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mike baker is back. welcome back baker. >> welcome back kenny can i say happier?appy new year as a phrase right now. kennedy: does not feel new, it does not feel particularly happy. it's also strange, chaotic and still going downhill. tell me about the distinction pretty how do you decide? you start with a certain category of people and charge them with the greatest crimes first? and what with that group be? >> look, just in the 30,000 foot view, this this meet the definition of domestic terroris terrorism? while the fbi defines it basically as a criminal violent acts. perpetrated by groups, stemming from a desire to make ideological change based on domestic influences, religious, political, social, racial whatever it may be. from a textbook definition, for some of these people that is what this meets. what they will likely do, because there is no real definition statute, for domestic terrorism they're basing a going to throw the entire criminal code at them i think. >> does not mean charge them with a bunch of other stuff? >> yes. look, honestly those people that

we have a retired navy seal here commander, mike baker the former cia covert operations officer. thanks for joining us today. dave, to you first. obviously they're pulling out all the stops to make sure that they can stop anything that might pop up. they're concerned. they obviously rely on chatter or information that hints at something. what do you think? >> i don't know what the intelligence they're receiving. this response is really massive. it's pretty extraordinary to see this type response in the united states. i can see what the they're trying to do as a deterrent. you can obviously protect places that you know exactly what the target is, if you know it's the capitol building or capitol building throughout states. you can establish a perimeter and takes people to do that. but extraordinary to see this in the united states and disheartening. >> neil: it is what it is, mike baker. i wondering when they do get these reports that we're piecing together more about whether last week's attack on the capitol might have had more advanced planning than we earlier thought. what do yo

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mike memoli is in, wellington. peter alexander on the north lawn. "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker, and pbs news hour white house correspondent yaalcindor. this dream of 50 years, including messages he wants to send today and at tomorrow's inauguration. >> andrea, you mentioned it was 21 months ago, if you can believe that, joe biden began a third bid for the white house. we first saw him at that train station, the joseph r. biden jr. rail station where we first got a glimpse of candidate joe biden. of course he wanted to head to washington for this inauguration the same way he headed to washington eight years ago -- 12 years ago, excuse me, as vice president-elect joining president obama on that trip. of course security concerns shelved that plan. but rather poignantly, andrea, we will see the president-elect bidding farewell to delaware today with remarks at the headquarters of the delaware national guard headquarters named after his son, beau biden, who passed away from brain cancer in 2015. then it's on to washington, and we'll begin to see really that break with the trump admi

mike: right. >> it's also, it's the bakers, it's the vineyards -- mike: sure. >> it's the bus drivers that driveemployees. it's the servers. and, remember, we do not have the luxury of working remotely. mike: right. >> that is not an option. mike: well, melba wilson, thank you for your timing thank you for sharing your story. obviously, we will keep you and your colleagues in our prayers and our thoughts and hope that 2021 is a much better year for the proud if people who work in the gate restaurants of this -- great restaurants of this country. >> thank you. mike: tragedy if this texas where a u.s. army drill sergeant has been found dead. what we know about the case so far after the break. ♪ ♪ but not every tomato ends in the same kind of heinz ketchup. because you can't be everyone's favorite ketchup without making a ketchup for everyone. because you can't be everyone's favorite ketchup new projects means you need to hire.gers. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar

mike deaver was very, very close to the reagan's in fact, in baker said to have i'm able to go to the bedroom to greet the reagan's that he's allowed to go into the bathroom with him. that shows you how close mike deaver was. when he's accused of these improprieties he gets indignant and he storms out of the house and he says, if you don't want me i quit. once out of the house the next minute he sheepishly walks back into the house and says, i forgot that my wife drop it off here so i don't have a car. can i borrow nancy's station wagon to get back to the city? so this was a very human moment. there's a guy who indignantly resigned from the campaign and yet at the same moment he recognizes his friendship with nancy would allow him to borrow her station wagon and he sheepishly comes back. i fall kinds of human moments in the book. because again it's important these personalities really shape policy, they shape the direction of this great country. i recognize that each president has an ideological predilections and knows to some degree and help shape the direction you are bullied but it

peter baker, you are following all of this. what are the chances mikeing that crazy for donald trump? my gut is no. >> well, you know, it's hard to say. i don't know what he could do. i honestly don't know what they see as the genuine options. the department of justice has already said that, you know, this louie gohmert lawsuit trying to preemptively order pence to take action was out of bounds. you know, he doesn't really have a role. his role is to open up the box, hand the piece of paper to the senators who will be the tellers, who will read the results outloud and that's it. then josh hawley and the republicans in the house can object. if they get one member of the senate and the house to object, they go their separate ways and vote. these votes are predetermined. we know these votes -- the democratic house is not going to unseat electors for joe biden and we have seen it more than enough republican senators say they wouldn't vote to do that either, we know this is there is a majority in the senate as well. we are going to go through a kabuki dance.

[laughter] david: in the beginning of 2021, mike pompeo looks back and where he sees the challenges for the u.s. jim bakerformer secretary of state, used to say the best job in the u.s. and washington is secretary of state, but a difficult job. is it the best job you have ever had? sec. pompeo: undoubtably. it is a challenging job, but if you have a great team, you can do wonderful things to keep our nation safe. david: as you have now served two point five years as secretary of state and look back on what you have achieved, what are you most proud of as secretary of state? sec. pompeo: we made progress at the state department, creating an ethos, the right people in the right places, built a planning system that will have real value at the state department. the leadership challenge that the secretary of state, a big organization, handing that off to the next is an important one. we have taken on america first, based on strength, realism, respect for other nations and their sovereignty. it is a central understanding, american capacity to do good in the world, do it without putting lots of people in harm's

we also have mike schmidt, of "the new york times," as well as peter baker. joyce, we'll start with you. if you are -- while you are watching, what sort of red flags are you going to see, people that aren't just routine pardons, but people who are defying the norms, people who would offend some americans. >> well, i think what you're talking about, katy, is pardons that are being given for improper reasons. the president's pardon power is broad. he can essentially do almost whatever he would like to do here. but that doesn't mean that pardons can't be given that we would commonly be viewed as abusive. and i think key are pardons given out to politicians who have been convicted of corruption. we've seen this with rod blagojevich, who was released from prison. we would look for that tonight, along with other pardons that are given to people who have engaged in high dollar or serious frauds. for instance, the commutation for a florida businessman who defrauded investors in his real estate development of almost $300 million in investments. these are not people wh

[laughter] ♪ david: in the beginning of 2021, mike pompeo, secretary of state looks back and where he sees the , challenges for the u.s. jim bakerrmer secretary of state, he was in my firm, he used to say the best job in the u.s. and washington is secretary of state. but it is a difficult job. is it the best job you have ever would you sayis it the best job you have ever had? sec. pompeo: undoubtably. it's the privilege of a lifetime. it is a challenging job, but if you have a great team here at the state department like i do, you can do great things to keep america to keep our nation safe. , david: as you have now served two and half years as secretary of state and look back on what you have achieved, what are you most proud of as secretary of state? sec. pompeo: we made progress at the state department, creating an ethos, the right people in the right places, built a planning system that will have real value at the state department. i do not talk about those things enough. but the leadership challenge that the secretary of state, a big organization, handing that off to the next secretary of state is an important one. around th

think the reason the reagan tramp rent worked as a people late jim baker chief of staff and then you have counselor to the president and mike seaver as deputy chief of staff and the three of them worked well together because each of them had specific roles to play for jean baker chief of staff, operator, i made the trains run on time and the paper i talk in the book divvied up the roles to and baker took all the kind of logistical pieces but actually helped him run the white house effectively. he was the keeper of the ideological plane and outrage -- outreach and he would try to make sure that they did not go off the rails. baker was more moderate and seaver did not care about ideology all but he was a more image guy in the reagan image was so important and he was good at making reagan look good so because each of them had specific roles and even though they might have thought they did not step on each other's toes in their specific areas and that's important to other think anything about the tramp rent in this book and "fight house" is the extent to which they distrusted the other so they always stuck together as a group a

mike pence use the 25th amendment to remove the president from office. that vote was mostly symbolic. joining us is bloomberg senior editor stephanie baker. stephanie, mitch mcconnell, according to people familiar with his thinking, would, you know, i am choosing my words carefully, because they did not say he would support impeachment, but he was not against it. stephanie: that is right. it does seem that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has changed his mind. the tide is turning. that report in "the new york times" was confirmed by fox news, that macconnell will not stand in the way of impeachment and is "done" with trump. what that means in practice. is unclear at this. point. you know, after the house vote later today to impeach donald trump, the other issue is how many house republicans will join in that impeachment vote. it looks like there are at least five, possibly more than a dozen that will support the impeachment, the articles of impeachment, and then the unclear thing now is -- when does it move to the senate? it is unlikely that his senate trial could happen until january 20, and how will that play out? how many republi

mike pompeo reflected on his time in office. >> jim baker, somebody i've got to know over the years,say the best job in the u.s. is secretary of state. but it is a difficult job. would you say it is the best job in washington? >> the privilege of a lifetime. it is a challenging job. you can do wonderful things to protect america, keep our nation safe. david: you have served 2.5 years as secretary of state. what would you say you are most proud of having achieved? >> internally, we have made some real progress at the state department. we make sure we had the right people in the right places, a planning system that will have real value as the years go on. the leadership challenge of being secretary of state building out a large organization and handing it off to the next secretary of state is an important one. it is based on restraint and realism and respect for other nations and their sovereignty. it is a central understanding of america capacity to do good in the world and do it without putting lots of people in harm's way, to deliver on the things that matter. david: as you look bac

] david: in the beginning of 2021, as mike pompeo, secretary of state, gets ready to step down, he looks back to where he sees the challenges for the u.s. jim baker, former secretary of state, someone i have gotten to know over the years, he was in my firm. he used to say the best job in the united states, best job in washington was secretary of state, but it was a difficult job. would you say it is the best job in washington, the best job you have ever had? sec. pompeo: undoubtably. it's the privilege of a lifetime. it is a challenging job, but if you have a great team at the state department like i do, you can do wonderful things to protect america and to keep our nation safe. david: as you have now served 2.5 years as secretary of state and look back on what you have achieved, what are you most proud of as secretary of state? sec. pompeo: internally here, i think we have made some real progress at the state department. we created anything for our team, we made sure we had the right -- created an ethos for our team, we made sure we had the right people in the right places, built a planning system that will have real value at the state departmen

mike pompeo reflected on his time in office. >> jim baker, former secretary of state, he was in my firm say the best job in the u.s. and in washington is secretary of state. but it is a difficult job. you say it is the best job you have ever had? mike: undoubtedly it is the privilege of a lifetime. and it is a challenging job, but one that if you have a great time here like i do, you can do wonderful things to protect america and keep our nation safe. david: as you have now served about a little more than 2.5 years as secretary of state and you look back on what you have achieved, what would you say you are most proud of having achieved as secretary of state? mike: internally we have made real progress at the state department. we created an ethos for our team . we had the right people in the right places. we built out a planning system here that i think will have real value as the years go on here at the state department. i do not talk about those things enough, but the leadership challenge of building out a big organization and handing that off to the next secretary of state is an impo

about a confrontation of ronald reagan's house that led to mike being accused of proprieties he is some very close to the reagan and tim baker said to him i'm able to go to the bedroom and he's allowed to go into the bathroom about, that's how close he is and when he's accused of these priorities, he gets addicted and storms out of the house and says if you don't want me i quit, and the next minute he sheepishly walks back into the house and says i forgot my wife drop me off, i don't have a car, can i borrow nancy's station wagon to get back into the city is the human moment a guy who resigned from the campaign and at the same moment he recognizes his friendship with nancy would allow him to borrow her station wagon and she sheepishly comes back. i have all kinds of human moments in the book because it is important that the personality really shapes policy in the direction of this great country and i recognize that each president has ideological and away to some degree they help shape the direction you are going but also what they're trying to accomplish and what their concerns are and the obama administration there is a sto

mike pence interview. thank you so much for joining us tonight, senator marco rubio, wall street journalist greg baker, nextortant stuff and he writes it all himself. here is tucker now. if ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," it's weird to say it but this is the last day of the trump administration. if you supported donald trump come of the sad thing to face after four years. on the other hand if you didn't support a donald trump, if you are one the of the many of our professional class who made hating donald trump a center of your life, this is got to be a pretty good day for you -- you won. your party now has control of everything. tomorrow afternoon, donald trump will be gone for good, you got exactly what you wanted. you should be thrilled about that, you want to be celebrating, but they are not celebrating. that's a remarkable

mike pence? >> he's welcome. >> and with that, let's bring in our leadoff guests on this friday night, susan page, veteran journalist best selling author, peter baker chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and jon meacham, pulitzer prize winning author, presidential historian. he's professor on the american presidency at vanderbilt, unofficial adviser to the president-elect, and once again relevant to this conversation, both peter and john are among the authors of the book "impeachment: an american history." here we are again. well, susan, you get the big starting question tonight. the task of summing up as a long-time washingtonoian, as a citizen of this country how it felt to watch what transpired in the capitol this week and further, and this may call for speculation. what's the real chance this guy not serving out his term? >> you know, i've covered six presidents. i've seen assassination attempts, launches of war, disputed elections, impeachments, two of them already, but i've never seen anything as shocking as what we saw on wednesday. marauders rushing through the congress, some of them armed carrying ties apparently to tak

mike: thank you so much. for more issues like this bring in panel, democratic strategist richard goodstein and host of wsj at large in fox business jerry bakerrry, let's start with you, is the chicago teachers union misreading this if they go out on strike? >> yes, yes. it's the simple answer. they talk about the science. the science is very clear. the risk to teachers or to the students that they teach of catching coronavirus or getting serious form is minuscule. mike, there's a much more serious problem, much more serious objection than what the teachers union is saying there. they are claiming as they negotiate with chicago city, the school board, that they need to be treated as essential workers, that they should, in other words, receive as essential workers are receiving the vaccine, get a vaccine before they go back to schools to teach because they are essential. mike: right. >> essential workers have been working. hospital workers, law enforcement, emergency first responsers, grocery store workers, bus drivers, transit workers. they haven't been sitting at home refusing to work because of the risk. they've had to do it. chicago teache

mike pence? >> he's welcome. >> and with that let's bring in our lead off guests on this friday night, susan page, veteran journalist, best selling author, usa today washington bureau chief. peter bakerchief white house correspondent for "the new york times." and john meacham, pulitzer prizewinning author, the professor on the american presidency at vanderbilt, unofficial advisor to the president-elect, and once again relevant to this conversation both peter and john are among the authors of the book, "impeachment and american history." here we are again. well, susan, you get the big starting question tonight, the task of summing up as a long time washingtonian, as a citizen of this country how it felt to watch what transpired in the capitol this week. and further, and this may call for speculation, what's the real chance this guy not serving out his term? >> you know, i've covered six presidents. i've seen assassination attempts, launches of war, disputed elections, impeachments two of them already. but i've never seen anything as shocking as what we saw on wednesday. marauders rushing through the congress, some of them armed carrying ties apparently to take hostages while members o

mike pence." so i think he's mad at the president, like a lot of people are. >> i'm never mad at you, my friend. come see me soon. peter bakert. >> always. >>> much it could be another reason you have to wait even longer to get a covid vaccine next. vaccine next new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. [♪♪] life is busy, and sometimes odors can sneak up on you. for a convenient life hack. try febreze unstopables fabric refresher. with 2 times the scent power of regular febreze, unstopables fabric finds, neutralizes and eliminates tough odors trapped in hard-to-wash fabrics, like couches or smelly sports equipment; leaving an irresistibly fresh scent. and for a tropical burst of freshness, try new paradise scent. stop sneaky odors from lingering in your home, with febreze unstopables. >>> here's the latest facts on the coronavirus pandemic. the u.s. passed 23 million cases and may face

governor baker called on the former president to step down after the violent attack on the nation's capitol and supported invoking the 25th amendment. once former vice president mikersue the amendment, the governor responded in part, impeachment is the only one that's left. members of a pro-trump faction of the massachusetts gop are claiming baker needs to be called out for siding with the democrats with some calling on baker to retract his support of impeachment. adam lange, a cape cod republican who supports trump said in part, quote, we need to unite our republican party. and a major reason we are divided is charlie baker. the message we are sending is we are republicans behind donald trump. this is a cult. . >> i can see, charlie, why they would want to take down charlie baker. his approval rating in massachusetts. his approval rating plummeted to 72% in the bay state. he's actually the most popular governor, one of the most popular governors in america. and these jacks want to take him out. he's the only reason republicans have any power in that state. so of course they're so stupid they're attacking him. >> no. and you notice this cult-like behavior is sprea

baker, msnbc political analyst also with us. also joining us, "washington post" contributing columnist and msnbc contributor, former democratic congresswoman and olivia troye ands former coronavirus adviser to vice president mike pence and now contributor to the anti-trumpism group defending democracy together. matt, i want to start with you and you peter as well on the briefing that just wrapped up from the dc u.s. attorney. some stunning words that we're not used to hearing even after the most disturbing acts of violence in this country, matt. >> look, the dc u.s. attorney is intimating he's really coming after the people who participated. he talked about how a huge number of folks who they have on their radar, they brought in many folks. some of whom have been charged with misdemeanors, as mentioned but all these specific units looking to upgrade to sedition. i think they have a lot of questions to answer for maybe their own failure to detect and act on this in advance to prevent the violence that occurred but certainly do see an intent on bringing justice inside and trespassing that is more violent. >> peter baker, former acting fbi director andrew mccabe said on cnn that, raised some questions about who w

governor charlie baker also a republican echoed that sentiment saying he believes that the president should step down and the orderly transition of power should be led by vice president mike pence. >> correct. >> here's a take yesterday from former white house chief of staff john kelly. >> the cabinet should meet and have a discussion. i don't think it will happen, but i think the cabinet should meet and discuss this because the behavior yesterday and in the weeks and months before that has been outrageous from the president and what happened on capitol hill yesterday is a direct result of his, you know, poisoning the minds of people with the lies and the fraud. >> if you were in the cabinet right now, would you vote to remove him from office? >> yes. i would. >> this is -- there's no other option. >> yeah. >> there's no other option. anybody with the power to do something about this who doesn't do the right thing, there's no other option. he will commit more crimes. he will pardon criminals. he will do things that hurt our democracy. what more do you need? >> so willie, i am a southern baptist. so i believe in death bed conversions. >> take it. >> that being said, devos,