mike binger? >> you know, when i look at jcpenney. yeah.fishing is tough and it takes patience. we talked about this stock a couple months ago. it was $7. it's just a little below that right now. but i think like your previous guest said. jcpenney is following the classic playbook turnaround stock. what you need to dop in the process. they made comps positive, changed management, brought back coupons and promotions, customers love. they have $2 billion in liquidity. we'll see was the cash flow looks like. my guess is that's going to take a little longer to turn positive, but all in all, they're following the playbook and i think this is not a one quarter, two month turnaround. i think it's more of a one to two-year-type turnaround. >> you need conviction. mike, it's been tough owning jcpenney and appreciate you comen on here, but what is it you gee not to belittle the point in jcp making you hang on? >> comps weren't went positive. that's very good. the ceo came out and said, look, our fourth quarter is living up to its expectations. a lot