mike barnicle is going to save you this time from me. mike?lex, i can recall that your first trip through the city of boston as a member of the new york yankees. you sought out, called, and spoke with the late jack welch about business opportunities and business philosophy. and i know that you've been very successful in business. so what your businesses like now? what are your employees like? how are they doing, and how are you doing treating them? >> yeah, it's a great question. thanks for asking, mike. look, in our portfolio, a-rod corp., we own about 25 different companies and i think it's broken up into three tiers. we have a third that are struggling mightily with our thousands of apartment units. unfortunately people cannot -- a lot of them cannot pay their rent. the middle are just kind of floating through. and then the other ones are striving and striving like they never have before. but one of the things that jennifer and i both wanted to do was we reached out and we kind of sent everybody home probably about a week and a half early.

. >> mike barnicle, death, death is that what you're hearing from some of the people -- >> i'm sorry, what, nicolle? >> he talked about it's not life or death but death and death. you go out to your job and risk your life or don't work and risk your life. >> nicolle, absolutely. look, inequity has always been part of the dna of the united states of america. it can't be denied. but now it jumps off the sidewalk at you. when you look at the people carrying the load for this virus, the paramedics, the emts, if you're a firefighter you go down the street and see the blaze, if you're a police officer you know who the felon is. you don't see this disease. you can go through neighborhoods, poor neighborhoods and see a variety of stores, hair salons and you know they're not coming back. they're not coming back from not a whole lot, but they're not coming back from that. yesterday oddly enough i was at a local hospital here in boston. i brought a person in for infusion treatments. while the person was undergoing the infusion treatment i was taking a walk around the facility and i bumped into a

still with us, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle.bc world news america katty kay. and joining the correspondent, white house correspondent for the "new york times," peter baker. pulitzer prize-winning columnist and associated editor of the "washington post" and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. so the president's statements last night has made him a mockery around the world. an international joke. medical experts are once again forced to push back hard against his latest, crazy suggestions for treating the coronavirus. one of which included injecting people with disinfectant. the president's idea, all of them, all of the ideas, were rejected by the experts in the briefing room with him. it came after a homeland security official had to spend the day creating research and presented the research at the podium, that found disinfectants, heat and humidity, killed the virus on surfaces and in the air. yes. here is how much of it played out. >> so supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very po

and msnbc contributor mike barnicle joins us. on a day where the u.s. once again recorded its highest number of confirmed cases and deaths from coronavirus, the white house yesterday laid out in stark terms what lies ahead. the nation's top scientists predict that even with the current social distancing guidelines in place, the u.s. could see up to 240,000 deaths. and that's if the measures don't stay in place, the death toll could actually be higher. the next few weeks we are told will be the very worst. >> i want every american to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead. we're going to go through a very tough two weeks. and then hopefully, as the experts are predicting, as i think a lot of us are predicting after having studied it so hard, you're going to start seeing some real light at the end of the tunnel. but this is going to be a very painful, very, very painful two weeks. >> in the next several days to a week or so we're going to continue to see things go up. we cannot be discouraged by that. because the mitigation is actually working and w

joining the conversation we have msnbc mike barnicle. and, just to sort of bring us up to speed, the u.s. recorded the world's highest number of deaths from the coronavirus for a single day, according to nbc news yesterday. and the second highest number of newly confirmed cases. we are now at more than 400,000 cases in nearly 13,000 deaths. >> all right. can -- >> we are number one in a way that we don't want to be. >> can we keep that up right now? as we look at this, mike barnicle, 400,000 total cases. 12,893 deaths. more americans dying of this pandemic than died on 9/11, the iraq war, the afghanistan war over the past 20 years. i mean, it's extraordinary. and, yet, on -- on january the 22nd the president was asked in davos, let's keep these numbers up, whether he was worried about a pandemic coming. and he said, no, it's totally under control, it's only one person. and then a month later on february the 26th almost a full month after navorro warned the president, after azar warrant president, a month and a half after the intel commun

if i say so, it is world war iii. >> mike barnicle is with us. rc. >> hey, mike. >> marc, if anybody is out there who did not believe coming into this situation that there are at least two americas, the virus casualty rate in minority communities would certainly point that out. so going forward, given the catastrophic attack the virus has made on minority communities in the united states, what has to be done -- what can realistically be done in the immediate future -- not long term -- immediate future about access to health care, access to health insurance in these minority communities. >> let me frame it both ways. so the short -- we've got to make sure that testing is going to be universally and equitiably available, and that treatment, medicines, when they were designed, are covered, and finally a vaccine that is universally and equitiably available and not some people in the front of the train and others in the caboose. that's the short run. going forward on access, number one, i think those states that have not expanded medicaid need to do so

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with what is an international problem, because the virus knows no borders. >> madam secretary, mike barnicleus and has a question for you. mike. >> madam secretary, eventually this administration will come to its conclusion, hopefully sooner rather than later. had that occurs r wh, what are first few steps that the next president of the united states must take in order to heal the world around us? >> well, there's no question that the united states needs to operate with other countries. president clinton said it first that we were the indispensable nation i just said it so often it became identified with me. but there's nothing that says alone. we need to be partners. and we can't operate in the 21st century without partners. because, as i said, the virus knows no borders. climate change knows no borders. nuclear proliferation and all the issues that are out there, and we have to repair our relationship with other countries. americans don't like the word multilateralism, it has too many syllables and ends in an ism, but it's just a partnership and we need to do something to refurbish the var

i'm not going to order them to violate rules that are designed to protect their own health. >> mike barnicle of the united states is the commander in chief. from a second lieutenant all the way up to the commander in chief, you are responsible for the safety of your troops. a couple of weeks ago, the superintendent at west point ordered all of the west point cadets home for safety reasons, in order to care for them. to make sure they were out of a petri dish at west point and the coronavirus threat. the president of the united states, donald trump, has just ordered all of these troops from various parts of this country to return to west point so he can have an audience for a commencement address he is scheduled to deliver. what are your thoughts on that? >> mike, you couldn't imagine anything more completely contrary to the military ethos. i'm an armed services member. i got a kid in the military. they have a motto, officers eat last. you take care of your troops before you take care of the folks at the top. this president is, this is about me, and who care about you. that's why he is callin

mike barnicle, those numbers tell the story as we leave those up.all want to go to a baseball game. we'd much rather have our kids in school with their teachesers and friends. we'd like to support our restaurants by filling up their dieing rooms. we'd all like to go back to work and see each other in person. we'd like to go back to our jobs if we've been laid off in this country. but americans understand because they are listening to the doctors and because they are smart, they understand the risks of doing any of those things without further testing. >> yes to all of those things, willie. and, as you just noted, the governors in several states are the leaders. here in massachusetts charlie baker, governor baker, he steps up every day, as does governor cuomo, as did to the governors michigan, california, ohio, they step up every day with, guess what? hard, tough to hear information, and factual information that they provide the public. people filled with anxiety and fear about the virus, they know they have more common sense thaent leaders of ththan

. >> general, mike barnicle has a question for you. mike?try needs you. we appreciate it. secondly, the question. what are your biggest daily logistical challenges, and what shortages, if any, do you have to deal with on a daily basis? >> yeah, thanks, mike. one of the lessons learned from so many military campaigns. at the end of the day it comes down to logistics. this is no different than what we're facing. when we were looking at the covid game plan and decided we were going to change what we were doing on the "comfort" and go from non-covid to accepting any patients of that high trauma, high urgency care that we actually needed different equipment. so we found we needed pressure suits in order to do surgery for a high-end trauma case. you need a pressure suit if you might have a covid patient. so we found pressure suits. there were none available in the new york city area, but we found them down in virginia and flew them up in a helicopter and had them there in a matter of hours. those are the types of things we're doing logistics on. f