state of politics and comedy. chris stigall is here. i appreciate the three-piece suit. >> chris: after this, i go to my job at wells fargo. i'm just happy i'm wearing pant pants. >> eboni: thanks for classing it up. your specialty, it's a perfect day. a lot of people across the country to be not sure what to feel, what to believe, how serious is it? is north korea actually nuclear? >> mike: mark is right when he talks about the fact that restrained talk, diplomatic language, and appeasement policy of the past, almost 25 years, got us to to this point. this point being where north korea has realized its ambitions of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. we have that going for us. >> eboni: from my collars on my radio show, rex tillerson kind of pushback, saying maybe north korea is not nucl

mike baker is with us this morning, lucky the you to talk about this.oughts. >> i like -- i'm sort of a discipline guy, and i think discipline in messaging, consistency in messaging particularly as things start the rise and get spun up in terms of the tension. so i'm, i would like to think that the messaging now as we are looking at our options and getting to a really delicate point in discussions with china and others that the messaging is more constrained and is more coordinated within the white house. i don't know, i doubt that the president sits and coordinates his tweet withs. i don't think anybody actually believes that he does. so, you know, is it helpful or does it hurt the situation? well, in reality we've got bigger issues to worry about like gaming out the various scenarios, how do we enforce the sanctions, how do we work with the chinese. i'm not inclined to think those sorts of messages assist the effort. i understand why he's doing it, a lot of people appreciate it because as he said, you want to stand up and look strong, i get that. measu

for more, let's bring in former cia officer mike baker joining us from boise, idaho.rom washington, robin simcox, at the heritage foundation. we talked about this earlier, but even if you know, even if the cia warns you that, this is coming. and today specifically talked about las ramblas and said it was coming. very difficult to defend against. >> well, it is. and they put out a variety of assessments and analysis. and and a somewhat general warns on a fairly regular basis. so the fact that they specifically cite las ramblas which is a very heavy tourist area which is similar to nice, westminster bridge in london, does not mean there are specific operational leads or intelligence i would say, okay, now you have a name to go on. a date or a methodology to go on. to be fair, you know, a number of government acted on the various warnings. it was not just citing meese, the british intelligence, they had been warning or advising british travelers of the potential for the attack in spain. so this is, these things happen on a constant basis. sometimes they are made public,

former cia operative, mike baker with us, also back with us will ripley and barbara starr. to mike. this is something that is a very technically detailed plan. four missiles they're threatening. the appropriate response, in your mind, from the administration is? >> well, i mean, we have to operate on several levels. it's not we have to do this or we have to do that. and by that i mean, look, we've already had a fairly successful effort in the u.n. so we had 15 to 0 on the u.s. drafted resolution. now we have to implement those sanctions. and then we also have to monitor. if china tries to circumvent the sanctions as they have in the past, we need to be aggressive in calling them out. so we have to do that. we also have to work simultaneously at the same time off the radar screen. it's not going to be some public display, with the chinese authorities to aggressively explain and work with them so they understand that this is one of those rare moments where their interests align with ours. and to work with and to understand that this can either happen in a very bad way -- and nobody wa

for more, let's bring in former cia officer mike baker joining us from boise, idaho.ington, robin simcox, at the heritage foundation. we talked about this earlier, but even if you know, even if the cia warns you that, this is coming. and today specifically talked about las ramblas and said it was coming. very difficult to defend against. >> well, it is. and they put out a variety of assessments and analysis. and and a somewhat general warns on a fairly regular basis. so the fact that they specifically cite las ramblas which is a very heavy tourist area which is similar to nice, westminster bridge in london, does not mean there are specific operational leads or intelligence i would say, okay, now you have a name to go on. a date or a methodology to go on. to be fair, you know, a number of government acted on the various warnings. it was not just citing meese, the british intelligence, they had been warning or advising british travelers of the potential for the attack in spain. so this is, these things happen on a constant basis. sometimes they are made public, sometime

mike baker is here. welcome back. so, what would a 1950s era cia do about maduro?t a hypothetical question at all. it's on our doorstep and it's a serious issue. it gets overshadows because of what's going on in the world and what's going on in the white house. but this is a disaster on our doorstep. you use the term dictatorship. but maduro is continuing what chavez was working his way toward. is it worse? he's worse in the sense we had now the degrading of that country during the chavez period of time. this is the ultimate result of a grand socialist experiment. maduro is driving the bus and the wheels are falling off after years of treating the citizens like dirt. trampling on democracy and civil rights. so this is the sort of thing we look the it from up here and we have a hard time processing it. we have no understanding of the chaos and disaster going on. my company has been working in venezuela for a number of years and we have been watching this place fall apart over a period of time. it descend into further chaos. over 100 people have been killed since apr

mike baker is here to talk with us. senior fellow athlon bee at -- at london policy research.el, i start with you. we got news from paris, that there was really awful attempt to now down soldier -- mow down soldiers in central paris proper. is this the kind of thing that we g got our eye off of the ball because of north korea. >> no, we can multitask, they are separate levels of government and law enforcement community. i am not concerned that the rightful focus of north korea is going to causes thank you lose track of war on terror that we're engaged in. we're still battling isis, still dealing with al qaeda realm confidents. gerri: it is a lot. >> it is a lot, jesse, how do we handle both of those at the same time. paris is not in auerbach -- our backyard, not like it is omaha, but we have to be alert. and also belgium, frightening headlines this morning. less concerning, but you know, a steady drum beat now, how do we stay focused. >> we have over 50 thousand troops in japan and south korea right now, they are ready to take action. most well rehearsed, precised, and discipl

they have been prevented, and the president of the llc, global intelligence and security firm, mike baker, thanks for coming on. people are going to gather no matter what you do. could this have been prevented? >> analysis shared between the cia and liaison parties, the warnings about spain and the cambrils area. they are fairly general, operational leads and income, and the impression the cia, to a vehicle, the following potential individuals, general concern, general warnings, lots bits and pieces of intel coming in and making your best estimate where a problem could be and the warning was in a sense saying likely areas, the promenade in nice, 86 people killed last year. these warnings tends to fly back and forth between intel services, could it have been prevented? there were not sufficient operational leads at the time and the only way you would have prevented this, family members in particular, see something or heard something, whatever the motivation is, they advise them there may be a problem. >> there is news that follows that these suspects were on the radar somewhere somehow. th

chris ta -- chris tall bawl makr debut on the show, mike baker, and happy birthday to reason.com editor robbie saoee. ve. >> something i respect about him. like you said, he believes what he's saying. he's not trying to sell you on some policy he's not committed to. i think young people like that about him. kennedy: it seems free. but further down the road when you have to pay for big programs like that, they will be the ones footing the bill. and we are so deeply in debt i fear for future generations if we pass medicare for all. >> god bless bernie, and i do respect him for his consistency. but at the same time, i am actually hoping with all my heart that he pushes this plan, he pushes the single payer plan, and ties the democrats to it as some sort of challenge. saying how are you going to stand on this. where are you on this measure. kennedy: a litmus test. >> i'm a small government republican. stay out of your kitchen and fiscal responsibility. there is limited government role in a lot of things. city was in the drug wars and i have seen a lot of weird things. but here is the point.

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that's mike baker. it will be a barn-burner, as they say.etaphorically, we're not going to burn an actual barn. >> no. we were talking about that there is no bench for the democrats, but there is hope. in kansas, theres a fresh face running for governor. he's 16 years old. apparently in kansas there are laws that -- that's jack ferguson and his running mate is alexander klein. they're 16 and 17 years old. they're democrats. and under the rules they are allowed to run and so the national governor's association said, a-okay. democrats ought to get behind the kids. >> good for them. get in the arena. jesse? >> those kids will be on "watters world" next saturday night, but this saturday night, we have this guy. >> she's the hot sauce on my ribs. [laughter] she's the bacon grease in my collard greens. she's the fuse that sets off dynamite! >> that's jimmy walker from "good times." he's a trump supporter now. >> was that a clip from your interview when he's talking about ann coulter? >> no. [laughter] we also have professional cuddlers, who are cu

special forces, and mike baker of diligence, llc. it seems like you have to put the guy on notice.new administration and new president. >> what else would you expect the chinese to say? the fire and fury talk, it's the least of our problems, the verbiage coming from the president it has more impact on the chinese authorities than it does on the north koreans. and perhaps that was intended. where i fallr fall down on -- where i fall down on this, we are at this point because of 25 years of measured talk and diplomatic language and the carrot and stick, and they achieved their goals. the fact there are some people spun up about the language. bill clinton said essentially the same thing but without the same flourish. his point was the north korean regime uses nuclear weapons, then that would be the end of north korea. so there is no difference except the verbal flourish. trish: jim, this is almost sort of a red line type of thing. north korea has been put on notice. so if they decide to proceed with doing some bad stuff to guam, where does that leave us? what are we left with? >> i ha

. >>> former cia analyst and mike baker, co-founder of diligence, llc. ican killed, that is the breaking news today. how will that shape the u.s. involvement in this investigation? >> well, the u.s. services always offer their assistance for, you know, post attack reviews and investigations. so, that's going to continue. obviously, you know, there's more of a personal issue here now that there's a u.s. citizen involved. typically, the eu countries, they rely on the cia, nsa, fbi. they are stretched thin as the fbi is stretched thin in the u.s. carrying out investigations into potential issues and prospects. they are very keen, typically, to accept assistance from the u.s. >> the victims now from all over the world. it shows the nature of who this attack was directed at. in some ways, the entire civilized world. we are learning about the size of the terrorist operation. there was a house where there was an explosion the night before, ten, maybe 12 suspected terrorists involved. many now dead. what does this tell you? >> well, when the reports first came ou

joining me now is former cia officer and president of diligence llc, mike baker. welcome back.e wants nuclear war, but is there a way of denuclearizing north korea without military action? >> people who want war least are those who understand it best and have experience tonight. the military generals, despite what some folks might think, are the last people to want to engage in combat and war because they have an understanding of how horrific it is. the fact that general dunn forward, the joint chiefs of staff is in south korea and is going to sit down with japan. the things hing saying today are now now, they were true a year ago and five years ago. the military is always in a state of potential readiness. but on top of that, they always prefer a peaceful diplomatic solution. so he's right in saying we are working side by side with wreks tillerson and everyone else in the diplomatic community to try to resolve this. kennedy: hr mcmaster said we aren't closer to war than we were a week ago but we are closer than we were a decade ago. >> that's north korea's own doing. they cont

leave lowe we sure do, for more on this let's go to mike baker, former cia officer and president of diligentgence and security forum, mike, i want to go to you on your background with cia, there are report that is the cia actually warned of a possible attack, what kind of warning would the cia put forward and could this have been prevented from such a warning? >> well, typically these things are not specific. people might imagine, well, there's a warning and gave a specific date or individuals or methodology, actionable intelligence said spanish authorities could act on, that's usually not the case, usually it's more of an assessment, analysis of all the bits and pieces of intel that come in from a variety of sources, human intelligence and liaison partners and these warnings, the assessments, the sharing of concerns and analysis, it goes on all of the time. so, you know, people shouldn't be under the impression that, you know, somehow two months ago or cia gave them a report that said, the point of the attack in the near future and the individuals might be responsible for it. it tends to be

i want to bring in paul violsa within mike baker. you say this well planned. >> no question about that. they are using vehicles as a weapon of mass destruction. it's not like they are trying to buyers that would send regular flags out to alert law enforcement. they are simply renting a vehicle. they are look at certain areas that they know populate to a certain amount of tourists at a certain time of day. gerri: michael, what stops me from going out and renting a car and doing the same damn thing. sorry, didn't mean to say that on tv. the threshold for having some kind of intelligence. you need a credit card. that's all you need. >> think is where it' been moving to for quite some time. this last summer, think about the attacks we have had between nice and stockholm. this happens in other areas as well. terrorist operations when they become wise to our communications intercepts capability. we cup those down to these handwritten note. they are doing the same thing with resources. and the concept of stay where you are. now it's stay wh

. >> elizabeth: and mike baker was saying before and fox business that it got a 15-0 vote under president obama, he would have gotten another nobel peace prize. with russia and china on board with this, it's really striking. president trump inherited a mess, it was kick the can down the road would have the president's policies to north korea and now there's not much road left. the issue, had he got china to step up, china doesn't like that antimissile symptom to make that's a way to get china on board. >> harris: it's more than just a statement that came out criticizing north korea, telling them to step back. you're saying china has to do even more. >> elizabeth: yes, and to knock off a third of north korea's exports, a billion dollars worth is a big deal. next step would be to go after oil. oil imports into north korea. >> harris: interesting. jessica? >> jessica: i agree with what's been said here. nikki haley and president trump are the real rock stars of this. it's amazing what she's done there. >> harris: how is she been a game changer? >> jessica: she's been allowed to be the sole a

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now for more analysis of the north korea situation we have former cia covert operations officer mike baker and lieutenant colonel tony shaffer. good to have you both here on obviously very important day, very important time. colonel shaffer when the president talks about all military options being on the table, when he says if they are to proceed forward in guam as they have threatened to do, that they will see something from the united states the likes of which no one has seen before. what does he mean? >> well look, we've got war plans. the current one is 5015 which is consolidation from several others. i know from talking to senior members of the pentagon, that has been relooked, reinforced, the elements to support it are ready to go. we have lesser capabilities which are available. there is number of cyber options. there is special operations, what we you call shaping operations. these are all available as well. and as general mattis just said, the use of war would be catastrophic but the one point that the pentagon is trying to make as well as others the catastrophe starts with un, wi

let's bring in mike baker and the cofounder of diligence, a global intelligence security firm, thanks for being here. to start things off, the sanctions bill has been signed, this is something that had tremendous support on both sides of the political aisle. will these inventions make a difference, are they the right move? >> well, that's a complex question and it's the right one to ask. the answer is, this is partly my opinion, our past history with sanctions regimes, whether it's against russia or iran or north korea, the sanctions don't tend to really change the country's behavior. it doesn't get the positive impact that we want. it tends to be more politically expedient, and makes us feel good and you look at this latest round of sanctions against russia and you know there's a vast political element to it because in the first place, the sanctions bill was designed for iran and north korea and on the kind of slammed in russia sanctions and as a result, the climate that we are living in right now, and also, our european allies have a vast range of disagreements and concerns over the

north korea, want to bring in mike baker, cofounder of diligence llc. think the north korea situation comes down to this. are we america going to shoot down the next missile that they launch? >> yeah, you could argue very strongly that we don't have anything else that military options at this point. the u.s. drafted resolution that was passed 15-0. that means china back day. you're not seeing a lot of talk in the media. one thing i would say at the outset of this at the previous administration had drafted and had a resolution passed in the u.n. with the backing of china, president obama would've received another nobel peace prize. nobody's been talking about this. this is important. it's a win for president trump. no doubt about it. a very strong move and it's important in terms of what china is signaling. now the problem is if we are at the stage for china itself can't manage north korea, which is what we base all the years upon, the idea that they would keep family name, we've got a real problem and not very come to this issue is do we have any option

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have a great weekend, everybody, thanks for being here, dagen mcdowell, kevin kelly, mike baker, i will see you sunday on sunday morning futures. have a good one. varney & company begins right now. stuart: on north korea's policy is clear, show them we can take them, convince them and we will do it, that's the state of play this friday, good morning, everyone. president trump is not backing down, oh, not, not one bit. he set himself apart from previous presidents and he's made it personal, watch this. >> he has disrespected our country grateful and said things that are horrific. he got away with it for a long time between him and his family. it's a whole new ball game. and he's not going to be saying those things and he's certainly not going to be doing those things. stuart: with me, he's not going to get away with it. he says kim jong un should be very, very nervous, china state media says this, if north korea shoots first, china stays out, if america starts it and tries regime change, china steps in. face to face standoff and that's what investors have to live with as the weekend appr

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here to reflect on this yet another attack in a major western city is former cia operative mike bakeron chief daniel hoffman and security expert ryan morrow. let's start with you, mike. how do you stop this. a guy jumps out of a subway with a knife. somebody else steams over people with in a car. what's going on? >> yeah. the answer and it's unsatisfactorying is you can't stop. going to lock down traffic and search every vehicle? it's not going to happen. you can't minimize this risk down to zero. and, you know, honestly, the french authorities, the security services are very good at what they do. but, this is the world we live in. and, you know, we try to minimize, disrupt and prevent but you are not going to stop everything. brian: ryan, ramadan is over. we saw one in london and about three in england. and we thought, okay, ramadan is over. it will ratchet down. it's not. >> well, there is that spike during ramadan. that's because they believe the reward when you go to paradise is higher if you die in jihad during that time period. these are people who think they are going to cleans

sue mi terry mike baker and former intelligence officer andrew pete.s this morning. we appreciate it you were in north korea in june, met with some north korean officials. what's the caucus there. >> sweden. pete: got it you met with them. what's the rhetoric as they hear from our put. >> kim jong un is bent on continuing this nuclear program. they will do that they will not attack guam or any part of the u.s. territory. they know that's suicidal. pete: you think that ring of prior fire threat is just that. >> they are not suicidal. they are not ideological. preservation is number one goal. they know if they go against the united states in the all out war that's the end of them. pete: we talk about missiles and bombers and things like that what covert operations might they have against this regime. >> right. obviously this is a sensitive topic. what can you say is that we have been gaming this out for years, right? and by doing that you are looking at all your options, cyber interference and cyber attacks to spec ops, covert operations: it's a limited

we went to several entities come and no one would give us the mike, but nate gave us the mike, and as dr. baker said, we brought the dam table. god willing, we're going to make every effort make what we said a reality. it will take eight time, but we have the team and the professional know-how to get this done. this thing that we have already been in the works, people have already called us even. i got a text from a senator who said he had spoken to the governor and the lieutenant governor. when he left, he was impressed with what he saw, and he wants to meet with us in the next 30 days to talk about our project. hopefully that could be happening. i think the main focus is to gear towards the low-hanging fruit, which is dealing with the use, -- use -- youth who are in trouble, and look at the urban centers, d.c. and baltimore, where we have the preponderance of the tam members to talk throughout -- through that, but at the end of the day we want to take the show on the road because we know the prisons are in dire need of our assistance. we want to debunk the issues of homegrown terrorists emana

we went to several entities come and no one would give us the mike, but nate gave us the mike, and as dr. baker said, we brought the dam table. god willing, we're going to make every effort make what we said a reality. it will take eight time, but we have the team and the professional know-how to get this done. this thing that we have already been in the works, people have already called us even. i got a text from a senator who said he had spoken to the governor and the lieutenant governor. when he left, he was impressed with what he saw, and he wants to meet with us in the next 30 days to talk about our project. hopefully that could be happening. i think the main focus is to gear towards the low-hanging fruit, which is dealing with the use -- youth who are in trouble, and look at the urban centers, d.c. and baltimore, where we have the preponderance of the tam members to talk that, but -- through at the end of the day we want to take the show on the road because we know the prisons are in dire need of our assistance. we want to debunk the issues of homegrown terrorists emanating from the prism

the new york times has vice president mike pence denouncing an article over ambitions for 2020. peter biker -- peter bakerrites "the vice president declared his loyalty to the president and announced the new york times piece suggesting he was positioning himself to run for president in 2020 if president trump does not seek a second term." "disgraceful to me my family and the entire team. the allegations are categorically false and represent the latest attempt by the media to divide the administration." they write the article reported a number of republicans appear positioning themselves to run in 2020 mr. president indoors low poll numbers and investigations. the vice president added "whatever fake news may come your way, my entire team will continue to focus our efforts to advance the president's agenda and see him reelected in 2020. any suggestion to the otherwise is laughable and absurd." peter is calling from north carolina. peter is earning less than $30,000 a year. what do you do for a living? caller: i am retired. host: what -- tell us what your message would be to washington on tax reform? onlyr:

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you can bring back james baker, couldn't do anything if they're just going to keep lying every single day. >> with us veteran columnist and msnbc contributor mike barnicle, cold founder of axias. >> van high is here. >> and julie pace is with us. >> she has a scorecard. and lies or not lies. >> i know it not morning and we're not supposed to be debbie downer but it is quite sad. >> it's more than said. there could be legal consequences attached to many of these lies. >> the white house has afourld that donald trump, the president, helped draft the initial and misleading response to the revelations of a meeting between a russian attorney general as hand. >> it was a lie. he said talking about divorces or avocado firms, something the response attributed to donald trump jr. claimed the june 26 meeting was about adoption policy. of was, pris it will offered mig documentsoned informing to income nate opinion opinion. in the days after the forkt trump's reports pent on numerous show that the pes or else the president lied to him and then had jay go you it's chilling be actually plm dismissed the new "washington post" report that he personally dictate