i'm also going to bring in boston globe reporter mike bello. mike, what is your sense of the reaction so far in boston? >> well i think you know, there's a sense of relief. iç6c this verdict. this event was calamitous for the city. i think a number of people felt he should have gotten the death penalty. there was a real division out there. i think among the jurors you clearly saw that the prosecution proved its case. the judge thanked them for their service. and there's a small bunch of protesters outside the courthouse, protesting against the death penalty. but so far we're at the finish line where a lot of people are just expressing a sense of relief that it's over. and many of them saying that dzhokhar tsarnaev got what he deserved. >> and mike from your view, have residents been following the trial very closely on a daily basis, or now that it was in this penalty phase, people were just going to wait to hear this final answer today? >> i think people were following the fir partst part of the trial. i think the second part, people were just w

let's bring in another, "the boston globe's" mike bello has been with us on and off throughout this conversation. mike, boston has been on an emotional roller coaster through this situation. perhaps one of the greatest lows in boston history and some of the most powerful moments of rejuvenation, of civic rejuvenation throughout this. on this day, with this man sentenced to death, how is boston doing today? >> well, i think among residents, there's a sense of relief, that at least the trial is over. the jury has rendered its decision. i think there's probably division over whether he deserved the death penalty. this jury certainly felt he did, finding him responsible for the deaths of lindsay lui and martin richard. and the course where the bombings occurred, a number of people are talking high emotion there. in watertown where the shootout occurred, the boston marathon bombers and a few slides of bullets went and tamerlan ended up dying. people there have breathed a sigh of relief. there are still bullet holes from the shootout there, in fact. >> mike, let me ask you. are you surprised at all by

joining me now, boston globe assistant metro editor mike bello. about, obviously, that's a stunning thing for many people to hear as this is about the impact the crime and ultimately the conviction of dzhokhar tsarnaev had had on these survivors. >> you know it's really interesting. it's a very somber-faced jury today that heard from judge o'tool and these instructions lasted more than an hour and talked about the aggravating factors, the aggravating factors being there were 17 of them looking at the maliciousness of the attack the terror bombing, the damage and carnage to innocent young victims. there's also these mitigating factors that was talked about in terms of the defense saying that dzhokhar was remorseful that he was a young lad, that he was under the sway of his brother, that he was influenced by this jihadist culture in russia that his mother was very intellectual and also swayed him towards a jihad culture. >> you mentioned some of those witnesses were family members, his mother and also the last witness by the defense team was sister