very quickly mike baker really have about 15 seconds.ou are all for that snowden party earned you? >> i am. you know i've never answered a question of 15 seconds .-ellipsis an impossible task. i'm fully on board with the victimless drug crimes. i think the prison reform is essential and absolutely important part i think we are going to go to the mat on this on pardoning snowden that's just me the widow i know. i think if you make the bar, your pardoning somebody because they thought they did what was best for the country, what they thought, then i think we are opening up some issues here. anyway that is just me, would wind up respected certainly has led to reforms in an ongoing seven-year conversation that does not look like were going to the end of that chapter soon put in the meantime it looks like no there's trouble in paradise for progressives and the biden transition team. since the day sleeping joe is made the big uber the lefties have been demanding more from bernie sanders and elizabeth warren get some plum gigs in the biden cabi

and tomorrow night, mike baker. >> maybe she was a spy. >> maybe. >> it becomes his son's strange inheritancee to look at. >> can he decode its past and unlock a fortune? >> it's the equivalent -- for us, as americans -- of owning something that may have been there with george washington. >> wow. >> "wow" is right. >> a small town, an ancient emperor, and a puzzle. >> it was a three-week auction, and nothing happened. >> nothing? no bids? >> you're thinking that "my gosh. this is terrible. oh, it's all out the window."

. >> peter baker, mike barnicle has a question for you. mike? aker what do you figure or hear from your sources about the biden transition team and the level of expertise that they have in trying to deal with this issue about the virus and where it's going, how they're going to get it to different places in the country? what are you hearing from people with the biden campaign about what the lack of access is doing to the progress that they hope to make? >> yeah. either very concerned about that. this is not an easy operation. this is a, literally a military-style operation that requires coordination, requires a lot of thinking and a lot of planning ahead, and the to come in on january 20th at noon and suddenly take this over without any preparation leaves them in one hand tied behind their back to say the least. you have a lot of expertise rushing to join the biden team and eager to help the biden team. especially people frustrated by the trump administration over the last months. public health experts almost given up or wash their hands of an ad

mike memoli joins us and peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times."ake of this situation that played out in mish last night? are we likely to see this in other counties? >> obviously a surprise to a lot of people who weren't paying attention what was happening in wayne county and the idea an election won by 150,000 votes in michigan suddenly could be up in the air. it did raise a lot of questions. i think the fact they quickly reversed themselves showed that there's a lot of pressure on, to not give in to the, you know, these false theories that the president is spreading out there that somehow there was enough widespread fraud to actually overturn the election. it's not the case. no evidence of this whatsoever. even the president's own lawsuits don't offer evidence of widespread fraud to overturn and election yet that partisan vote initially taken last night i think sent the signal this is not over until all canvassers and all of the cert fxdificatio are done and that's why the election process is still going on. >> as each day passes more of the pre

mike barnicle. chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" peter baker.hief of "the atlantic" magazine, jeffrey goldberg. white house correspondent for pbs news hour yamiche alcindor. good to have you all on board. jeffrey goldberg, i'm reading a piece in "the atlantic" about the amount of people who voted for trump and what it says about our country. what do you make of the results so far? >> as this piece by george packer i think there's the one you're referring to says are a bitterly and seemingly permanently divided country. there's two americas, we have another piece by ron brownstein -- acknowledges the old civil war, that the country is split down the middle and one side is not understanding the other side. both sides don't understand each other and that we live in a social media environment in which differences are exasperated. and, you know, it's -- there are a lot of people who simultaneously recognize that there's a high likelihood that joe biden is going to win, and then this uniquely from their perspective uniquely terrible president is going

mike sent it to hormel, thinking they might find their story interesting. he was right. jeff bakerly jumped on this opportunity to talk to them. garvin: jeff baker is a vice president at hormel. jeff: it was a cool enough letter, an inspiring enough letter that the story deserved to be told. garvin: so, hormel sent a crew to los altos to create a video about the group. but that's not all, they wanted to see this story of veterans connecting repeated. hormel is now approaching restaurants across the country, asking them to establish tables of honor in chuck's names reserved for vets once a week to drop in and connect with others. mike: what a great idea to put a table together where people can come and share their stories and share their experiences, and make new relationships, or renew old relationships. garvin: we're not done sharing good news stories with you in this "bay area proud" special. still ahead, a young man uses a big tree to do a good deed. it's about how sometimes, solutions to our problems during these difficult times can be found in the most unusual of places. the s

by one of the preeminent statesman of the day james baker and they say they ruled out rudy giuliani, you can draw your own conclusions. >> yeah. mike it to me this way. just to underscore -- i mean, your reporting tracks what i have been hearing from my sources. this person told me, we'll get you an all you can eat buffet of outrage until how long, until cocaine mitch shuts it down. cocaine mitch is being used in a positive way. it's not intended to be an insult so that makes a lot of sense. let's walk through why that is, because the trump campaign has been using essentially a spaghetti at the wall approach and what's your reporting on it and it's not sticking. >> it's not. when axios a.m. pops shortly, you will see our piece about president trump's last stand against the truth. and what you saw in the briefing room last night, what you have seen in the tweets, the statements, is the president trying to hold back what he now clearly knows is an inevitable tide. he's doing it with untruth after untruth, and the big picture, the long run is that all of this undermines faith and confidence in the system. this election is going to be

baker and harvard kennedy school professor nick burns, former u.s. ambassador to nato. peter, let me ask you about the "times" reporting. according to "the times," mike pompeo joined the military in pushing back, saying this was not the time to take on iran's very substantial military in the closing weeks of this administration barring some precipitating action from iran. >> that's right, exactly, secretary pompeo, vice president pence, general milley, all said this had a risk of escalating into a wider reflect in the final days of the trump administration, one that would ultimately be turned over to a new administration. that's not an ideal way to leave office, of course. the president seemed for the moment to be convinced to stand down. but we'll see, nobody is convinced that's the end of the discussion. we could still see 60 days of conversation about this before the president leaves office. the shake-up at the pentagon in recent days, putting in a new defense secretary literally days before trump leaves office, is leaving people wondering why he's doing that, and precipitating action against iran is one thing he could have had in mind for all thi

baker to get involved in politics to move past the loss of his wife. joe biden took ted kennedy's advice. he went to washington, but as mike barnacle said, every night he would return home on the asella, and he would return home to make sure that nobody else was taking care of his boys. he happened to be the one that read them to sleep at night. he wanted to be the father they would wake up to in the morning. he wanted to be the dad he would play catch with them in the afternoon. and joe biden kept making that train ride every day that he could back home to wilmington, delaware. and willy, as we sit here just past noon and we're seeing celebrations outside the white house, we're seeing celebrations across new york city and across the country, you look at this man who's been counted out so many times, who's been dismissed not only by republicans but dismissed by elites in the democratic party because joe biden after all didn't go to an ivy league school. in fact, he is the first president that we will have that has not gone to an ivy league school since ronald reagan was elected in 1988 and left the white house in 1980 and

mike had not a thing to do with kay's murder. he simply needed money and kay agreed to buy his guns. by now, tips were coming in. >> and this female said it's the bakerer boys did this. >> reporter: the baker boys were brothers who, fairly or not, had developed a reputation as the town's troublemakers. detectives found them. they had solid alibis. then, the next day, another tip. a woman, who implicated her own husband. >> he came home last night the timeframe before the homicide, he grabbed a bunch of stuff, including a knife, and he's been looking for -- for guns so i know he's involved. >> reporter: but the woman's husband was eventually eliminated as a suspect. detectives hoped maybe the stolen guns would lead them to kay's killer. >> and we recovered a lot of firearms that were stolen. just, again, none linked. >> reporter: that just highlighted another aspect of the mystery. kay, remember, collected firearms. had close to 100 valuable guns locked up at his house. yet, the thieves just stole the cheaper ones from the bunker. >> pretty bizarre robbery, to take those guns and not take the far-more valuable collection that kay had. >> agreed. >> re

coronavirus task force as an adviser to mike pence and counter-terrorism and now works with the group republican political alliance for integrity and reform. peter bakerwinning presidential candidates losing presidential candidates and i was on 2000 recount. and i've never seen a president dig in in a way that is so immune from sort of his oneco chamber. fox news pulled away from a kayleigh mcenany briefing and my 4:00 p.m. neighbor neil cavuto on fox said -- do we have the clip, control room? we don't have the clip yet. as soon as we get it i'll show it to our viewers. but it said without any evidence, i cannot air this. i cannot show this to you. chris christie has been saying really since wednesday morning when trump came one this strategy of alleging massive voter fraud on a scale that election -- legal election experts in both parties say just simply does not exist, that if donald trump can't show the data, he can't claim that he won. what do you make of the fact that donald trump doesn't seem to be influenced any more by the voices on fox news, the voices of chris christie, he was probably never particularly swayed by mitt romney or george w. bu

mike, i talked to one of trump's closest confidants yesterday and he was laughing at the fact that donald trump is looking for his james baker. and this confidant of donald trump said he got rid of all of them four years ago. it's laughable. like when hitler invaded russia, stalin's generals couldn't fight them because all of stalin's generals had been purged five years ago. so trump finds himself in his own political battle of stalingrad and he doesn't have any generals around. he doesn't have any james bakers around. he's pushed everybody out of his orbit that had any intelligence, any capabilities, any abilities to actually work on issues like this because all he wanted were yes men and relatives who quite frankly have never been up to the job. >> yeah. joe, you know, continuing that metaphor, it's as if hitler released general rommel toward the end of 1944 with sergeant schultz who knew nothing. >> right. >> but yesterday, yesterday was such a vivid contrast for americans to witness because within the space of two hours, we had joe biden looking like a president and behaving like a president addressing the nation from a